MAFIA #5 The Play.....

[IceH2O]

While I have a little bit of time let me say this:

I have skimmed the thread from my last appearance,thanks guys for keeping it short lol, and don't see any other stand outs besides my top 3.

I'm keeping my vote as is and hope I get home tonight soon enough for a quick read and final vote.

A few observations:

Coler is posting as he did in all his "innocent roles" from prior games. I trust him to be innocent. Hope he didn't learn a trick or 2 from last game.


Hooked played a great mafia role last game playing the quiet newbie. Finally he fell in and played as an innocent. Is he starting earlier this game now that he is comfortable? He is jumping on people pretty quick and hard for a 1st day IMO. Leaning innocent but watching carefully.

Ogre same game as always. Cool collected and full of info. Can be your best friend or worst enemy. Always cautious with his votes, so far no reason to consider him mafia but a watchful eye is always needed.

 

[Coler]

OK, I have read until my eyes are blurry,I still see no other person to vote for at this point, except jo, whether hes innocent or not, I feel like he told on himself, ..thats me feeling, i am gonna stick it out, ..

I still have pause for coler, only because he is a good player, .no other reason, his posts have been pretty sound for the most part, and hes been very helpful so far in this game

This quote makes me uneasy about judgemax.

a) joander is the easiest pick for a lynch if you don't try and think a little more about other people. If you do exercise the mind a bit there are a few other people for whom a case can be made.

b) I've named judgemax as top of my list of mafia for day one, twice at least. I don't think this makes me very helpful in her eyes.

I'm not really being picked out by anyone despite being more vocal early in this game than in any game I've played so far. Joander earlier had a go but that vote was withdrawn, which makes me think I'll be removed tonight, in case that bears on the doctor's thinking (make your own decisions doctor, this is not a cry for help - give me the meds only if you think it is the right thing to do). I think there are clearly others who have also put them at risk by their forthright posting, if they arn't actually mafia.

 

[clown-lover]

Mark wakes up to the still of the dawn with just a few brave birds chirping in the trees. His cat coiled around his feet eagerly awaiting some scratching or petting attention.

He slowly rises from bed as his joints are getting old, grabs his robe and heads into the kitchen to grab a cup of much needed coffee. He walks to his front door to retrieve the morning paper with a cup of java slowly warming his hand and watches as the sun slowly shows its golden head over the morning horizon. It seems like the new day is here.

As he turns around to go back inside he feels a cold shiver go up his spine, almost as if someone is watching him from a distance.. As he turns around to look the birds quit singing, ceasing their constant chatter like a set of drums hastily silenced. Something foreboding is in the air, it is thick with it. Creating a smoky haze of sorts in the morning air.

Mark continues his morning, but can't shake his disconcerting feelings, only the day will tell what will happen as he walks his way down the winding streets to the ACVille Hardware Store.

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I'm headed off to work, I don't see anything or any reason to change my vote right now. I will try to make it back before game nightfall to see what has transpired.

 

[ZSandmann]

**Yawn** quiet night eh? Nothing has really changed in my mind about the players, I'm about to go read back a bit and place my vote. Night will be falling as I'm driving home from work tonight. So I will try and use my coffee breaks to post some info and such. As much as joander seems the obvious pick I would advise everyone to think very carefully before hitching up the bandwagon. It worked for CL and Mee-mee las tgame but it won't always be that easy. Remember how Nola got railroaded on Night 1 last time. Also there are a lot of votes for a lot of different people and that is classic Mafia strategy, as long as the person with the majority is an Innocent they will scatter and try not to bandwagon early. Just some morning coffee thoughts. More soon...

 

[Sploke]

The cowboy wakes up at early morning, refreshed from a full night of sleep. He gets a cup of strong black coffee and goes out back to check on his horse. The horse seems wary and nervous...something has him spooked. The cowboy feels it too; not any thing in particular, just a general air of suspicion and distrust hanging over the town. He turns and walks the streets in the early morning fog. Something is going to happen tonight, although he's not sure anyone knows what yet.

 

[ZSandmann]

DAY 1 VOTE
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As we all know by now, Day 1 is a craps game, even more so with the new failed lynch and other possible random outcomes. I have compiled this vote based on the very limited information from day 1 and do not ask anyone to follow me blindly. That said, let's get into it.​

Sweeeeeeet I can actually post this time around, instead of just watching them. Hey, there's only 4 of them now, this should only take what, 2 nights? And for what its worth (probably not too much at this point) I am also an innocent.

First post, proclaims innocence, points out the numbers and exclaims how easy this will be.

Ok, time for some analysis. But holy paranoia, batman.

First off, I agree that Jo's posting patterns are erratic and nonsensical at best. However, I was at least partially responsible in getting him to sign up, and it was kind of a "hey its fun, try it out and you'll figure it out along the way" kind of thing. Now, I realize that if it seems like I'm protecting him now and hes mafia, then I'm digging myself a hole, but I just wanted to throw it out there as a line of thought.

JM's posting patterns seem relatively different form how she started the game last time, but it may be a schedule thing like she said. Although, there were several times I noticed she would state that she would be gone/busy/inactive for periods yet keep posting throughout those times if attacked. I don't know if that means anything right now.

On one hand I want to vote just to prove that I'm as willing to take a wild guess as anyone else. However, if I vote for an innocent, will I look like mafia? If I wait and vote after everyone else, will I look like mafia trying to blend in? If I jump on a train with everyone else, does that make me look guilty? I'm not going to cast a vote right now just for the sake of having a vote out there. I want to read some more posts before even thinking about making a decision. Its about time for water changes..right after some character development

Mafia Grocery List:
Step 1: Distance yourself from the current most likely candidate for lynching.
Step 2: Accuse the powerhouse player from last round of playing "different".
Step 3: Explain in painstaking detail all the ways you look like Mafia but really aren't, then don't even vote.

At dusk in ACville, the sun is still hot from the day, and dust blows on the wind through the quiet town. In the distance, a long shadow approaches the town square; a new face. A black horse, dusty and sweaty, slowly carries its rider, who appears practically asleep from the day's ride but is ever wary of his surroundings. Two things are immediately evident about this newcomer, to the neighbors who peer through their blinds: His slow, deliberate motions that indicate many day spent in saddle, and the .45 strapped to the cowboy's belt. He walks his horse to the front grass of a newly purchased house, drops the reins to let him graze for a bit, and wearily lays down under the shade of a tree and drops off to sleep, thinking about the many eyes watching him from behind shrouded windows.

I love roleplay so I'm not faulting you on that, others see differently. But to come in cowboy style with pistol and horse is kinda telling, no? As someone else said, I really hope you're not the Vig, that would stink.

Therein lies the problem. If you sound like mafia, people think you're mafia. If you try to not sound like mafia, people think, well he's trying not to sound like mafia so he must be mafia. Catch 22.


I posted 3 times so far and they were fairly different, but its only 3 posts...hardly a proper sample group. I actually think some of the "senior players" are at somewhat of a disadvantage because you can gauge how they are playing with regard to previous games. Newbs, like myself, have no track record, so everything is going to seem suspicious until you figure out an individual's style. In other words, I wouldn't call someone inconsistent because they haven't established a style yet, only if they had a style that they began going against at some point.

In response to Ice telling you to be sure and proofread you throw the old Mafia Catch 22 out for the second time. In response to Coler calling out your varied posting styles you point the finger back at the Senior players.

I wish people would stop saying things like this...the status and special roles of each person are assigned by RANDOM NUMBER GENERATION. To state that "you were such and such last game so its possible that you're such and such this game" is completely misleading. Unless, of course, you know something we don't. Based on that, its conceivable that everyone in the game is mafia, since assignments in that game have nothing to do with this game.

In response to clown-lover calling out Ice and stating how he was Detective last game. You jump on the statistics and probability wagon after several others already have. Just because clown-lover may not understand how the roles are handed out does not make them de-facto Mafia.

As far as I understand the game anyway, that first statement is correct. For this game, we each have a 22% chance of coming up as mafia. Thats it. If you factor in previous games, yes for "senior players", there is a higher probability that they have been selected as mafia at some point in time. However, the number generation is independent each game, it is not affected by previous results. Its like flipping a coin...just because you flip 10 heads in a row, it is not more likely at that point that you will flip a tails, its 50/50 because they're independent trials.

Again you jump on clown-lover for a bit of misguided thinking. I agree that the way the roles may or may not be assigned, rb has never really said to my knowledge, should not factor into our thinking. This game is a big logic puzzle. Who lives in a green house and has a pet cat named Foo-Foo?

Alright, some thoughts.

Jo, JM and possibly mal are kind of tipping me toward mafia. Not any one thing in particular, just the style of play I think. Probably doesn't mean anything right now, but time will tell.

HN is tipping me toward innocent. The voting style is pretty probing, not what I would expect from someone who knew who was who.

I'm going to throw a vote out there for now and see what happens.

I vote to lynch Malbri. Lets see where that gets us.

And finally the vote. You have posted several good suspects in your list, you gave reasons for why they are good suspects. Then you vote for someone you haven't even mentioned before without any explanation. Classic Mafia behavior from my limited experience is to spread out the votes early and try not to make a bandwagon. Good news is if you are Mafia, and you very well could be, the names you have called out can be studied much more carefully for who you protected and who you railroaded.

I vote to lynch sploke.

 

[Dangerdoll]

I think with all the evidence presented and night coming soon, I need to vote. I vote to lynch joander because of her being at tehe top of my list and because she is also on several others lists.

 

[Dangerdoll]

crap, forgot to bold it.... I vote to lynch Joander

 

[Sploke]

First post, proclaims innocence, points out the numbers and exclaims how easy this will be.

Ok, so maybe I started out the game a little enthusiastic, but its my first time and I was excited.

I love roleplay so I'm not faulting you on that, others see differently. But to come in cowboy style with pistol and horse is kinda telling, no? As someone else said, I really hope you're not the Vig, that would stink.

I live on a horse farm, I like riding horses. I even have a cowboy hat and a duster. I just find it a fun role to play.

In response to clown-lover calling out Ice and stating how he was Detective last game. You jump on the statistics and probability wagon after several others already have. Just because clown-lover may not understand how the roles are handed out does not make them de-facto Mafia.



Again you jump on clown-lover for a bit of misguided thinking. I agree that the way the roles may or may not be assigned, rb has never really said to my knowledge, should not factor into our thinking. This game is a big logic puzzle. Who lives in a green house and has a pet cat named Foo-Foo?

I guess I should have said game-off or something for those posts...the statistical clarification was completely separate from any kind of gameplay. I'm a numbers geek and I don't like statements that don't make logical sense, so I tried to clarify. Again, might as well have been in a separate thread for all it had to do with the actual gameplay. I wasn't trying to imply mafia through lack of understanding, I just wanted to make sure no one was jumping to irrational conclusions based on flawed logic.

And finally the vote. You have posted several good suspects in your list, you gave reasons for why they are good suspects. Then you vote for someone you haven't even mentioned before without any explanation. Classic Mafia behavior from my limited experience is to spread out the votes early and try not to make a bandwagon. Good news is if you are Mafia, and you very well could be, the names you have called out can be studied much more carefully for who you protected and who you railroaded.

I vote to lynch sploke.

Yes, the bandwagon strategy is one thing. I took a cue from Hooked Newbie, as I think this was also the strategy he was trying to play. Cast a vote and see who reacts and how, to draw out possible alliances and protection. I've got some ideas but not much, and as I said, it was a start, and likely to change by tonight. Anyway, thats my story and I'm sticking to it.

 

[judgemax]

This quote makes me uneasy about judgemax.

a) joander is the easiest pick for a lynch if you don't try and think a little more about other people. If you do exercise the mind a bit there are a few other people for whom a case can be made.

b) I've named judgemax as top of my list of mafia for day one, twice at least. I don't think this makes me very helpful in her eyes.

I'm not really being picked out by anyone despite being more vocal early in this game than in any game I've played so far. Joander earlier had a go but that vote was withdrawn, which makes me think I'll be removed tonight, in case that bears on the doctor's thinking (make your own decisions doctor, this is not a cry for help - give me the meds only if you think it is the right thing to do). I think there are clearly others who have also put them at risk by their forthright posting, if they arn't actually mafia.

I am saying exactly as you have already said, I am watching, Thats it, your posts have been more helpful this round, I Wasn't saying to me, just that, that gives me some pause to watch you..Thats why I wrote nothing really, ..and , i agree, that jo, is an easy early pick, Its the first night, No matter how much I read, I am hesitant to assume much more right now., jo made it easy, ..i can't help to feel that way, if he is innocent, I will feel terrible, But as you all have stated, the odds of hitting mafia, the first night, are slim, and none, ..so, i am going with slim, rather than none, ..

Just want to say, that pics in early morning fog, came out awesome! yaya! I was not happy when the alarm went off, but It was really worth it, ..Now, off to finish printing!