Mafia 61: The Gunslinger - Game Thread

Well since you posted a list with more than two players JB I wont feel so bad doing it myself...

Kash
Zs
Razz
TRS
Agass

Concerning Dawg...if either Kash or Z are mafia he's almost automatically an innocent. If neither are mafia he would likely shoot back to one of my top suspects.
I'm curious if your list is in any order. It seems odd that Z went from not on your radar to second (if it's ordered) based on the post you made about him. I'm still back and forth on him.

It's interesting and still a little disconcerting that your list is almost identical to mine... I've got to do a little more reading...
 
I dunno JB. I sometimes wonder if my occasionally streaky posting looks odd to others. But then again I actually try to contribute to the town...

I have too many names flying around, each with its own suspicion.

There's a difference between occasionally streaky, and a series of double taps spaced pretty evenly apart.

I've gone back and looked through your posts Jpap. And I have to say that I can find nothing to **** you or clear you. I have my suspicions, but I can't get over the fact that we're coming to the same conclusions from different avenues. And from what I can see, you are seemingly adding to the town. If you are mafia, you're playing well.

All that being said, I narrowed down my list a bit more. Not based on who I thought to be innocent, but based on the MOST LIKELY guilty. I'm happy looking at:
Kash/Zsand (I think it's one or the other here)
Ag (I'm still feeling pretty confident here).

This will most likely be my last post tonight, and I have another long day tomorrow... not nearly as long as today. So I don't know if I'll be around again before Ice's shot.

After all my back and forth, I guess I see Kash or Zsand as the next best bet. If I had to pick one, I think I would still go with Zsand.

Make a good choice Ice!
 
I'm curious if your list is in any order. It seems odd that Z went from not on your radar to second (if it's ordered) based on the post you made about him. I'm still back and forth on him.

It's interesting and still a little disconcerting that your list is almost identical to mine... I've got to do a little more reading...

Nope, no order.
 
I'm leaning on being a bit risky and shooting TRS next. For a player who has an uncanny way of picking up evil vibe he has been way off and now that Kash is being looked at he dumps her.
I want to make Kash sweat some more too.

I really appreciate the investigative posts guys. Actually made me feel better about Jpap. Or did it.....
 
Oh and about my shot....Its my wifes Bday so depending on what we're going to do and when I get off work probably around 5 or after 8.
 
:popcorn:
 
The only thing that keeps bothering me is if Kash and JPap are both innocent and we are all going after each other while the mafia lays low. I can understand why you don't want to take yourself out Ice but I think Kash is a crucial link at this point and we need to know what she is. That should clear up quite a bit.

If she turns up innocent I'm sure the finger will be pointed at me but I would have to fall back on the record of my list. I'm 2 for 2 and I don't think most people really believe that a mafia would list so many people who are supposedly on their team. I would rather see you hit Z over TRS at this point but it is obviously your call, Ice.
 
Wow, that was a good shot there iceman. Sorry I havent been that active, school and wrestling.

I would shoot jb right now. I dont think Z is mafia, but thats just me. I dont usually like going against the town, but he doesnt seem mafia type to me.

You know Ice, I missed this post before but when I went back to reread I can see why you want to shoot TRS. This post makes no sense. Why shoot JB "now"???
 
I would rather see you hit Z over TRS at this point but it is obviously your call, Ice.

and let me clear this up before it gets blown out of proportion...If Ice doesn't want to shoot Kash or JPap right now I was suggesting Z over TRS. But with his comments about JB I can now see the validity of a shot on him. The only problem with it is if he is innocent he will take out JB according to his post.
 
Or you could shoot me and then I shoot Kash but that would be a quick way to lose two townies...I guess whichever you decides helps.

So you have Kash as a suspect but at the same time you're saying if you shot her she'd turn up innocent?

My reluctance to make a full suspect list came because I couldn't figure out between Jbradt and Dawg or Pappy and Zsand, which I posted about. I ended up leaving all 4 names unresolved and listed Annie as my strongest suspect. When I went through the thread again, I felt both you and JB were making weak arguments and it seemed (to me) you were both trying to build cases on people who weren't as suspicious as you two made them appear. I decided from the early posts that Pappy and Zsand were actually helping the town and addressed the issues raised by Dawg and Jbradt in the replies they posted. I also noticed Lab Rat seemed believable while those who were accusing/suspecting her seemed to be more suspicious. (That part I posted earlier in my response to Red.)

So those are the 3 names I cleared at that time... Pappy, Zsand, Lab Rat. And I put those names on my townie list, along with me and Ice. There's the answer to the question you asked earlier, Dawg, while I was posting on other things.


Now.. Zaffy's role has been confirmed so we have new information to use for comparison. Ice is either going to shoot me next or somebody else (who'll also likely shoot me right away). Either way... my top suspects before Ice shot Zaffy were Dawg and JB, as I've posted. This may stay the same or it might change. If Ice continues to wait, as it seems he's going to now... I have some time to figure out why he trusts the two people I don't.. to see if Zaffy's mafia role changes anything else.. and so on. If the gun gets passed to me I have two targets in mind.. but I'll wait to hear responses and input from the others before shooting either. I'm llisted on most of the suspect lists now and the way that changes once my role is revealed (or someone else if Ice doesn't shoot me) will be very important to consider before I shoot at anyone.

While following this thread I also have to work on something else for a meeting tomorrow. I'll keep at this as I can and post whatever else I think is helpful as I go.

To question the bolded part. How did you clear Jpap and Z to innocent based on the assumption Lab is innocent when looking at the lists both Jpap and Z had Lab as a suspect?

Now that you know Zaffys role and you know I trust JB and Dawg, who would be your other 2 choices? What does Zaffys list tell you?



I know Z thinks Kash is innocent. Anyone else think Kash is innocent?
 
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