Mafia 54:Vampires Return (The Play)

Holy Cow! She's innocent!

Now I'm confused and have to go back to square one and rethink it all over again. I must admit- Paps and Ogre put forwards good convincing arguments for her and along with my already strong suspicions of her made me fairly sure.

Sorry Noods!

I'm still not letting JohnL completely off the hook! ;) I still find his persistant defence of Noods to be a little odd- even though she did turn out to be innocent- how could he have been so sure?

I guess everyone who pushed for Noods needs to be examined again too.


Rich was definately acting odd last night- he definately needs reviewing.

RB's silence is confusing what to make of it but I've seen nothing to suggest guilt and after all the suggestions he'll be turned next I'd almost suggest he wasn't.

I'd like to take another look at Kashta- after a blustering start she's gone quiet and completely changed her tone- could she be guilty after all- her comments on RB and Noods seemed very smoke filled? Zaffy's day one antics- which seemed self defence.


Paper Dragon 630+ posts in and still hasn't made a call based on observation- how long can she hide behind the newbie card?


I'm going to have to think long and hard- I was so sure of Noods now she's innocent I don't know what rock to look under and I'm seeing shadows everywhere.
 
Definately subject to change but for now to get the ball rolling:

I vote to stake Rich.
 
That list is too short.
hmmm, good point, we should add you in there.


I vote to stick a stake/steak into Zaffy.
 
dam i have to stop skimming.
 
You don't need to read so much when you're just taking orders do you.
 
Rb: looking not so good right now (to me). He thinks he's got the goods on Jpap and then votes Noods. I'm wondering if that was a nothing ploy and he really didn't have anything and just made it up. If it's more than that, he needs to do a little more explanation.

Jpap: Of course, the above does nothing to clear Jpap. My thoughts on him are that he and noods were pretty vocal at each other. Maybe they were just misunderstanding each other, maybe not. With noods being innocent (the worst possible outcome from last night), it really casts doubt on Jpaps innocence.

John: His rather vocal defense of noods has some interesting implications. Just as hindsight, he looks pretty good, but how did he know. There were 3 vamps before nightfall and 2 good PRs that could theoretically know noods status. Since Rb has, in a manner of speaking, let us down, then I'm willing to give John a pass for now.

JM: I didn't think he was innocent early yesterday, but that was based on Jpaps statements... which put a lot into question for me.

Dawg: Seems to be helping the town more than anything else, when he posts.

Kash: There's a lot of stuff for and against her. My gut says not a vamp and I really don't see anything to counter the gut on her. Again, big arguements with Jpap seem to help more than hurt her innocence.

Everyone else: I really don't have much of an opinion on. There's not nearly as much to go on and we've only had two nights of voting records.

For now, I vote to stake Jpap. Again, I think we got some info from noods death and I think Jpap will clear up some more for us.
 
nah, i just dont need orders when i know you arleady have/are giving orders. ;)
 
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