Mafia #51 - Mafia Citizens - The Play

Kashta show me where in this post I "speculate" that you posted early because you got a PM. I don't seem to see it...

Sorry, pappy... this is getting confused now on both our parts. Now you've got me looking for phrasing that I didn't say. We're both get lost in the wording.

You didn't say I posted early BECAUSE I got a PM. What you "implied" or "speculated" about was that I posted early in the thread AFTER getting a PM ........ because you're the one who suggested that I have a Power Role (PR) since I'd "forgotten" not everyone received PMs.

Which means --> The only way I could have a power role would be via private message notification from JL. That's where the PM stuff comes into this.

But this is impossible because of the timing involved.

Madcrawdad is the one who has been using this (impossible but yet... "higly likely") theory against me that (1) I'm in a power role (i.e., rebel team), that (2) I got this PM (which was never sent to me) before posting prematurely in this thread, and (3) all the rest of his theorizing about how long he imagines I would sit here dinking around with intro posts after just finding out I had a power role simply because I mentioned (somewhere) that if I had gotten a PM like that, I'd certainly go make contact with my new teammates instead.

This whole train wreck Mad has shoved me into isn't your doing, pappy. And that's not what I was saying. And yes... It was IceH20 who followed your idea who made that correlation directly when he decided to vote for me.

Your statement (which I alluded to because it was the turningpoint following my exchange with Red) is the first point at which the train against me got its origin. But even that wasn't your fault... you're not the one/ones who pushed this. Other people (for whatever reasons) followed this idea and pursued this angle as evidence that I can't possibly be innocent.

Anyway, it was this post of yours where you said I must have a PR in this game. That's what I've been referring to. That's also what others (like IceH20) triggered on.

My guess is that kashta is a PR as she forgot that not everyone got a PM from JL with their role. Doesn't help much but I'm thinking for now that it puts her towards the "not a citizen" side.

Incidentally, I saw something hit the thread from TRS where he acts like he doesn't even know what PMs we are talking about. Here's a quote from him that contradicts that remark.

Yeah... go figure.

agreed, never got that PM. If you look at the signup thread, I was complaining about not getting one, because I didn't see this thread.

and kash, there is your finger pointing self, god how much I didn't miss that. Does my style bother you because I was pointing the finger at you early, and getting people to open your eyes to your scummy playing? (this is rhetorical, don't comment about me being random blah blah blah).
Lets get some different people posting!
 
Whats the vote count JL?
You could probably get one yourself...just sayin'...

And Kashta I guess I could see where you made the mistake. To be honest it wasn't making me all that suspicious of you but I wanted to make sure it was clear exactly what I said and it wasn't twisted as part of some evil plot to destroy our wealth and happiness. :evil_lol:
 
Sorry, pappy... this is getting confused now on both our parts. Now you've got me looking for phrasing that I didn't say. We're both get lost in the wording.

You didn't say I posted early BECAUSE I got a PM. What you "implied" or "speculated" about was that I posted early in the thread AFTER getting a PM ........ because you're the one who suggested that I have a Power Role (PR) since I'd "forgotten" not everyone received PMs.

Which means --> The only way I could have a power role would be via private message notification from JL. That's where the PM stuff comes into this.

But this is impossible because of the timing involved.

Madcrawdad is the one who has been using this (impossible but yet... "higly likely") theory against me that (1) I'm in a power role (i.e., rebel team), that (2) I got this PM (which was never sent to me) before posting prematurely in this thread, and (3) all the rest of his theorizing about how long he imagines I would sit here dinking around with intro posts after just finding out I had a power role simply because I mentioned (somewhere) that if I had gotten a PM like that, I'd certainly go make contact with my new teammates instead.

This whole train wreck Mad has shoved me into isn't your doing, pappy. And that's not what I was saying. And yes... It was IceH20 who followed your idea who made that correlation directly when he decided to vote for me.

Your statement (which I alluded to because it was the turningpoint following my exchange with Red) is the first point at which the train against me got its origin. But even that wasn't your fault... you're not the one/ones who pushed this. Other people (for whatever reasons) followed this idea and pursued this angle as evidence that I can't possibly be innocent.

Anyway, it was this post of yours where you said I must have a PR in this game. That's what I've been referring to. That's also what others (like IceH20) triggered on.



Incidentally, I saw something hit the thread from TRS where he acts like he doesn't even know what PMs we are talking about. Here's a quote from him that contradicts that remark.

Yeah... go figure.
Again, even earlier in the game...TRS trying to keep attention away from him and on someone else. A scummy tactic that they are sticking too....at least they are staying consistently scummy like.
 
Whats the vote count JL?

Un official but what I gather is

The Red Severum with (3) Zsandmann (235), Jpappy (339), Luvbugs (348)
Kashta with (2) Plantling (210), Madcrawdad (223)
Plantling with (1) mostlycichlids (300)
 
Because of this post, Dawg:

In this post it looks like you're putting targets on the people voting for Kashta, regardless of her affiliation. If she's lynched and flips town, you're going after the early voters. If she's lynched and flips scum, you're going after the late voters...when in actuality, the most logical place to look if Kash flips scum is at those NOT voting Kash, such as yourself.

Also, the fact that you voted for Ice, who was on the Kash wagon, kinda says indirectly that you were against the case on Kashta.



Unfortunately, you can't be sure of anyone's motives in the game until their role is revealed, or their actions start panning out as people get lynched. For now, you just need to study the cases built (or build your own) and see if they seem logical.

As far as voting with Plant and TRS... I believe in my case on Kashta. I've already given reasons why I'm unconvinced, at this point, that they're scum.

In the post about people voting for Kash I was simply stating why a train on Kash could be telling for the town instead of bad as others were trying to point out.

Your point about me voting for Ice because he voted for Kash is invalid. I voted for Ice when he was voting for Maverick. Check your facts before posting BS.
 
Day one switching to save your self makes sense, cause who wants to be out day 1? If it was done later in the game it would look suspicious.

by the same reasoning the vote switch seems to desperate for a day 1 move, especially since he moved from a known citizen.

I would be more worried by the absent of TRS, seemed to have disappeared after making a post full of untruths. Depending on how he responds will determine how i vote, either Kash or TRS. I would rather vote Kash, a lot of information about plant and TRS would be gained if she was lynched.

BKW...could you clarify who you are referring to in the first 2 paragraphs??
 
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