Mafia 65: Masons and Mafia (Game Thread)

[Fishfriend1]

FF, besides me, who else do you suspect.

Kash and Ice. the three of u would make an unstoppable team.

Nice shootin Dag :grinyes:

I was really ready to vote for either FF or Tex today but I will definitely have to reconsider given recent events. Lab was right about Dag was she right about FF and Tex too?

If neither are mafia then I'm willing to bet the rest of the team piled on Razz at the end. That would leave Kash, Zaffy, DD, and Z as suspect. Not sure if I would throw Annie in there, he certainly hasn't said much...but he did bring up the fact that the whole Razz lynch could have been started by the mafia. I wouldn't doubt that Ice could make an "executive decision" and just urge the mafia to go along with it. Just seems rather risky.

DD, not so sure, only if 1 of my suspects come up innocent. Zaffy, has been really quite so i cant help there. Sz, maybe maybe not, hes pretty neutral to me. But then that alone can endanger him.

I agree. I think Kash clearing me is way off base. If anything I think the events have the oppisite effect. I also agree that me voting to lynch Razz does not clear me. I have shown in the past a willingness to lynch teamates to win.

I think that both you and Kash are evil and she was attempting to defend u. That or she was frameing u. For now I retract my vote on JL

 

[ZSandmann]

FF was Dag's top suspect and really his only suspect. Maybe Tex. Now knowing that Dag was a mafia goon, I have FF leaning innocent.

I am also okay on holding off on Tex.

Any thoughts on Kash or DD?

That's a plus for FF I suppose, but no clear. Some of the things I have quoted before, in particular the "regretably" post just can't ping my radar anymore than someone just straight up saying they are a mafium.

Why is that behavior at all surprising coming from FF? Voting FF for wording is like voting Kash for being too wordy. When has FF EVER been clear?

Speaking of Kash, that post about JL being in the clear makes little sense.

You both fit the bill for when I think the mafia decided to sacrifice Razz too.

I haven't played with FF much before, I think they have mainly been in games I have sat out. So while KAsh being wordy is a given, I can't equate that to FF playing.... what ever it is FF plays, heh.

As far as Razz goes, you're right, Razz was obvious scum, so no one is clear that voted.

What urgency?

I am just unsure how you can have FF as a suspect at this point.

There were five or six posts that all started "Z, hey Z" or such right after I stepped away. Seemed like you and FF wanted me to say something quickly. Sorry if I misread that, I didn't check the timestamps to see their true proximity.

Tex I could take or leave, but FF I still feel is being very scummy. If we want to lynch Kash based on the bizzaro "JL is clear" post, and Lab's list then I am up for that, it worked well on Razz when we reached concensus. The rushed Wiz thing is a whole other kettle of fish.

Here's the thing, with that Hit and the backfire the number of people for a majority is going down which gives the Mafia more power. So sooner is better than later as I said before.

Also, where is everyone else...

 

[Kashta]

Question for you, FF:

When you posted this one evening and then went to bed......

wow, this has been a great day one so far. Lets see, a train starter on jpap by JL, Zaffy defending jpap, and LR already asking about it all. Wow, am i the only one to see somethin in that?

darn, too late to edit, add this to my previous post plz.

and JL going all out to say that the mafia wont try to stat a train on someone they know is innocent. After all we can never forget the chat b4 game bit, can we?

GOOD NIGHT EVERYONE

b4 i start talking just hear myself he he he.

.....why did you then repost the exact same statement (verbatim) in your first post the following morning?

wow, this has been a great day one so far. Lets see, a train starter on jpap by JL, Zaffy defending jpap, and LR already asking about it all. Wow, am i the only one to see somethin in that? And JL going all out to say that the mafia wont try to stat a train on someone they know is innocent. After all we can never forget the chat b4 game bit, can we?

 

[Kashta]

Correction: The word "statement" should be plural.... "statements."

 

[johnlarson66]

Kash, care to explain how I am cleared?

 

[johnlarson66]

Question for you, FF:

When you posted this one evening and then went to bed......







.....why did you then repost the exact same statement (verbatim) in your first post the following morning?

Kash, FF clearly does not know how to multi quote or get quotes together. He was posting his original post with dags response to it. He was quoting himself - not repeating himself.

It is real scary when I understand what FF is saying.

 

[ZSandmann]

JL understands FF? - It's a trap! /Ackbar

Also, note to self, teach FF how to multiquote after this is over...

 

[Kashta]

Guys, it's a little early yet for you to start nit picking my comments to death. So far, what I've posted are some vague impressions I got based on skimming through parts of this thread. I'm not even committing to them yet as solid opinions or even claiming they were worth posting at this point.

I also intend to clarify, revise, or even discard the calls I've made this far after I get through this thread today from start to finish. What I read through quickly at different times before now wasn't even done in order and I skipped over whole sections of the thread. There's a lot that I haven't been over yet and much (I expect) that exists which will change my mind on a different things.

If you want to hang me for posting sketchy, premilinary views.. go ahead. But even that might work out better to get me killed off if you wait until I post more declarative opinions. Check back again later.. I'm sure not everyone is going to agree with everything I'm going to say or do.

Originally, I was leaning JL as highly suspicious because I thought Lab Rat was trying to protect him. It was a hunch based on that alone (having glossed over most other comments made by John) that lead me to believe Lab Rat and Johnlarson were both mafia. So when Labby flipped mason at her death... there went the suspicious hunch I'd held against John.

Now.. whether John is, in fact, good or evil is something I'm not going to figure out until I do a LOT more reading today and start piecing all the details together.

Even my current vote on DD is based on an impression she gave me early in the thread and not having seen anything else from her (so far). If I find something I consider significant to change my mind about DD, then I'll retract that vote and zero in on whomever else I believe is a better suspect... later today or tonight.

 

[johnlarson66]

Kash, care to ask me any questions.

I want to know more about your melt down the other day. I still have not seen in this game where anyone had put you and the wiz as a team or implied you were talking outside the thread. I had called the wiz FF's dad and Lab laughed at it. Ice had asked the wiz where you were and I agreed. The melt down was over the top.

I keep expecting to see more posts from you, but the posts I do see make little to no sense. At this point I understand FF more than you.

You almost missed the day one vote and still have not posted much after that.

Who are your suspects Kash?

 

[johnlarson66]

JL understands FF? - It's a trap! /Ackbar

Also, note to self, teach FF how to multiquote after this is over...

It was jpap that cracked the FF code earlier in the game.