Mafia #67 - 50/50 -- The Play

[Dagamoth]

I can't believe this has to be pointed out again. :wall: Remember the context, FF is talking to LR. He said IF YOU think I'm scum then invest me. The YOU being LR. Not the scum team.



Since you know how he is soooo well, care to enlighten us as to why he ignored the question I asked him about liking the train on FF?

So asking someone who you don't know isn't mafia to investigate you is completely different from asking the mafia to investigate you? Then later to claim that you meant everyone to investigate? I get it taking a risk asking a random person to investigate you helps the town because uhhhhhhh hrm that person might be mafia. I don't see the benefit there. It could only make logical sense if you are the SB. SB just wants to stay in the game till the end when he would have the chance to kill the last two remaining players. If both sides know you're the SB both sides will avoid putting votes on you.

 

[Dagamoth]

I will admit, I voted FF but thought I had 3 pretty good reasons to do it... and I might have tuned everyone else out because of the constant posting from FF afterward but this has proven to be a big mistake. I admit it.. I was wrong, I went about it in the wrong way and the town has suffered for it. What I am having a problem with though is how your vote is explained... this is all the reason you had to vote for FF? I don't know if this game is the game to be making such wreckless choices in...

As far as the misquote... I think you might be trying to twist it to make it look like that's what happened... but in reality, I guess I wasn't seeing what you are accusing him for.


I can't even believe I am reading this... rich, do you really not know how to multi-quote in all the games you have played?? I am finding it a bit far fatched... what's even more far-fetched is the fact that you are insisting you don't know... kinda like you are trying to play noobie all of a sudden... I am not used to this flip.


yesterday, you were concerned about Labby... and today you are leaning her innocent... what changed your mind? If you are going to answer this with FF being innocent, I thought you didn't care one way or the other on FF... why does it make a difference now??

Keep plucking along, rich...


exactly




actually, you voted FF for garbage originally. Now it looks like you are tagging onto LB's coat tails and trying to act like it was your idea that the whole asking mafia to investigate him was scummy... here's your vote yesterday, it was post #6 in the game:



and then you say this in response to Annie:

and then you say this in response to pappy...

so, to me it seems like you are all over the map with excuses and reasons to justify your voting however, you insist that you have one reason and one reason only...

As far as a list, I am wondering about LB, I still am leaning her a bit scummy... I now have rich on my list and Dag and I am still in question about Kash and being so absent which I feel is in total opposite of what she does while playing for the town.

that is awfully kind of you to forget to post what i was responding to, wow i bet you can't take a post out of context if you do that.

 

[Dagamoth]

I would have trusted this a lot more if he had said it instead of you. Now he can just say the same thing in his own words.

I've been trying to give you the benefit of the doubt because of your questioning and points made today but if Dag dies and shows mafia I will have to pull this post as a defense of him.

I have to agree that I wish i had said it first but I was still catching what i had missed while at school today and responding as i went. pretty much said same thing though.

 

[Dagamoth]

I had already stated in day 1 that he did get scummy and contradict himself. After LR had him under the gun which is exactly what she expected.

for dramatic effect.

If YOU missed it let me know and I will be glad to pull that post and repost it in day 2 for those who refused to see anything but pro town behavior from LR.

Was it not scummy when FF asked someone who for all the knowledge he had could be mafia to investigate him? Assuming that you ignore when he tries to say that he meant both teams afterward?

 

[Dagamoth]

Wrong. It's a numbers game... any known mafia should be dead mafia. As scum, FF's body-weight would have been equal to the body-weight any "more serious threats," as you put it...

I have to agree with Mad on this point. Really if every single mafia would say openly to say that you are scum and each one of them did they could pick off innocents easily. However I think the game would then become a case of "no no i am mafia" just the opposite of what it is now. I just find it kind of funny that if the mafia were to openly let out who they are they could control this game at this point right now.

 

[jbradt]

I'm feeling a little better now, after one of the most violent movies I've ever seen.

Noods is acting very suspicious with the lack of posting. Although given she did say her posting would be sporadic but it's been almost non existent. Her pregame post of I won't be able to post as much could have just worked out very well in her favor as it gives her a reason to lay low.

JB has some really weak reasons for voting for LR which makes me suspect:
I don't like the train.
The way he read the thread LR is twisting words or misunderstood what FF meant by i wish the mafia would investigate me.

I guess I just don't understand how anyone could misunderstand what FF said. HE ASKED FOR MAFIA TO INVESTIGATE HIM. No good can come of that for the town if he is innocent. All they would have to do is send a hit on him and bang he's dead without any suspects.

As for LR I could honestly see her being a mafia who is cutting off the finger to save the hand. But I think she would try using a band aid first instead of the knife.

Dag... how you feelin' about this post now, buddy? Why is it that when calling my reasons weak, you didn't even have the respect to pull the post... you left off a few of my reasons. If it was just the train, that would be weak. Why don't you pull the post where I clearly stated my reasons and re-examine now in public view?

 

[jbradt]

Starting the defense early. How soon to the you will all see posts?

Rich's question to Labby...

You want me to start now, because I can...

Labby's response...

Guess the game's over then, eh?

There's a shocker. You were so right about FF, why not keep going?


WTF? I thought FF got lynched?

I make a joke...

You should quote in context that was clearly a half funny, half serious jab at LR which she responded to.

Well we let LR pretty much run day one, all conversation revolved around her or her stance on FF.

Rich totally overreacts. hmmm...

Obviously you could not see that I was telling the truth. I'll admit, when an idea gets in my head sometimes I run with it too far. I thought I was doing what was best for the town. If I were scum I'd have come up with some elaborate fiasco instead of kicking around FF and his scummy seeming posts.

That's not very pro-town behavior, Labby. Yet you claim to be innocent. Then you come around and implicate me for coming up with "not very pro-town ideas" or some other ****, but in my case it obviously means I'm scum. WTF?

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/double+standard

 

[jbradt]

Sorry, the last quote of Labby's was a separate train of thought...

 

[jbradt]

Because I can't help myself I have to answer this one last post even though I'm already in bed...

Wiz, if that's not the pot calling the kettle black then idk what is. Do you forget how narrowminded and sure of yourself you were last game that I was scum? I did everything I could to try and tell the SC I was an IW without breaking the no RC rule. The scum team got my message as did the farmers. Somehow the SC totally missed it. So I don't think you have much ground to criticize me about being narrowminded. I freely admit that I can get swept up in my theories, it doesn't make me scummy.

And how many times, when I cry that I'm innocent am I actually innocent? I think you'll find it's a vast majority. Again, I'm trying not to default to that, but after a while of getting kicked around like a soccer ball in a world cup match it's where I tend to go when innocent. When I'm scum I simply slide back into the shadows, much easier and safer that way.

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/double+standard

 

[jbradt]

Isn't that the same reason you lynched FF? I think JB has a better grasp so I'm not planning on seeing a bunch of confused posts that incriminate him even more.

When I read JBs posts last night nothing stood out. Seemed the most argumentative part was when Jpap asked him if FF isn't on a team how could be slip and JB admitted to not thinking it all the way thru.Not liking his last post though. How do we not learn from FFs lynch? My suspect and why list will explain.

DD bothers me in the fact that 2 days now she has questioned Labs motives but she stayed on FF and voted with Lab,be interesting where her vote falls this time.

I have to go in early for inventory so I'll finish my suspect and why list later.

First, Ice; let me turn that around on you... what did we learn from it. As far as I can tell, everything about everyone's motives is still purely speculation at this point. There is no way to know for sure if Labby is a strategic scumbag or a confused innocent. Same for everyone else that voted for him. The "I misunderstood FF" argument is plausible enough that I cannot personally ignore it.

Welcome do day 1.5. Great now we know FF is innocent. Great job guys!
I'll not argue this point anymore.