Mafia 55...Badlands Twisted...the Play...

GAH! That "there" should of been "THEIR"!
 
This post made me nervous too. I went back and reread the rules again to see if there was mention of how many evils there would be. There wasn't.

Yes she did. A freudian slip?

I didn't vote Noods to distance. I voted Noods, because she seemed like a better choice than MC did. I changed my vote from JL to MC because, at the time, JL made posts that seemed pro town, MC made a post that seemed scummy to me. During the course of the day, Noods made a post even scummier than MC's, and JL, a player I am now leaning innocent, was the one that cracked Noods. Now keep in mind, JL did talk me into voting Jpap last game, who was evil, so I was nervous of my Noods vote at that point, but I no longer am. There is slim to no chance JL and Wycco were on the same team knowing Wycco was not only evil, but Dr Gene. Wycco practically killed himself going after JL.

Yep. I was guilty of skimming her posts in my last two games. A crime I won't be guilty of again. I suspect she is a scumbag. She tried to lay low, but us getting DR Gene last night has forced her hand. She's back to making long confusing posts that just clog the thread. I thought MC was a bad vote but switched to Noods. Wycco seemed like a scumbag to me at that point, but Noods moreso.

Another post I agree with. DD is posting just enough to get by. Welcome to the game DD. You're a respected vet, yet you are doing zilch to help us. Thanks.

LOL

Yep. Scumbag. Just like I thought. You And DD are exactly the same

and expected.

I started this post at 7 pm., its now 1040. my ex gf showed up here and all hell broke loose. there will be a million posts by now, i dont care, i learned last game if i refresh i lose all i typed, and im not gonna type it again. I
Ok I still want someone to explain to me how Kash can be an ES? She was THE FIRST VOTE on Wycco, prior to her, there was no case on him. There is no way the ES would feel confident enough in their game to lynch their LEADER on Day 2! It just doesn't work like that. Yes they will lynch each other sometimes to clear their names, but I just can't for the love of Mafia, see any End Game of that strategy that benefits them.
Yeah but that really means nothing...That is a stragedy...and if anyone can play it, it's Kash...she is good at being evil. I agree noods has dug herself a hole and needs to be looked upon....without my vote she will likely go down...I don't want to be on the bandwagon if she is by chance innocent and Kash is almost trying way too hard to prove her case against noods even after it has been pointed out many times over. This makes me suspect her even more.
So lets hear it why are you voting for her?

She is trying to push the envelope on noods too hard...you do have a point esp if noods comes up guilty....But then what if by chance noods is innocent then what...?
She's pushing the envelope, as are the majority of the players BTW, because of Noods ties to Wycco, the Dead and known leader of the ES's. I'm all for looking for other suspects but you are really confuzzling me. Now I expect you will come back with another post saying me and Kash are working together or I'm protecting her or whatever, so I'll beat you to the punch. Kash is probably the strongest lead we have on a confirmed Innocent, I tend to lean towards those I believe I can trust.
GAH! I was hoping more would of happened since I was here last...come on guys we gotta get to talking here!
So looking back at the few posts that have been made, I just have a couple questions before I head off to work...


Why would you trust Kash LESS if Wycco came up evil?


As far as Wyccos "list" IMO, yes we should look it over and try to see if there is anything to it, but really...a evils lists doesn't hold much for me. Many times they will list their mates as evil thinking others will think them innocent, other times they will list them innocent or leaning innocent. They just have no bases to them and are very distracting to try and figure out.

Now, I have a question for everyone....Rocker, does he always play this way (as in doesn't really play)?

What about Annie?

I would love to hear some thoughts on other players besides Noods and Kash.
From the game sI have played yes they are pretty laid back, Rocker more so than Annie. When you put pressure on them they tend to speak up. Thus the reason I voted for Annie early.
I hope you mean Noods as guilty.

kash has some odd things but she did start the lynch of Wycco, so hard to build a real case against her. Even if she knows how many scientists there are.

G has been busy lately try to get some convo started. Could just be a cover.

JL is leaning innocent for me. As he was on Wy as well as Kash,

DD is really quiet and that is not that odd but she usually says something.

MC is making an odd vote today and is on my list as a possible.

Z worries me. He is not saying much of anything. He is usually good for some incite.

Dawg always worries me. I can never figure him out.

Annie made a few posts not saying much or rehashing others ideas. Definetly a worry.

Rich hell of a guy and a great photographer.

If I forgot someone it is because I am only vaguely aware they are playing.
Glad I worry you since I have you leaning strongly ES. And I'm sorry my posts are not up to your quality standards. I will try to be more concise tomorrow when I vote for you.

List of suspects:
Noodles: Connections to Wycco, good chance of Day 1 distancing votes. (8/10)
Rich: Defensive of Noodles, refuses to see why Kash is mostly cleared. (8/10)
Annie: Quiet, also doesn't get why Kash is Mostly cleared, seems to want to go against the grain. (6/10)
MC: Confuses me entirely, I see reasons for and against possible Evil behaviors. (6/10)
DD: Just quieter than normal, but may have RL issues like I did earlier. (5/10)
Rocker: Who knows for sure. Watching for now. (5/10)
 
I hope you mean Noods as guilty.

kash has some odd things but she did start the lynch of Wycco, so hard to build a real case against her. Even if she knows how many scientists there are.

G has been busy lately try to get some convo started. Could just be a cover.

JL is leaning innocent for me. As he was on Wy as well as Kash,

DD is really quiet and that is not that odd but she usually says something.

MC is making an odd vote today and is on my list as a possible.

Z worries me. He is not saying much of anything. He is usually good for some incite.

Dawg always worries me. I can never figure him out.

Annie made a few posts not saying much or rehashing others ideas. Definetly a worry.

Rich hell of a guy and a great photographer.

If I forgot someone it is because I am only vaguely aware they are playing.
Uh yep that is what I meant "guilty"...was still early didn't even have my glasses on yet.

Yes, I know you said she is pushing too hard for Noods...but still it just seems IDK odd.

How exactly are YOU being helpful?:huh:
Well...I guess people are saying I am being confusing...but My allegations are specifically from wycco's list....His list should, as i have already said have some clues...got to try and read between the lines I guess.

HA! I didn't even catch the whole (prove Noods innocent thing) LMAO!

Also, if the mafia was "controling" the voting...why would they take one of there own...their LEADER at that?
They made a simple slip up and now they are trying to cover things up really well.... I am in no way saing noods is absolutley innocent I am just trying to think in different avenues just in case she does come back innocent.

Ok I still want someone to explain to me how Kash can be an ES? She was THE FIRST VOTE on Wycco, prior to her, there was no case on him. There is no way the ES would feel confident enough in their game to lynch their LEADER on Day 2! It just doesn't work like that. Yes they will lynch each other sometimes to clear their names, but I just can't for the love of Mafia, see any End Game of that strategy that benefits them.

She's pushing the envelope, as are the majority of the players BTW, because of Noods ties to Wycco, the Dead and known leader of the ES's. I'm all for looking for other suspects but you are really confuzzling me. Now I expect you will come back with another post saying me and Kash are working together or I'm protecting her or whatever, so I'll beat you to the punch. Kash is probably the strongest lead we have on a confirmed Innocent, I tend to lean towards those I believe I can trust.

From the game sI have played yes they are pretty laid back, Rocker more so than Annie. When you put pressure on them they tend to speak up. Thus the reason I voted for Annie early.

Glad I worry you since I have you leaning strongly ES. And I'm sorry my posts are not up to your quality standards. I will try to be more concise tomorrow when I vote for you.

List of suspects:
Noodles: Connections to Wycco, good chance of Day 1 distancing votes. (8/10)
Rich: Defensive of Noodles, refuses to see why Kash is mostly cleared. (8/10)
Annie: Quiet, also doesn't get why Kash is Mostly cleared, seems to want to go against the grain. (6/10)
MC: Confuses me entirely, I see reasons for and against possible Evil behaviors. (6/10)
DD: Just quieter than normal, but may have RL issues like I did earlier. (5/10)
Rocker: Who knows for sure. Watching for now. (5/10)
When did I say you worry me? Now you say you will definately be voting me tomorrow....who is being confusing now? In BOLD...she was the first on him and he turned up evil...I get that...why would a teammate do this....I dk, maybe she was going to change later but whe she seen he was doomed kept her vote there and started building a case agauinst noods....just a thought. I have read through her posts and am gong both ways on this really.
 
Last game, I led the charge on jpap, twice. I had everyones complete trust at the time, except one person. That is because I was investigated. When the investigation was made public, then AND ONLY then did the rest of the town no longer trust me. We felt we could lose a teamate because of the format being able to gain a member.

It would have worked if it was not me leading the charge. I was investigated right out the gate. If we could have waited a bit and maybe used a lower profile player, I think it would have worked. If I would not have been pronounced evil last game or would have claimed to been the seer, I think we would have won.

In this format the players that have the investigations CAN NOT go public, if they do and they get hit, the game is over. There is one player left that can investigate and if they are hit, the game is over. We can not rely on their help this game.

I do not think it is out of the relm of possibilities that evil will kill a teamate or even lead the charge. So Wycco was the leader, big deal, now the team has to each send in their own PM. Dr Gene used his special power. I also think there is a vial that turns someone out there.

It would be a bold move. I don't think it happened, but it is not impossible. That is why I will keep an extra eye on Kash if noods comes back innocent.
 
My first meeting finally ended and trying to catch up. You know I am becoming less and less trusting of Kashta. Yes, she was the first one to vote for Wycco, the known Dr Gene, however I also noted that Wycco posted another thread yesterday stating that he was headed out of town to Florida. Perhaps the evil team new he would not have the available time to devote to the team so they decided to lead the charge to take him out thus giving them all a place to hide.....She has pushed so hard to prove me scum and has spent much time and pages to do so. When you get tonite's resutls I would suggest looking at her in a new light.....

And as far as me being connected to Wycco as several of you have mentioned; the only connection there is was him saying that I was leaning innocent. I do not see how this can be considered a connection! Puleeeze! I would also like to add that I believe it was LG that took that little comment and blew it out of proportion. A conventient tool, with Kashta's help, for the evil team to take down another townie, probably hoping to get the second Bio Engineer in the process......

More after I read over a few more things......also, in regards to me trying to help, I have stated what I see, in the small amount of time that I have had. Sorry it has not been sufficient in some's eyes.
 
just checking after another meeting but unfortuantely do not have time to post anything of value. too busy here at work. Hopefully there will be something to talk about by the time I get on this evening...........
 
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