MAFIA #68, Mafia in SPACE game thread, revised and corrected.

[IceH2O]

Its not a trap question Zaffy. LG answered it, I gave my account of it. But your answer is fine even if it is a sidestep of sorts.

Ok how about this question.

What if Annie wasn't around to jump to save himself and Bio thought this was the best chance to save him. Otherwise why go to a tie? If Bio is evil why didn't he just vote Annie and have him taken out?

 

[Lady G]

The tense of your post is all wrong. A person who thought DD was a PR, Crew or Rebel would not have said "I really didn't think..." That's indicating that at the time you had previously thought she was something more than a colonist. A person who is genuinely having the feeling would say "I can't believe XXX was...."

You don't have to change your vote to save someone from ejection. You can change it when you think a situation changes.

Jpap was fighting DD pretty hard too, what are your thoughts on him?

This one confuses me too....I think your going to have fun with my grammer throughout this game, because that is exactly the way I would say it...."I didn't think" how does that indicate one did think she was????

 

[Lady G]

Its not a trap question Zaffy. LG answered it, I gave my account of it. But your answer is fine even if it is a sidestep of sorts.

Ok how about this question.

What if Annie wasn't around to jump to save himself and Bio thought this was the best chance to save him. Otherwise why go to a tie? If Bio is evil why didn't he just vote Annie and have him taken out?

I thought this myself...it jst didn't make sence to me. Right now from the post night posts
Annie, Lab, Bio and Zaff are looking pretty bad to me.
Zaff seemed to be twisting Dags words to me. Lab looks to be pushing to hard for Dag and her post about "saving" Annie didn't seem right to me. Annie it looks as if SOMEONE saved him and that someone looks like Bio IMO.
Of course it is still early after nightfall, but this is what I am getting so far.

 

[Lab_Rat]

This question is to Zaffy and Lab.Did you think DD had a good case against Jpap? If so why the vote on Dag and not Jpap?

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If you HAD to choose between Jpap and DD, who would you have voted for and why?

I agree that my vote on Dag, when it was placed, was a joke. I had no clue who to vote for, so why not vote for my brother? I completely missed nightfall, I got busy rearranging my 75g and doing water changes and lost track of time. So I don't think that I placed a "safe" vote.

I also don't think DD had a great case against jpap, I think he was joking around. But I did not think she was scummy for trying to make a case. In fact, her actions, going out on a limb and doing some bush kicking on day 1 made me think innocent, and most likely a PR. Whether that PR be crew, detective, or doctor I did not know, but I did not think she was scummy.

I'm not sure what to make of jpap. He did get pretty defensive, which doesn't seem to be his style. I will keep my eye on him, but I'm no where near ready to vote for him.

Choice is a great thing and I'm glad I didn't HAVE to choose between the two as I did not feel either were scummy. Between the two, if I HAD to vote for one of them I would have gone with jpap. As I said, I thought DD likely had a townie PR so I would have sacrificed someone who may or may not be a colonist over someone I thought likely had a townie PR.

What if Annie wasn't around to jump to save himself and Bio thought this was the best chance to save him. Otherwise why go to a tie? If Bio is evil why didn't he just vote Annie and have him taken out?

That is a possibility. Annie could very well be scum. If he's not though, why not put a townie you think may have a PR up for a coin toss if possible on the day 1 lynch if you're scum? A coin toss between Annie and DD vs. kill vote on Annie just doesn't matter if both are innocent and Bio is scum. Plus, maybe they thought the vote for a tie would draw less heat than a last minute kill vote on Annie if Annie is innocent. I'm not sure. Whatever the case, Bio is high on my suspected scum list.

 

[johnlarson66]

For some reason these few quotes see to have a common theme -

Not a good nightfall. Sorry to see you go DD. Bio, what do you think of your last minute vote now?

Dawg is sorry. Sorta blames noob Bio -

I think "Dang, this is what I get when I feel obligated to vote based on a limited amount of information."

Dag is sorry.

gah! i feel like crap now. Sorry DD I really didn't think that you were crew or another innocent primary role, I figured worst case scenario you were a colonist.

Bio is sorry

At least we can both feel bad together, lol. Sorry, DD.

Things that make you go Hmmm...

Hmmm...

It was day one folks. I can't remember a day one where three people were so sorry.

Also the day was not that bad, there was no hit. DD had 3 votes and it went to a coin toss. I think there were a few of us with 2 votes. I was expecting to atleast have three votes from the full colon people.

 

[johnlarson66]

DD's last three posts - I do not think she had an investigation yet, but she knew she had 3 votes -

yep..... everyone... my last words are watch Paps, anyone who stuck with him and now bio.... bio is playing too swiftly, ILM is playing with ridiculous must be made up mistakes... my final advice and all I have to go on...

bio..... you say you learned fast and you read alot to learn about the game and still you come in and vote at 8:00???

ah, don't forget Dag was in there trying to get a few words in too.... my highest suspects after Pap are Dag and Bio

Most of this seems like OMGUS, which is not like DD. She does make some good points about the noobs.

 

[Lab_Rat]

I thought this myself...it jst didn't make sence to me. Right now from the post night posts
Annie, Lab, Bio and Zaff are looking pretty bad to me.
Zaff seemed to be twisting Dags words to me. Lab looks to be pushing to hard for Dag and her post about "saving" Annie didn't seem right to me. Annie it looks as if SOMEONE saved him and that someone looks like Bio IMO.
Of course it is still early after nightfall, but this is what I am getting so far.

Pushing hard??? This is just kicking a few bushes. I think Dag is scummy. There's something about his posting that tells me he is scum, something that is intangible and that you guys may not be picking up on. Every game we've played together I've been able to pick up on whether he was scum or not, even when the rest of the town doesn't see it. I could be wrong, but at this point I'm going to keep kicking around him. I see no reason not to.

I also think Bio has a good chance of being scummy. Maybe she did save Annie, that could very well have happened. No way am I trying to downplay that. And with Annie, I never buy the excuse that he's busy or not going to be around...he uses that all the time.

g/o Rich, I'm glad to hear your wife is doing better g/o

 

[johnlarson66]

This is a bad night one.




This I agree with. Bio stepped up her game from posting LOLcats to making some deft maneuvers right before nightfall. Jpap's vote was pretty last minute.



Dag's vote was pretty last minute too.



What really stands out to me are the last minute pile-ons which may have prevented Dag, ILM, or JL from being lynched . ILM is way to quiet for how excited he was about the game, someone told him to shut up. Was jpap's early joke vote on Bio a distancing move?

What were the last minute pile-ons? Was there a train that I missed?

 

[Lab_Rat]

What were the last minute pile-ons? Was there a train that I missed?

It seemed last minute to me, with Bio's vote coming in right before night. My perspective may be a bit different as I lost track of time and came back to see all those votes suddenly on DD and her lynched.

 

[IceH2O]

I agree that my vote on Dag, when it was placed, was a joke. I had no clue who to vote for, so why not vote for my brother? I completely missed nightfall, I got busy rearranging my 75g and doing water changes and lost track of time. So I don't think that I placed a "safe" vote.

I also don't think DD had a great case against jpap, I think he was joking around. But I did not think she was scummy for trying to make a case. In fact, her actions, going out on a limb and doing some bush kicking on day 1 made me think innocent, and most likely a PR. Whether that PR be crew, detective, or doctor I did not know, but I did not think she was scummy.

I'm not sure what to make of jpap. He did get pretty defensive, which doesn't seem to be his style. I will keep my eye on him, but I'm no where near ready to vote for him.

Choice is a great thing and I'm glad I didn't HAVE to choose between the two as I did not feel either were scummy. Between the two, if I HAD to vote for one of them I would have gone with jpap. As I said, I thought DD likely had a townie PR so I would have sacrificed someone who may or may not be a colonist over someone I thought likely had a townie PR.


That is a possibility. Annie could very well be scum. If he's not though, why not put a townie you think may have a PR up for a coin toss if possible on the day 1 lynch if you're scum? A coin toss between Annie and DD vs. kill vote on Annie just doesn't matter if both are innocent and Bio is scum. Plus, maybe they thought the vote for a tie would draw less heat than a last minute kill vote on Annie if Annie is innocent. I'm not sure. Whatever the case, Bio is high on my suspected scum list.

1st the bolded statement. The safe vote was directed at Zaffy not you.

2ndly. I don't understand why you'd think DD was a PR because she was out there bush kicking if thats what you want to call that. As a PR especially a DET I would think she'd sit back and observe and do investigations, not put herself out there in the middle. So I'm not understanding why you thought PR right off the bat.

I agree out of the 3 on DD that Bio is definitely more then likely scum. In either scenario it fits, just fits better if he is saving Annie.

Its bed time...