Mafia 54:Vampires Return (The Play)

Zaffy said:
I think what we have here is the worst vampire on the planet. Towing the party line, voting for whoever the vampires want to lynch, but failing at giving at least a semblance of thoughtful reasoning.

I have Jpapp on my list, I think he could be scum. But saying that because someone defends themselves they are scum is just inane.

I vote to lynch Rocker92

Obviously, subject to change. Mainly because I doubt anyone else will run with it and there are plenty of suspects right now.

Lani, you know you are allowed to look at other suspects. Just checking.
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Does anyone have any thoughts on this? or am I just out of touch?
 
OgreMkV said:
So you're theory is that Jpap is a vamp and Rich is last night's turn?
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I would say that Rich was turned before last night. I think he was acting like mafia last night before the turn. I think JPap is a vamp too.

johnlarson66 said:
I agree with this, but I want to vote jpap first. It makes no sense why rich was unwilling to vote jpap last night, but willing to vote someone he thought was innocent. The wierdness was just that, wierd. rich was aware of Rb's hint about jpapy with noods switch and then Rb's switch and he thought it was odd. From his posts leading up I figured he would've vote jpap, but he voted Rb instead.

The more rich posts, the more he seems like a vampire. The less Rb posts any information, the more he seems like a vampire. I think it is pretty appearent that jpap is a vampire. I wish could just lynch all three at once.
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I have no problem with a JPap and Rich split vote. The only thing that bothers me is JPap is voting for Rich but Rich isn't voting for JPap. Rich has also not explained why he did not vote for JPap. Of course if they are both vamps this points toward JPap being the LV and his lesser vamp not being willing to vote him.
 
I think rocker fits the bill of a turn, last night was what I was thinking. Only thing is I see that other people fitting the same description (newer player who no one suspects) so I am not going to put the vote on rocker yet. He's def not been much help but same thing happened last game.
 
dirtydawg10 said:
I would say that Rich was turned before last night. I think he was acting like mafia last night before the turn. I think JPap is a vamp too.



I have no problem with a JPap and Rich split vote. The only thing that bothers me is JPap is voting for Rich but Rich isn't voting for JPap. Rich has also not explained why he did not vote for JPap. Of course if they are both vamps this points toward JPap being the LV and his lesser vamp not being willing to vote him.
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I explained you just don't like the explanation. I said if you all convinced me I would move off of my number to one of my other suspects. I have seen nothing convincing.

I am thinking you, Jpap and JM. With either JL or RB somewhere in that mix.
 
rich311k said:
I explained you just don't like the explanation. I said if you all convinced me I would move off of my number to one of my other suspects. I have seen nothing convincing.

I am thinking you, Jpap and JM. With either JL or RB somewhere in that mix.
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You are correct. I don't like your explanation. That's because your opinion changed after nightfall even when Noods was innocent as you had said. In this game a major change in thoughts after nightfall (when there were no surprises to that person) is not a good thing. It means you are a vamp, you are the turn or you had an investigation. Nothing in your posts points to the fact that you may have had an investigation. If you had an investigation on Noods you wouldn't have voted for her.
 
dirtydawg10 said:
You are correct. I don't like your explanation. That's because your opinion changed after nightfall even when Noods was innocent as you had said. In this game a major change in thoughts after nightfall (when there were no surprises to that person) is not a good thing. It means you are a vamp, you are the turn or you had an investigation. Nothing in your posts points to the fact that you may have had an investigation. If you had an investigation on Noods you wouldn't have voted for her.
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You said I did not explain and I did. I am flexible in my thoughts and I got different read when I read last night and played through today. Nothing like a nights sleep, a cup of coffee and a corn muffin to get the mind rolling. I do not think being rigid is an asset despite what you say should be in this game.
 
Zaffy said:
Does anyone have any thoughts on this? or am I just out of touch?
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I think you're out of touch. Although rocker would be the best LV ever. No one but you has even mentioned him. And I think he's been all but totally silent.

But, i think there are bigger fish to fry right now. See below...

jpappy789 said:
I think rocker fits the bill of a turn, last night was what I was thinking. Only thing is I see that other people fitting the same description (newer player who no one suspects) so I am not going to put the vote on rocker yet. He's def not been much help but same thing happened last game.
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Jpap, is there anyone in this game that you have not declared that you think is a vampire? Who was it last game that we knew was mafia and was saying everyone and their great aunt was mafia too... I don't think it was Luv...

Anyway, you're playing a classic mafia tactic, implicate everyone so no one can tell who you're partners are.


Townies, we're giving this thing to the vampires. After we stake Jpap, I'm starting a campaign against the lowest posters. I think everyone would agree that the only chance we have is to keep up the discussions and use what we find to help us with the vamps. The lower posters aren't helping us if they are innocent and are great subjects for vampires turns because they haven't said enough to implicate themselves as mafia.

lani, Wycco, paper, rb, maybe even dawg and Coler seem to be some of the lower posters (although dawg and Coler do seem to have made constructive posts).

Right now it 4-12, best case after tonight it's 3-11... worst case is 4-10. It's getting tight. If Jpap isn't a vamp, then we're down to a must get a vamp tomorrow. If Jpap is a vamp and the kill. but don't turn someone, then we're OK for a little while. I know you know all this, but the game could be over after the next game turn. We need some activity, not silence.

Those of you I listed. I know you have your favorite targets. I encourage you to help us out. Pick one or two other players (at random if need be) and start analyzing their posts and voting patterns... then put it out there for everyone to see.

OK, rant over. Thank you for listening.
 
i dont know if we should be getting rid of people just because they are not posting. look what happened to noods: most of us thought that she was a vamp because she wasnt posting as much as her usual babble, and then we staked her, and she was innocent. so, we shouldnt be so quick to dismiss all of the low posters.

RB has been cryptic in his responses that make little sense and are not helping the town at all, and just confusing everyone. his behavior is actually causing a pretty big ruckus when he is around, which may or may not be distracting other people from those who they were originally investigating.
 
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