Mafia #57: The Great Mafia War- The Game

[ZSandmann]

Had you simply explained your self earlier, this wouldn't have been an issue at all. I took one sentence to do it in fact. I don't think there was anything blown out of proportion. Seeing as how 3 people got the same impression from what you wrote, perhaps it wasn't reading comprehension that was the problem here.

OMGUS

I'm unsure of why you say OMGUS at the end of your post, adding you to a Day 2 suspect list is hardly voting for you. In regards to the rest of your post, I explained myself to the level I thought was needed, I'll be sure to dumb it down from now on. "You can lead a horse to water but you can't make it drink" applies here I believe. Just because three people got the same impression doesn't make it an accurate impression. This game is about deception, both being deceptive and observing it when you see it. I believe you and Woodward are being deceptive, so you go on my list. Is this clear?

 

[ZSandmann]

I retract my vote on Zsandmann

Unclear writing isn't a crime.

Unless it is.

 

[OgreMkV]

Ogre, you are correct, this IS interesting..... your vote isn't making much sense to me because in this game, Ice IS an innocent. Of course his suspecting and voting is going to hold some kind of credibility. If anything, he'd actually been looking for clues instead of the mafia who are trying to start small fires on innocents to lead the town around in circles.

For now, Ogre.... you are looking like the next mafia to go..... say hi to RB for me

I vote to lynch Ogre

Huh? John is the one being quoted here DD. John said that Ice was interested in Luv so John voted for Luv.

After a few posts John said, "We also let him lead the charge on lynching all sorts of innocents." (in regards to Ice).

So John believes that Ice leads the charge on lynching a lot of innocents, but he's still willing to follow Ice's lead.

Sorry, but that just sounds too fishy to me.

Zaffy is my next top pick for mafianess... just for the stinky thing.

 

[mostlycichlids]

Ok, well I have to go again. Just to clairify...my retract on Z does not "clear" him in my mind but after reading his response I do believe that is why he said it and really don't see him saying something like that if he was mafia.

Before I go I have to say the ones who make me wonder the most at this point would have to be Luv, Zaff, Annie. Rocker and MC have my attention for really just posting and going...but I have done that plenty of times when playing (just didn't have the time to post) so I am not really willing to vote either of them at this point.

What do you mean by "make me wonder"? Suspects, teams, what...and how have I drawn you "attention" by not posting? You are posting more than usual but feally just posting and running too IMO....Just curious where you are coming from and if you have a list that can actually help us out?

I still saw nothing much different about Rb's play. He mostly post strange comments and rarely answers any questions directed at him. He does this reguardless of being mafia or innocent. Rb was playing like Rb. I did not see any effort from anyone to save Rb. I am wondering if he was even in contact with his team or if the other vote leader was on the same team. I would have expected some type of movement from his team.

I am glad Rb came up as mafia. I am unwilling to clear anyone due to their vote on Rb, as I saw no effort to save him.

I think the hit on Ice is odd. Ice would have been a suspect soon enough, just for the fact of not being hit yet if not anything else. IMO, the mafia would have wanted to keep Ice around a little longer.

I vote to lynch OgreMvK

JL in regards to this post, I agree RB was playing like RB. What has me worried is that you doubt he was in contact with his team....I doubt if RB would not be in contact with his team. Why would his team try and save him, at that point it would look stupidly obvious if they tried a move like this, don't ya think? Why do you think either mafia team would want ICE around...and why do you say he would of been "a suspect soon enough". The last quote has me worried about you.

Also Ice was pretty sure about Luv.

I retract my vote on Ogre and vote to lynch LuvBugz.

I was thinking about switching earlier, but then Ice switched to Rb.

If Ogre is mafia, he will melt down. I can see Luv wanting to have Ice hit.

The random voting in this game in general has me puzzled....I would think you would have gave a better explanation esp. after your thoughts in the post before....what are your views on ICE at this point now we know he is innocent? I don't see Ogre as mafia and agree with you that luv is playing very careful compared to her normal style....I think her team is telling her to lay low...but a more eloberate explanation would be helpful.

Great job town! I hate that we lost Ice especially now that we KNOW he was innocent.

What do you think Pap meant by "not exactly who they intended…but they'll take it."?

Is anyone getting ANYTHING from the journalist posts?

Z...why do you say "Ice was the target of both teams" only one team gets a hit right?

Great job town! I hate that we lost Ice especially now that we KNOW he was innocent. Why did you bold the "KNOW"? How about your thoughts on the journalists posts....this is the second or third time you have brought it up....why? I think it is a clue, I have also looked at the votes...nothing matches up really. Maybe they are targeting the other mafia team?

Wow these early Nights are throwing me for a loop. Looks like Ice was the target of both Mafia groups. Wonder why he made them so nervous? Really hope you stinky heads, lol, start taking each other out soon.

I still don't like the late run on Rb even though he was scum, it proves nothing of innocence in a two Evils game. I'm sticking with my vote for now.

I vote to lynch Annie

I am leaning the same thought process!

im going with my gut on this one and going with ogre.

I vote to lynch ogre.

Why?

The one thing I will comment on is LuvBugz Night one. She said RBishoped looked suspicious and then followed up with a random vote. As if trying to distance herself but not wanting to risk voting him out.

I'll probably change during the day- but for now...

I vote to lynch LuvBugz.

Luv is just not playing like Luv this game...very quiet, not too defensive and laying very low....I agree, staying under the radar for sure!

I vote to lynch Ogre.

I think Ogre's are smelly, and apparently so does the journalist. I'm glad we killed RB, we can at least say I'm not on that team right?

Is this a clue to what LG has been asking about the journalists? Are you implying you are on the other team and that Ogre was supposed to be the hit from your team cause thats what it sounds like to me.?

I looked through all the day one posts, looking for some reference to "stinky" or something similar. I am not seeing anything. I was hoping that maybe there was something to it because the journalist used the same words twice in a row, but I am not finding anything. I do need to go back and read before I vote.

I knew Wycco was gonna bring that crap up again. Yes, I didn't vote for RB the first day eventhough he second vote on Dawg was suspicious. It was so early on. There were tons of us to chose from. Most of us were placing random votes with random crazy reasons. I didn't know if it was really vote worthy at the time. It did catch my attention, but I was kinda waiting to see if anything else happened throughout the day. I didn't make it back to the puter before nightfall, so my vote stuck. Seriously, I STILL don't feel like RB showed THAT much scumminess. I think luck played a little bit in the role that we actually hit mafia this time around. You still don't feel he was scummy and isint it almost always luck that the innocent team gets a mafia hit?

There hasn't been much to go on, on all accounts. There are two mafia teams which are voting to wipe out each other as well as any townies that get in their way. I don't think at all whomever did vote to lynch RB makes them auto innocent. I think the other team would easily be hiding in votes on him. Is this why you voted random or maybe you knew there were already enough votes to take out an opposing mafia team?


I still think there is something fishy going on with JL, Ogre, and Annie. Of course, we need to keep our eyes on those who vote and run. Like I said before, I will go back and reread, maybe even pull up some quotes.

What is fishy about these three? Come on we want answers? I have them as split mafia/innocent!

 

[mostlycichlids]

For now I retract my vote on JL

 

[johnlarson66]

In a recent game, I was mafia and was not around the first day, but was the following. I routinly put off hitting Ice as I thought he was good to have around for the mafia. He is not too good not to get fooled, no one is. By him being in the game, he was a suspect. We also let him lead the charge on lynching all sorts of innocents. But I don't have any sense.

Here is my quote that now has given Ogre a reason besides OMGUS to vote for me. This was in response to Ogre stating this - "Ice is one of the best players. If he's not mafia, then any mafia player with any sense wants him gone ASAP."

When I have been mafia and not on the same team of Ice, I have not wanted him gone ASAP - nor do I want the "best players" gone. Even the "best players" get fooled. Anyone that has been mafia with me know that. I use hits to cause misdirection. I also get some sort of twisted kick off of fooling those that I respect. I respect Ice.

I think Ice was hit because someone was afraid of him.

 

[AnniesNotOK]

I never asked you for a response so no I wouldn't be questioning anything. Guilt forcing you to think you are reading things you aren't?

I said I agreed with your logic and asked Annie to respond. I wanted him and others to think my vote could be going his way. All the while knowing myself it was so flawed and weak of a reason I wouldn't touch it with a 10 foot pole.

Is this the patented "Ice Trap"???

What do you mean by "make me wonder"? Suspects, teams, what...and how have I drawn you "attention" by not posting? You are posting more than usual but feally just posting and running too IMO....Just curious where you are coming from and if you have a list that can actually help us out?

JL in regards to this post, I agree RB was playing like RB. What has me worried is that you doubt he was in contact with his team....I doubt if RB would not be in contact with his team. Why would his team try and save him, at that point it would look stupidly obvious if they tried a move like this, don't ya think? Why do you think either mafia team would want ICE around...and why do you say he would of been "a suspect soon enough". The last quote has me worried about you.

The random voting in this game in general has me puzzled....I would think you would have gave a better explanation esp. after your thoughts in the post before....what are your views on ICE at this point now we know he is innocent? I don't see Ogre as mafia and agree with you that luv is playing very careful compared to her normal style....I think her team is telling her to lay low...but a more eloberate explanation would be helpful.

Great job town! I hate that we lost Ice especially now that we KNOW he was innocent. Why did you bold the "KNOW"? How about your thoughts on the journalists posts....this is the second or third time you have brought it up....why? I think it is a clue, I have also looked at the votes...nothing matches up really. Maybe they are targeting the other mafia team?

I am leaning the same thought process!

Why?

Luv is just not playing like Luv this game...very quiet, not too defensive and laying very low....I agree, staying under the radar for sure!

Is this a clue to what LG has been asking about the journalists? Are you implying you are on the other team and that Ogre was supposed to be the hit from your team cause thats what it sounds like to me.?

What is fishy about these three? Come on we want answers? I have them as split mafia/innocent!

MC i realize you find this game borderline uninteresting, but remember when you posted a vote for Ice yesterday with no reason whatsoever the bolted??

Random ridiculous ramblings MC. Why did you vote for Ice again????

By the way, I agree with you that the journalists posts are clues. It even says so in the rules.

Smelly heads is the clue. Welcome to the game.

Ogres are smelly. Apparently, so are rolling rocks.

I am concerned with JL not commenting on the clues. What do you think he/means by "smelly heads" John???

 

[ZSandmann]

I'm not putting any weight on a smelly or stinky heads comment, there are just too many ways to interpret it. Lots of things are smelly. Now if the next headline says "Lynch the guy from Shrek" you may have something.

 

[johnlarson66]

Is this the patented "Ice Trap"???




MC i realize you find this game borderline uninteresting, but remember when you posted a vote for Ice yesterday with no reason whatsoever the bolted??

Random ridiculous ramblings MC. Why did you vote for Ice again????

By the way, I agree with you that the journalists posts are clues. It even says so in the rules.

Smelly heads is the clue. Welcome to the game.

Ogres are smelly. Apparently, so are rolling rocks.

I am concerned with JL not commenting on the clues. What do you think he/means by "smelly heads" John???

I really have no input on the clues. I did not take the "smelly heads" to mean anything. Maybe they will have something more later.

It is odd you would point me out as not commenting on the clues, there are many people other people that have not commented on the clues. Why are you only concerned with me?

 

[mostlycichlids]

Is this the patented "Ice Trap"???




MC i realize you find this game borderline uninteresting, but remember when you posted a vote for Ice yesterday with no reason whatsoever the bolted??

Random ridiculous ramblings MC. Why did you vote for Ice again????

By the way, I agree with you that the journalists posts are clues. It even says so in the rules.

Smelly heads is the clue. Welcome to the game.

Ogres are smelly. Apparently, so are rolling rocks.

I am concerned with JL not commenting on the clues. What do you think he/means by "smelly heads" John???

Why did you quote everything and only ask me why I voted I voted ICE...even after I said it was random....I have been busy and not following the game at all...I did not want to UD, make sense annie?!