Mafia 66: Farmers versus the Railroad - the play

[jbradt]

You think he would have been able to do that without posting in the thread?

 

[the wizard]

Here is what Kash really said -

:rofl:

 

[Lab_Rat]

I'm starting to wonder if the scum team went something like this:

Day 1:
Noods
Wiz
DD
FF/Coler/???

Night 1: DD UDs, Annie is turned

Day 2:
Noods
Wiz
FF/Coler/???
Annie

Night 2: Noods lynched, Dag turned

Day 3:
Wiz
FF/Coler/???
Annie
Dag/???

Not sure about FF in there, it could be someone else. It could be Coler. Dag may not have been turned last night.

Anyone care to comment or change any of that around?

 

[jpappy789]

:rofl:

Should I just assume you are reading then?

I would think your first priority would be to respond to Lab who you have been focused on since nightfall. Well, you've only made one post since nightfall anyways...

 

[Dagamoth]

You can't hold it against Coler for switching to avoid the noose, anyone who wanted to stay in the game no matter what their role would do the same. That does not make him scum nor innocent. Now I cannot explain why in the world Noods would vote to lynch Kash if Coler is indeed innocent. If I were scum in her spot I would have stayed put and let it go to a coin toss or voted to lynch Coler and discredit what Kash was saying about me. That really bugs me.

Yeah i totally agree with what you said and it's more then bugging me it's straight up pissed me off which is why i have been going so hard at coler. I hadn't really taken into consideration that annie might have just been screwing with my head when she was all over coler being great. if that was case it worked.

 

[Lab_Rat]

Yeah i totally agree with what you said and it's more then bugging me it's straight up pissed me off which is why i have been going so hard at coler. I hadn't really taken into consideration that annie might have just been screwing with my head when she was all over coler being great. if that was case it worked.

I wouldn't put it past Annie to frame Coler like that. I've gone hard against Coler from day 1, then I realized I needed to take a step back and look at the big picture.

Right now I'm not happy with where my vote is. I retract my vote on Coler.

 

[Lab_Rat]

Should I just assume you are reading then?

I would think your first priority would be to respond to Lab who you have been focused on since nightfall. Well, you've only made one post since nightfall anyways...

I think he's too busy trying to twist my words into something he can use against me...having trouble there Wiz?

 

[the wizard]

A swing and a miss from Wiz...I'll break up the quotes so it's easier to read, but it's all from the same post.


Have you not been here the whole game??? I've been trying to sort out scum. I insisted she was an IW to try and keep you guys from voting her out. I wanted her in the game and saw how the scum were twisting everything to get her lynched.



I wanted to keep Noods as known mafia to see how her teammates interacted with her, or if they did at all. A landslide vote would have told us nothing. At least the close vote gave us information, though it may be confusing. It seems like you are choosing not to see the merit in that strategy. I challenged you, for your knee jerk reaction. I was willing to vote Noods if the rest of the town thought it was best.

How many times do I have to say it...I was trying to pull people off of Kash. Did you miss my last post before night 1, where I thought there was a possibility I'd be lynched? I said Noods was scum, I was 90% sure Kash was innocent.

You've avoided my question Wiz...why didn't you jump to save Kash? Your lone vote on DD did absolutely nothing, instead you let an innocent get lynched.


Explained above.



That's just a lie. I said Noods was scum from the start. I completely agreed with Kash and I saw what she was getting at with Coler. In fact, I was the only one who voted for Noods day 1, until it became obvious no one else would do so. So I went back to Coler, whom Kash wanted lynched (and for what I feel was a good reason).



I am flattered you think that I have the skill to pull of such an elaborate scumspiracy (TM). But the idea that I would out Noods on day 1 and know Kash's role and still be scum is just too far out there. No way I could ever make something like that play out. But thank you for your vote of confidence in my playing skills.




I guess you missed me explaining earlier why I was trying to figure out the townie PRs as well as the scum. Let me say it again, just for you. Do you remember last game? Where the entire Masons team was labeled as scum? I don't want to make that mistake and I need to know who to align myself with for voting reasons. I want to vote with the secret council but if I can't figure out who is council and who is scum then I can't very well do that now can I?

It's no fixation, it's something I mentioned later in the day on day 2. I've been consistently trying to find scum this entire game. If you can't see that can I suggest an optometrist?

Yes you did, as I stated before, you repeatedly posted in the game thread a townie PR. This is never pro town no matter how much you try to sugar coat it.

After Kashta's role was revealed, Noodles as "pocket mafia" was useless.

Let's also remember that the scum turned a farmer. If we had let Noodles live we would have been down by 2 in the numbers. (I didn't include the UD as we don't know DD's role though I still feel that she was scum.)

I have answered this question already, several times.

Why do you and your teammates keep asking the same questions of the same people?

Here is another example.

Wiz you are pointing at me for being on Kash's side and voting with her yet you yourself didn't even try to save her.

Why would I jump from someone that I am sure is scum to save someone who's role I don't know? You are doing a masterful job of early spin doctoring, and looking more like scum as these posts of yours do nothing for the town but just try to make yourself look blameless.

Can we now move past this question and start looking at something new?

I am saying that Noods voting to lynch you (so voting with Kash, with me, the two people calling her scum) would have discredited both Kash's and my ascertains that she was scum. Before Kash's role was revealed, no one but Dawg and Dag believed either of us from what I can tell. Now which one of us (Kash or I) would have been lynched the next night, I do not know, but I'd bet $100 that one of us would have if you'd shown innocent. It would have bought Noods some breathing room, since it would not have been revealed that Kash had inside information about a RRO (Noods) after night 1.

About your comments with me being turned...where have I wavered? What makes you think I was turned? I've thought you scummy since day 1, and I still think you're scummy. I could see voting for your teammate Annie at this point since I'm pretty sure he's the one who was turned night 1.

You are finally right labby, you haven't wavered which is why I have you as being one of the original RRO's not a farmer that was turned.

I understand being busy irl but from playing previous games with you, when you're a good guy you tend to lay low. Last game for example. When you're scum, you tend to be more vocal. So imagine my concern when you go from quiet Annie to extremely vocal Annie after night 1 when we know someone has been turned. Not to mention, a lot of what you have posted seems like a smoke and mirrors trick to distract, not true digging.


Like this post, for example:

No other way to see it...awful close minded there Annie. I still say a total landslide vote on Noods and we would know a heck of a lot less than we do now. Do you still stand by this statement?

So tell me, how hard am I working to screw the town over? I'm trying to look at all possibilities since I don't want to align myself with the wrong side due to miscommunications.

So you're "sure" either Coler or I am scum. Did you go back and read my day 1 posts? Ask yourself, how did I possibly know that Noods was scum and that Kash was an IW...so when you can answer that, if you're still sure that one of us is scum you'll see it's not me.

As to the bolded part, how in the heck can you say Coler is a "heck of a guy, appears to be working in the town's best interest"? From what I've seen, he's trying to save his neck (fair enough) and just recently has started, from what I can tell, appearing to help the town. At the time you posted this originally, I had seen no pro-town behavior from him. You picked up his fire and brimstone, doom and gloom message and ran with it last night. I could see you doing this to frame him, you're a crafty one...

And Wiz...Wiz accused me right off the bat after Kash was lynched. Conveniently overlooked the fact I was trying to tell you all she was innocent, ignoring the fact I'd been saying Noods was scum from the start, and never answering why he did not jump to tie up the vote in the hopes to save an important innocent player. Wiz had a non-committal, worthless vote day 1. If DD indeed was scum, his lone vote on her could easily be distancing at that point in the game. Scum like, avoid any risk. Noods was outed, let her take the fall. His posts reflect yours in the smoke and mirror sense, without real pro-town substance.

While I am less sure about Coler now, I am pretty sure you and Wiz are working together...

To the part I bolded in labbys post. The only way you could have KNOWN noodles was scum on day 1 and that kashta was innocent would to have been noodles scum mate to begin with.

Answered above

 

[Lab_Rat]

To the part I bolded in labbys post. The only way you could have KNOWN noodles was scum on day 1 and that kashta was innocent would to have been noodles scum mate to begin with.

FALSE! There's that closemindedness showing. There is totally another way and it happens to be what happened.

My bad, I missed that you'd answered the question about your non-committal day 1 vote. Sorry about that. I have no teammates, I gotta make my voting decision all on my own, so idk why you keep saying I have teammates. I have those who I feel I can trust more than others, that's it.

Have fun twisting my words Wiz, it's my bedtime.

 

[the wizard]

FALSE! There's that closemindedness showing. There is totally another way and it happens to be what happened.

My bad, I missed that you'd answered the question about your non-committal day 1 vote. Sorry about that. I have no teammates, I gotta make my voting decision all on my own, so idk why you keep saying I have teammates. I have those who I feel I can trust more than others, that's it.

Have fun twisting my words Wiz, it's my bedtime.

I don't twist words.

I answered the questions you asked.

As it stands right now, my vote will stay on you for all the reasons I have stated.

I would have to see something extremely scummy from someone else to switch my vote.