Uhhhh, FF...you're not in your team's private chat, this is the game thread. :duh: :rofl:
Mafia 66: Farmers versus the Railroad - the play
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Uhhhh, FF...you're not in your team's private chat, this is the game thread. :duh: :rofl:
What do you mean by this...why would WE change YOUR lynch (vote???)?
The fact that everything makes sense after two pages of posts is I think what Jb finds to be :bs:
as do I...
Do you really think it's that likely that not one but 2 experienced players would fall into such newb traps? Kash is good, but come on...
And I've got to go back to the odds. I think Kash estimated 3-4 RR scum. I don't remember reading from JL how many there were but this seems a likely estimate to me. The numbers just don't seem to make it plausible to me.
Yes, I do give you credit to believe that your play could have changed, and if you're innocent... sorry; but something just seems off to me.
You have to promise that...
Two words... Occham's razor. The simple solution is that innocents with histories are getting into it.
You don't think it makes sense that Kash could have known from the start that Noods is scum if Kash is an immigrant worker and was TOLD Noods is scum?
If I had that sort of info, you bet I'd try to draw out who is going to defend Noods. No sense in lynching Noods the first night, gotta see who is affiliated with her. As it turns out, Coler jumped right in there to defend her. He probably did not think it would seem scummy when he did it. And the way it's looking, the rest of you guys aren't seeing what he's done. I don't think my theory is abstract at all.
Noods didn't fall into a trap, she slipped up and stumbled in on her own. My thought is Coler didn't think anyone would think it was scummy for him to defend her (as it was very early in the game when it happened) and he took the opportunity to turn things on Kash. Which it seems he has been successful in doing...
What seems off to you, JB? Are you in a scum role, is that whats throwing your game off? :laugh:
And I do promise that I am not communicating outside this thread. As far as the Occam's razor, I'll argue that what I have proposed is a very simple solution. It's no elaborate scumspiracy. It's a very plausible reason for Kash to be sure Noods is scum and for her to have posted what she posted to try and draw out Noods' teammates.
You're basing that off of the low chance that Kash is an immigrant worker which cannot be confirmed until Kash dies. That's the problem. I'm not going to play the odds. I'm going to play based off of what's been said not hypothetical theories, especially when Kash has appeared scummiest to me already.
Dangerdoll
Global Moderator
ok, from the whole Noods and Kash thing... I can totally see Noods as popping into the thread all excited because she hasn't played in a while and racing to be the first poster... some folks have fun with that race, I like to think Noods has the fun type of personality that would enjoy this race too... as far as her getting her PM and zipping to the thread to post and overzealously doing so in error because she's scum just doesn't really add up in my book though... I mean, don't you think scum would probably be tied up PMing each other, trying to form a home base or other message board to get aquainted? I am not buying the whole Noods posted early so that is scum scenerio... just doesn't add up for me... Yes, Noods has been gone for a few games but she is not a newbie in the respect where she will make an error such as this... just don't see it happening. As far as her acting all scattered or loopy or whatever that smilie means, well, if I was attacked and persecuted after a long hiatus, was voted on and accused, I don't think I would act any differently... and I will even venture to say I am not sure any of you would either.
Does this mean I believe Kash is scum... not really. I mean, I still suspect her as I do everyone else but Kash is doing what Kash does. She find something and drives at it. The fact that it was from page 1, post 1 bothers me... but on the other hand, I am not so sure Kash would go diving straight with both feet forward.... it seems too obvious. However, the retracting vote on Noods and her contradictions are clear. Kash has me as usual... on the fence... I mean, it could be that she's pushes too hard on everyone and there is some degree of suspicion to be found with the most innocent of the innocent but is it a false suspicion, are the contradictions a key point? Or is she manipulating the game... Kash certainly does a number on the brain cells.
As far as Coler, I dunno, I think people are not considering that this was all started very early in day one and Coler knew this point... and now he's getting demolished for it. One thing's for certain, after this day 1 is over, the findings will certainly show us something.
As far as your main post, your thoughts seem like they are all together however, I don't think you are looking at the whole picture. You are acting as if you know a little something from the inside, you seem a little more confident than I am used to seeing... usually spells scum if you ask me... then another thing that bothers me is the way you say you placed a vote to get reactions... really? That's just what Kash did... funny... huh The dilemma... are you following Kash's style because you are trying to blend in with an innocent? not sure...
Who do I see as most obvious, Labby... If I were ready to vote, I believe my vote would be headed your way but I have a full day yet... no reason for it... I think I'd like to hear a little more from you...
Does this mean I believe Kash is scum... not really. I mean, I still suspect her as I do everyone else but Kash is doing what Kash does. She find something and drives at it. The fact that it was from page 1, post 1 bothers me... but on the other hand, I am not so sure Kash would go diving straight with both feet forward.... it seems too obvious. However, the retracting vote on Noods and her contradictions are clear. Kash has me as usual... on the fence... I mean, it could be that she's pushes too hard on everyone and there is some degree of suspicion to be found with the most innocent of the innocent but is it a false suspicion, are the contradictions a key point? Or is she manipulating the game... Kash certainly does a number on the brain cells.
As far as Coler, I dunno, I think people are not considering that this was all started very early in day one and Coler knew this point... and now he's getting demolished for it. One thing's for certain, after this day 1 is over, the findings will certainly show us something.
Lab, you say "people" were so quick to defend Noods.... do you usually use the term "people" when talking about 1 person? All I see mentioned her and questioned is Coler.
this is the second time where you are using a leading sentence in the hopes of leading one to believe you are innocent.
As far as your main post, your thoughts seem like they are all together however, I don't think you are looking at the whole picture. You are acting as if you know a little something from the inside, you seem a little more confident than I am used to seeing... usually spells scum if you ask me... then another thing that bothers me is the way you say you placed a vote to get reactions... really? That's just what Kash did... funny... huh The dilemma... are you following Kash's style because you are trying to blend in with an innocent? not sure...
Who do I see as most obvious, Labby... If I were ready to vote, I believe my vote would be headed your way but I have a full day yet... no reason for it... I think I'd like to hear a little more from you...
Dangerdoll
Global Moderator
I wanted to add in there about Noods posting before the call for game start... I don;t know about Noods but when I come to the boards, I click on the link at the top that says "New Posts"... this lists all the posts that have happened since my last visit in chronological order. Who's to say Noods doesn't do this and upon seeing the mafia thread, immediately went in and posted... no one even asked her how she came to the board first... no, Kash went nosediving right in... just another thought...
Does this clear Noods for me, no.... but since Kash is trying so hard to come up with reasons of how this has to be obvious scum tell, there are sill a list of reasons why this is just innocent posting being over analyzed and possibly twisted.
Does this clear Noods for me, no.... but since Kash is trying so hard to come up with reasons of how this has to be obvious scum tell, there are sill a list of reasons why this is just innocent posting being over analyzed and possibly twisted.
Quite the day one. I do not think Noodles is scum because of the early post, her defense of it does bear scrutiny. Right now i am thinking no but we shall see.
Kash has posted a lot, got on Noodles then moved on to Coler. I do not see a townie making hay I see a scum raking the muck.
LR does seem awfully sure but she usually is on her own theories, they are not always right but she is sure.
I may not be own tomorrow at all. Depends how the day goes. I vote to lynch LR.
Kash has posted a lot, got on Noodles then moved on to Coler. I do not see a townie making hay I see a scum raking the muck.
LR does seem awfully sure but she usually is on her own theories, they are not always right but she is sure.
I may not be own tomorrow at all. Depends how the day goes. I vote to lynch LR.
As of now, yes, Coler is the main one I suspect for his defense of Noods. Obviously others are defending her, letting her punch her "Noods card", etc. That hasn't struck me as scummy enough to confidently vote for someone.
Please point out where I said I placed a vote to get a reaction...I never said that. I voted for Coler because I believe he and Noods are scummates. I thought I was pretty clear about that. I'm not following Kash's style at all, I simply see what she was trying to do and acknowledge that.
What more do you want to hear from me? I've put my thoughts out there for everyone to see. I would be very happy voting Noods as well, though that would lose the advantage the town has of seeing how her teammates interact with her.
Dangerdoll
Global Moderator
who are you trying to convince, Lab.... ? 3 posts of claiming innocence in a way.... 2 of which are the same... don't like it now, never liked it.... I learned way back in the earliest games that those who continually profess this way, usually have a lot more to hide. I suppose your response post will be to remind me there are 2 communicating teams.... yeap, heard that in earlier games too.
