Mafia #48 - Blarney Castle

[cjtabares]

This post by cj seems to want to get Ice back on me. Ice came back with some common sense.

Odd that Ice was hit and not Rich. It is also odd that cj, knowing that someone could have been turned wants to distrust me, but is okay with trusting rich. If anything it looks like cj, who has not had much input is attempting to put some distrust between rich and me.

I am not sure if I am making too big of a deal about it or not. It kinda slipped by, I really thought it was over. The more I think about that post and when it happened, the more I am bothered by it.

well my post was for me to understand the rules i was not trying to get anyone on you sorry if it looks that way

My votes on day one was wyo and on day 2 was DD i dont see how voting off 2 of my fellow evils and leaving me as the only evil left making sence?

I was leaning opi innecent so i dont have much of a case on her sorry but since i know it is not me

I vote to lynch Opi

 

[johnlarson66]

well my post was for me to understand the rules i was not trying to get anyone on you sorry if it looks that way

My votes on day one was wyo and on day 2 was DD i dont see how voting off 2 of my fellow evils and leaving me as the only evil left making sence?

I was leaning opi innecent so i dont have much of a case on her sorry but since i know it is not me

I vote to lynch Opi

cj, what I find troublesome is that in the same post you point out that the bartender could be turned, you don't point out that rich could have been turned. As a matter of fact, you post that we can still trust him. When in realality, either of us could have been turned.

The votes on or not on DD, don't mean anything. I voted for jpap and not DD, I did not think she was evil and just don't see her missing placing the hits. It has also been esatablished that DD was the lone evil. So your vote on DD, when jpap looked liked he was evil, makes perfect sense.

I did not have Opi leaning innocent am suprised you did. Really, who has been your suspects?

 

[rich311k]

Well that went as predicted.

I do wonder, if John was turned it was at the same time he gave the beer to Jpap. It is possible but I don think so. That still means either Opi or Cj are evil as we know we have one original left regardless if there was a turn or not.

Opi and CJ are also both good players they had us going last game, they played evil well.

I see CJ as more conniving and the risk of not putting in a hit seems to suit him better, of course Opi went out of her way to tell us how anal she is, which got me thinking. I dont see her giving up a kill though. Hmm.

 

[cjtabares]

well to tell the truth i didnt think the shamrock could be used on rick or jpapp sorry, but i guess if it was random maybe dawg would put them in. I did have a post where i said what i thought about everyone that was left in the game i will look back and try and find it and quote it.

 

[cjtabares]

No offense taken opi. I have been busy and not around a lot but i would not forget the hit twice.
Ok so heres what i think

I agree with Ice where i dont think Opi would miss a hit twice but i was team mates with both of them last game and Ice enjoys being evil more then being an innocent. If there were 2 evils right now i would not put it past Ice to come up with something like this, but seeing that i feel there is only 1 evil right now i dont see why he would protected Opi like he did in post 186. So because of Ice vote history and the fact i dont think Opi would forget about the hits i would put then on the innocent side right now.




I dont like this post by Rich it seems like he is saying he is the other clansman but why would he say this with no real heat on him it just draws attention, I understand why Jpap would tell everyone but not Rich. So i would like to hear Richs reasoning for (if i am right) hinting that he is the other clansman

Like Opi said Lucky dose not seem to be Luck in this game but is seems like no one is really in this game, a lot of uncharacteristic things going on so idk. I dont really see anything else that screams evil to me

And for right now i feel JL is telling the truth so he is off my list.

So my vote will most likely be for Rich if JL dose not somehow confirm what Rich is saying or if Rich can convince me i am wrong.

Well here was my list, i now know some of what i said was wrong and john did confirm rich was the other clan.

 

[rich311k]

Well here was my list, i now know some of what i said was wrong and john did confirm rich was the other clan.

I hope so, you have everyone who is left as innocent, except me, and I am.

 

[johnlarson66]

well it could have gone to the bartender right, so we could have 2 evils and only truly know rich is not one of them right? So if JL was the turn would he now be communicating with both sides? Just trying to think things out

Could have gone to any of us. We won't know till the game ends. I'm still hoping it either failed or is a double vote. Odds are with us that it ended up not hurting us.

I think I posted this before. I was just confirmed as the bartender and allowed to talk to rich outside the thread.

Rich had confirmed this.

Random is that, random. Rich has just as much chance as I had as getting a shamrock. Which is the same for everyone else still playing.

I never saw you throw out any other suspects or ideas of anyone else that could have been turned. It seems to me that you were (and are) to build mistrust between Rich and I. I am guessing that is why Ice was hit and Rich wasn't. I also never saw you respond or even acknowledge Ice's response that it was random. I think this slipped by because we all thought it had to be sploke and the game would be over.

 

[johnlarson66]

Well here was my list, i now know some of what i said was wrong and john did confirm rich was the other clan.

I hope so, you have everyone who is left as innocent, except me, and I am.

jpap confirmed that rich was his partner. I gave the green beer to jpap and because of the order of events, I was allowed to talk with rich. rich confirmed that I was the bartender.

 

[johnlarson66]

Well that went as predicted.

I do wonder, if John was turned it was at the same time he gave the beer to Jpap. It is possible but I don think so. That still means either Opi or Cj are evil as we know we have one original left regardless if there was a turn or not.

Opi and CJ are also both good players they had us going last game, they played evil well.

I see CJ as more conniving and the risk of not putting in a hit seems to suit him better, of course Opi went out of her way to tell us how anal she is, which got me thinking. I dont see her giving up a kill though. Hmm.

If I "was turned it was at the same time he gave the beer to Jpap", I would not have given it to jpap. I would have killed an innocent with it.

 

[rich311k]

In case I get delayed, my father in law is in the hospital. Does not sound like we will be visiting very long, so I should be home, but you never know.

I vote to lynch cj.