Mafia #47 "Ghost Hunters"

Good job on getting CJ! I really had no inkling as to what position he had, prob due to his lack of participation.
It stinks that we lost Fire, but I am surprised that she turned out to be innocent. I really thought I had her pegged. I guess not knowing her playing style, bit me in the butt!
I am equally surprised at John's late vote switch...Rich's switch is interesting as well; altho I agree with it, his reasoning or lack of is a concern.

Right now I would certainly say Lucky takes the cake. I vote to take the sould of Lucky. It really is a no brainer and I cannot help to agree that his erratic behavior is extremely suspicious and definiately anti-town...

Right now I need coffeee and a shower...more later when my head is clearer.
 
Sorry but I really don't get the whole lucky as the murderer thing. Why would the murderer be calling that much attention to themselves? I could see Lucky as a decoy but the more I think about it I don't really believe that either. If Lucky was a comm evil someone surely would have slapped him by now. I think he is simply a misguided townie.

I still can't let go of the fact that Ogre switched his vote to a singleton on night 1 and he has been high on my suspect list for a while now. So with that...

I vote to take the soul of Ogre
 
[AC] RICKETS;1854024 said:
Sorry but I really don't get the whole lucky as the murderer thing. Why would the murderer be calling that much attention to themselves? I could see Lucky as a decoy but the more I think about it I don't really believe that either. If Lucky was a comm evil someone surely would have slapped him by now. I think he is simply a misguided townie.

I still can't let go of the fact that Ogre switched his vote to a singleton on night 1 and he has been high on my suspect list for a while now. So with that...

I vote to take the soul of Ogre


I was thinking about that myself late last night. I came to a new conclusion.

Maybe I am wrong about Lucky. Maybe he isn't the murderer, maybe you are Rickets.

John jumps last second to Fire, a person you're sitting on. An innocent you're sitting on and you don't question his motive for the jump? Or even call him out on it?

Ogre has done nothing IMO except a misguided Day 1 vote, think most of us are guilty of that.

Lets see how this can work.

Team starts out as Rickets,JL. They turn CJ.

Day 1 you and JL both vote DD.
Day 2 you both vote Fire and tell CJ to vote Lucky.

I'm thinking Lucky was your turn and the reason you saved him. Having CJ vote him was a distancing tactic for future use if CJ was found out to have been turned by the GHs.



How close am I? Great plan both being on the same person 2 days in a row. Mafia usually won't do that so its an easy thing to overlook. Even if one gets taken out the other wouldn't be looked at as closely because of the pattern. But I think its been blown.

I retract my vote for Lucky he can't be the murderer.

I vote to take the soul of Rickets

John wouldn't make the move he did if the murderer.

A team of Rickets and JL I'm almost positive of being. Lucky as a turn is a possibility but not definite. I don't really see a reason for them to have saved Lucky unless he was a turn nominee. I don't think they expected Rich to jump to Lucky like he did and got forced into a situation with little time to react.
 
How exactly did I save Lucky? Yes JL made a switch late in the game but he has explained it and it makes sense.

I agree with you that Ogre hasn't done much except be misguided. Very similar to what CJ was doing. I feel that the evils are sitting back and watching us take each other out. Notice I'm not too worried about your vote for me.

You sticking up for your boss could really backfire on you, Ice.
 
Wow good read. I truly have no idea right now. I thought for sure that firedancer was the baddie.

ORge seems to be distancing away from the town. They haven't said much, seems their just sitting back and waiting for the town to burn. After looking at last games, and how much ogre posted, and they gave no reason as to why the low post count, it seems he changed his play style, hmmmm to fit a new role?
 
[AC] RICKETS;1854090 said:
How exactly did I save Lucky? Yes JL made a switch late in the game but he has explained it and it makes sense.

I agree with you that Ogre hasn't done much except be misguided. Very similar to what CJ was doing. I feel that the evils are sitting back and watching us take each other out. Notice I'm not too worried about your vote for me.

You sticking up for your boss could really backfire on you, Ice.

Not saying you saved Lucky. The you was a collective of your team. Funny that with all the pointing at Lucky,even by you, that JLs explanation now seems plausible.
 
Not saying you saved Lucky. The you was a collective of your team. Funny that with all the pointing at Lucky,even by you, that JLs explanation now seems plausible.

I explained myself and why I think Lucky is innocent. What's funny to me is you changed your mind on Lucky and are now going after me for it. I'm not the one who voted for Lucky. You did. I'm apparently not the only one who thinks JL is telling the truth.
 
[AC] RICKETS;1854101 said:
I explained myself and why I think Lucky is innocent. What's funny to me is you changed your mind on Lucky and are now going after me for it. I'm not the one who voted for Lucky. You did. I'm apparently not the only one who thinks JL is telling the truth.


The only thought that changed on Lucky is the murder aspect. I still think you guys grabbed him thus he is evil. My vote for Lucky was right after night fall before things really started to click.
 
[AC] RICKETS;1854024 said:
Sorry but I really don't get the whole lucky as the murderer thing. Why would the murderer be calling that much attention to themselves? I could see Lucky as a decoy but the more I think about it I don't really believe that either. If Lucky was a comm evil someone surely would have slapped him by now. I think he is simply a misguided townie.

I still can't let go of the fact that Ogre switched his vote to a singleton on night 1 and he has been high on my suspect list for a while now. So with that...

I vote to take the soul of Ogre

Not sure, but this would be the first time Lucky has been scum so I could easily see him get in over his head in terms of posting. He doesn't have the experience to play the role, so I think if he was the murderer he wouldn't act any different.

And I definitely wouldn't rely on the fact that his team would be calming him down. I always think that guessing what the other team is doing is dangerous. Too many assumptions.

I was thinking about that myself late last night. I came to a new conclusion.

Maybe I am wrong about Lucky. Maybe he isn't the murderer, maybe you are Rickets.

John jumps last second to Fire, a person you're sitting on. An innocent you're sitting on and you don't question his motive for the jump? Or even call him out on it?

Ogre has done nothing IMO except a misguided Day 1 vote, think most of us are guilty of that.

Lets see how this can work.

Team starts out as Rickets,JL. They turn CJ.

Day 1 you and JL both vote DD.
Day 2 you both vote Fire and tell CJ to vote Lucky.

I'm thinking Lucky was your turn and the reason you saved him. Having CJ vote him was a distancing tactic for future use if CJ was found out to have been turned by the GHs.



How close am I? Great plan both being on the same person 2 days in a row. Mafia usually won't do that so its an easy thing to overlook. Even if one gets taken out the other wouldn't be looked at as closely because of the pattern. But I think its been blown.

I retract my vote for Lucky he can't be the murderer.

I vote to take the soul of Rickets

John wouldn't make the move he did if the murderer.

A team of Rickets and JL I'm almost positive of being. Lucky as a turn is a possibility but not definite. I don't really see a reason for them to have saved Lucky unless he was a turn nominee. I don't think they expected Rich to jump to Lucky like he did and got forced into a situation with little time to react.

I don't know. Getting Lucky would be very very risky with all the heat on him. If I were mafia I would think Lucky would for sure be a goner today so if he is scum I'm thinking he had to be on the original team as CJ was the fnight one turn and turning him last night would be a lost cause.

Luckily, tonight's turn is only 50/50, but that will make it harder for the townies to figure out the numbers of the opposing team. Best case scenario we are up against 3, with 6 townies including all of GH's and a doc. Lynching an innocent with the turn going through makes it 5-4 troubled souls. Rules say that the GH's and Dr. have to be eliminated for the scum side to win so game won't be over, hopefully, but we would be at a HUGE disadvantage. But if the vial changed an innocent to the other team we wouldn't know what the numbers are. I am hoping it wasn't a GH at least if it did end up turning an innocent. That would put the numbers for the troubled souls up one more for the night and they'd be one step closer to winning.

I'm doubting my lucky vote, still because I could have sworn him and Fire were a team. And with how the votes played out last night with CJ voting Lucky, I can't really trust it as a distancing tactic. Cj's vote was the third vote, which kept him tied with Fire before JL and Rich changed. I think Ice's first scenario (JL, Lucky, CJ) is more plausible than his current one (Rickets, CJ, Lucky) only because I just don't think someone would choose lucky as a turn last night. In my mind Lucky either is the murderer or he is an innocent.

But JL's vote switch is still nagging at me. I don't see what he saw in fire that made him switch. As far as I can tell he only mentioned her name once yesterday before voting. And that post was directed at Lucky. I want more reasoning as to why exactly he decided that finishing off Fire was a better choice than making it a tree way tie with Noodles. So far john has started and ended the voting of an innocent. Coincidence? I'm not sure at this point.
 
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