Mafia 54:Vampires Return (The Play)

Coler asked us to post our 2 main suspects, so here's mine. In both cases, it the connection between both of them which draws my attention right now... more so than what either has said or done individually.

First we have Zaffy acting unbelieveably suspicious (or paranoid).. more than usual from what he's done in this game -- with the exception of his last-minute vote switch earlier on. But why? And why now? If nothing else, isn't this the worst possible time for him to get hit with a case of the jitters if he was really just another innocent villager? That's exactly what we're looking for as the pressure mounts on the 2 remaining vampires. And... that's how we found the last two vampires we killed.

On top of this, Zaffy got called out for the way he was acting (suspicious and evasive)... got voted on...then Lani jumped right in to his defense. Lani in a rather defiant way. When questioned further on his declarations that it's IMPOSSIBLE to even consider Zaffy a suspect, he reverted to a position that he's confused and doesn't understand what's going on. Come on... we've been doing this for a week and a half now. That's also the same argument Zaffy used to avoid answering my questions. Uhh, we must be talking about different things... and gee, I didn't notice two villagers had been turned instead of one.

Evil or innocent, it still think the two are connected somehow inside this game... not just as friends on the outside. I know the rest of you aren't sure about them either. None of us are.... I realize that too. Just as much as I wish I could zero in on something more conclusive.... it's all I've got right now. For everyone else, I'm just not sure.
 
Coler asked us to post our 2 main suspects, so here's mine. In both cases, it the connection between both of them which draws my attention right now... more so than what either has said or done individually.

First we have Zaffy acting unbelieveably suspicious (or paranoid).. more than usual from what he's done in this game -- with the exception of his last-minute vote switch earlier on. But why? And why now? If nothing else, isn't this the worst possible time for him to get hit with a case of the jitters if he was really just another innocent villager? That's exactly what we're looking for as the pressure mounts on the 2 remaining vampires. And... that's how we found the last two vampires we killed.

On top of this, Zaffy got called out for the way he was acting (suspicious and evasive)... got voted on...then Lani jumped right in to his defense. Lani in a rather defiant way. When questioned further on his declarations that it's IMPOSSIBLE to even consider Zaffy a suspect, he reverted to a position that he's confused and doesn't understand what's going on. Come on... we've been doing this for a week and a half now. That's also the same argument Zaffy used to avoid answering my questions. Uhh, we must be talking about different things... and gee, I didn't notice two villagers had been turned instead of one.

Evil or innocent, it still think the two are connected somehow inside this game... not just as friends on the outside. I know the rest of you aren't sure about them either. None of us are.... I realize that too. Just as much as I wish I could zero in on something more conclusive.... it's all I've got right now. For everyone else, I'm just not sure.

I think i was pretty clear, if the rules were as I though, it was impossible.

They are not, so I have absolutely no case to not suspect Zaffy at this point other than he's not who I would have picked (target on his head and all). He's been suspect form the start to me, and the only thing that changed that was cold hard facts. Those facts were based on a flawed interpretation of the rules, which I was very clear and open about, and now Zaff is right back where he was in my book.

I'm confused because at this point, I really am voting based on nothing in particular, and that sucks. We can't narrow down the candidates on anything solid, and it's frustrating.

I'm not a vampire, i know that's hallow, but it's true.
 
My problem with Rocker is that he hasn't contributed anything to the thread. He confirmed Kashs "other forum" post a few days ago. But other than that his content is exactly 0. I just pulled his posts, out of 31 posts most are jibber-jabber nonsense or plain minimal. He certainly hasn't helped the town at all. Ogre said he thought the vampires would sit back and laugh, does rocker fit the bill?

Annie I think could have been coached by Ogre. The recent outbursts are certainly out of character.

Paperdragon 50 posts, so more than Rocker And, more of them with some content at least. So, she's been participating.

Lani, Obviously a huge change from last night to tonight. He confirmed Wyccos list, which makes me think he's innocent. Could be a possible turn, but I think he doesn't fit the profile that they have shown they want. It's his first game and he's a little eratic.

Kash fits the bill of their previous turns, experience. She is certainly interesting in making sure I burn tonight.

As far as the hunter coming out, If wycco is in private communication then I think he/she should stay put. The priest however I think has no reason to come out at this point.
 
Uggh.. this game is messing with my head.

Coler, that's all I was trying to say in my earlier post. I still wonder about Rocker too. I just can't point to anything suspicious to call him up for a vote so I was going with a hunch I've got about Zaffy. Rocker doesn't post anything much that even relates to what's going on.
 
Coler asked us to post our 2 main suspects, so here's mine. In both cases, it the connection between both of them which draws my attention right now... more so than what either has said or done individually.

First we have Zaffy acting unbelieveably suspicious (or paranoid).. more than usual from what he's done in this game -- with the exception of his last-minute vote switch earlier on. But why? And why now? If nothing else, isn't this the worst possible time for him to get hit with a case of the jitters if he was really just another innocent villager? That's exactly what we're looking for as the pressure mounts on the 2 remaining vampires. And... that's how we found the last two vampires we killed.

On top of this, Zaffy got called out for the way he was acting (suspicious and evasive)... got voted on...then Lani jumped right in to his defense. Lani in a rather defiant way. When questioned further on his declarations that it's IMPOSSIBLE to even consider Zaffy a suspect, he reverted to a position that he's confused and doesn't understand what's going on. Come on... we've been doing this for a week and a half now. That's also the same argument Zaffy used to avoid answering my questions. Uhh, we must be talking about different things... and gee, I didn't notice two villagers had been turned instead of one.

Evil or innocent, it still think the two are connected somehow inside this game... not just as friends on the outside. I know the rest of you aren't sure about them either. None of us are.... I realize that too. Just as much as I wish I could zero in on something more conclusive.... it's all I've got right now. For everyone else, I'm just not sure.

Of course I'm paranoid. I'm being sent to my death tonight. Why tonight? because it's tonight that I'm being sent to my death. I sure was paranoid day 1 when I could have been sent to. So is today really that different?

What question did I avoid? Ask again please.

I think I pretty clearly pointed out that 2 villagers had been turned, I even quoted H2O twice confirming it.

Since you're not sure on others, are you looking at them?
 
In order of whom I suspect:

Lead:
1) Annie
2) Rocker
3) Zaffy
4) Rich
5) Lanimert
6) Kashta
7) Paper Dragon

Lesser:
1) Lanimert
2) Kashta
3) Rocker
4) Paper Dragon
5) Zaffy
6) Rich
7) Annie



Gosh, I'm really torn- I'd feel like crap if we let Zaffy off and he is the lead vampire- he is my third pick.

Oh gosh... I don't know...

I vote to lynch Rocker.

At least for now.
 
My list is assuming the lead vampire changed last night because either Ogre or JM were lead prior to that. I don't think lead has stayed consistant throughout the game.
 
I think next time we do this game we should make it so that we do in fact know if a vampire was a turn or not. There are just too many variables to really narrow anything down without that.

Really wish Rocker or Annie would respond. It would be helpful.
 
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