Mafia 55...Badlands Twisted...the Play...

[mostlycichlids]

This game should be fun once we get started.

Looks like Rocker voted to "lynch" instead of "genetically test." But Bishop counted it already, so maybe he's letting that slide.

Yeah, rb did count it but the rules state it has to be in exact form.

I retract my vote to genetically test John and vote to genetically test Luvbugz.

Why? 1) hunch, 2) me thinks she doth protest too much.

I wouldn't be adverse to changing to DD, LadyG, Zsand, Kash or... well anyone else at this point.

I was thinking the same...

Okay my list is this JL, Ogre, and ??. Anyone else noticing how it looks like Ogre and JL are working together?? And using some really bogus thing about me and Wycco being connected because of my dad??!?! Sorry JL. I am still not following your reasoning. Go ahead and lynch me. When I flip innocent, I hope the townies will head my warnings about you and Ogre.

Luv you sure are throwing around a lot of accusations and blowing things out of proportion...I have played with you on a couple of other games....something not right about you.

I retract my vote on LG and vote to genetically test Luvbugs

 

[jpappy789]

This is bad timing for a slow starting game. I need to go out this afternoon and I'm not sure if I'll get back before nightfall. I'll try though.. there isn't a real good place for my vote yet.

From the way I'm reading her, Luvbugz seems more accusatory than normal. She's usually more defensive instead so this concerns me a little. I know she gets aggressive at times too though.. so I'm not real comfortable voting her for it.

As for the stray post made by her father, I think we really need to ignore it. JL is making that part of the game by making connections based on that. This is something we shouldn't be doing but posts made by outsiders should not become part of game play.

I vote that we genetically test you, Luvbugz. But then again, I know where you get your genetics. You would fail the test.

Correct me if I am wrong but wasn't Luv lynched a few games back (I want to say it was JL's #53.5 game) for being "defensive" and found to be mafia? Wouldn't it be logical to say then that if she is playing the opposite this game she is not evil?

I'm just trying to make sense out of all of this...

JL-I still dont see the wycco-Bubb connection. How did you possibly think they were one in the same?

Luv-I really dont like how you put Ogre on your list seemingly because he voted for you. I see why you are upset, I dont understand most of this either, but adding Ogre is too OMGUS-y for me.

Ogre-You said you would have voted Luv regardless of JL. Problem is your vote just so happened to be placed after JL and Luv "went at it," and before it all went down you said you were not ready to commit on Luv (or DD).

MC-I do not like the piggy backing on to Luv, and this actually concerns me the most. You havent said really anything but you just put someone in the lead for votes...

I retract my vote on DD and vote to genetically test MC

 

[jpappy789]

Sorry, the bubb2 quote shouldnt have been there...

 

[Kashta]

Correct me if I am wrong but wasn't Luv lynched a few games back (I want to say it was JL's #53.5 game) for being "defensive" and found to be mafia? Wouldn't it be logical to say then that if she is playing the opposite this game she is not evil?

I'm just trying to make sense out of all of this...

If that was the only game to look at, yes.. I'd say you're right. In 53.5 Bugz got extremely defensive after she botched the missed vote pickup because the suspicion that aroused seemed to rattle her. Turned out that she was mafia. In two other games, she put herself into the hotseat over early day 1 jokes/random questions and got defensive about those. One was the pizza topping thing (and I don't remember now what the unfortunate comment was before that). In both those games, she was innocent.

What makes me wonder this time is comparing her game play to that of mafia 51 where her and I were both on the mafia communicating team. She wasn't defensive at all then, but her posts were very aggressive. And that seems to be the way she's playing now too.

I just don't know. It's too easy to vote her this time because there's a lack of very much else going on.

 

[Kashta]

I need to go back and look some more. I have to leave soon, but I'll post again and hope to place my vote (somewhere) before I go.

 

[Lady G]

Really nothing much to comment on, not much has happened. Except everyone jumpin to Luv. Not really sure myself what to think of it all, I know I have been on that side of having John, Ogre, DD and usually Ice going at ya...I know how defensive they can make you. Although, IMO Luv doesn't seem to be getting tooooo defensive about it more like she tried to explain then gets her words crammed down her throat. I agree with Pap though about the hole threory of her not being AS defensive as before makes her evil. Of course if she is, her team mates may be coaching her to stay more calm. I just don't know.

Dawg I do have a question for a statement you made though....you voted John (no biggie) but whe questioned about it you responed with, John is always a good day one vote. I am courious as to why that would be? Personally, unless I really feel he is evil or I am evil and no he is innocent I like having him around I think he is usually pretty helpful...unless of course as I stated I was evil and he was innocent then yep...he would be a GREAT day one vote.

 

[rich311k]

There really is not much to go on. I do remember Bugz melt down when she gets on the hot seat. This time she is not that over the top. Which could mean anything. I am comfortable enough to leave my vote where it is unless something new develops.

 

[Kashta]

I've been updating the vote talley to see what I could figure out from how the votes have fallen so far.

noodles (1) wycco 2
rich (1) nood 3
jpap (2) kash 5 rock 30
luv (3) rich 6 ogre 97 mostly 111
jl66 (2) dawg 81 bugz 100
lady (1) jl66 11
Zsand (2) DD 17 lady 28
kash (1) annie 23
annie (1) Zsand 26
mostly (1) jpappy 112

(Not certain the mod will count Rocker's "lynch" vote... but he has so far.)

Retractions:

Lady G switched from Rocker to Zsand in Post 28.
JL switched from Lady G to Wycco in Post 43.
Ogre switched from JL to Bugz in Post 97.
Bugz switched from Wycco to JL in Post 100.
MC switched from Lady G to Bugz in Post 111.
Jpappy switched from DD to MC in Post 112.

If all these are right, here's how it stands... (assuming I haven't missed something).

3 votes on Luvbugz.
2 votes on Jpap, JL, and Zsand.
1 vote on Noods, Rich, Lady G, Kashta, Annie, and Mostly.

No votes on DD, Dawg, Ogre, Rocker, and Wycco.

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Day 1 frontrunners for lynching usually turn out to be all (or mostly) innocents. If that's the case here, then we'll look harder at the second and third votes on the top 4 leading genetic test candidates (tomorrow). Those would be Rocker, Ogre, Mostly, and Lady G. We'll also look at the first votes on those people... who are me, Rich, Dawg, and DD.

Trying to work out some logic to this... good candidates for evil might also be the 5 people with no votes on them at all. The communicating evil players are the only ones who've got something to go on at this point so it's easy for them to play well and not draw votes themselves, while the rest of us are still trying to figure something out.

So.... does anyone fall into more than one of those categories? Yes. Rocker and Ogre both added their votes as a second vote (on Jpappy and Luvbugz) -- and neither of them are carrying votes themselves. Dawg and DD also placed first votes (on JL and Zsand) and also don't have votes against them.

This is sort of like trying to second-guess who the bad guys are on Day 2 AFTER the Day 1 lynch victim turns up innocent. A little premature still for that 3 hours before nightfall because I don't know yet who'll get genetically tested here or whether they're good or eveil.... but I have to do something and there's not a lot of vote switching going on yet.

I don't like my random vote on Jpappy.. because it's really just random and he's not done anything blatantly suspicious. I'm reluctant to add my vote to either of the front runners this early in because that's usually a mistake. And no one bothered to get that train going on Noodles, after all (j/k).... lol.

So.. to just pick somebody else, I've considered Rocker, Ogre, Dawg, and DD. Of those 4 names, it's kinda close between Ogre and DD... I'm out of time now ... I'll just pick one.

I retract my vote on Jpappy and vote to genetically test Ogre.

I won't be able to change this between now and nightfall. I'm not real happy about this vote either, I'm afraid... but it's the best I can come up with using the most objective logic/analysis I could figure out. So there's my vote change and my reasoning for the suspects I listed. Hope it all goes well for the town tonight.

 

[Luvbugz]

So what are your excuses gonna be when I flip innoncent MC, Ogre and JL??? Oh, but she wasn't being defensive enough so I really thought she was evil?? Oh, you know the first days almost always end with lynching an innocent?? I really thought her dad was trying to tell us something with his post??? *rolls eyes*

I can give rich a pass because he was first to vote for me and it did seem random at the time. Heed my words townies. Ogre and JL need to be looked at. As well as the other whom seem to be trying to fly under the radar this time around.

 

[noodles62]

I am not satisfied with my vote on Rich, however I am not willing to get on the pile with the votes on Bugz and the next runners up - JL and Z....not prepared to tie it up with voting for either one of them either. hhmmmm, I will be back in a bit and see if I can figure out where to move my vote, if at all.....(I hate night 1!)