MAFIA #68, Mafia in SPACE game thread, revised and corrected.

[johnlarson66]

Last game she didn't UD, though she did miss a nightfall. Last game it took missing two votes to UD. I don't know the old DD, I only know the DD I've played with.

So I suck as a PR...big deal. I've not been playing that long so I can't be as wonderful as you. :worthy: Oh great one, please teach me the way of the mafia game.

I suspected she could be a PR. I did not voice my suspicions because that would not have been pro-town/space shuttle. How the hell could I have voted with her when she didn't even vote until late in the day when I wasn't around? How could I have helped her? Those who voted for DD voted for her when I was not around. :screwy:

You are correct, it was not a UD, she did miss nightfall and lost her vote. Me calling it a UD is wrong. She did not die. She just missed nightfall.

I am not that wonderful and I am most likely a good example of how not to play.

I still do not see how you thought DD was a PR and see nothing in your posts that supports that.

 

[Lab_Rat]

I still do not see how you thought DD was a PR and see nothing in your posts that supports that.

I did not post my suspicions as it would have not served the innocents to do so. It wasn't anything where I was like OMG, she is totally a PR. It was more like, hmmm, she's playing differently, I think she may be a townie PR. I'm surprised no one else thought this and I'm really not understanding why you all are making a big deal of me saying this now that her role has been revealed. I'm not saying anything like "see, I told you so" or anything to that nature.

 

[johnlarson66]

That's fair, I don't expect you guys to believe me when I say that a big reason for suspecting he's scummy is an intangible feeling. I do think his posts have been scummy, so it's not just a feeling. It's possible he and Bio are on the same team together. If both were up for the ejection I would have no problem letting it go to a coin flip. I would also have no problem with a dual ejection.

So you think 2 of the 3 on DD were scum, but not jpap? Can all three be on a team together'? Why are you giving jpap a pass even though he was DD's top suspect.

I would think the scum would be spread out. Unless they had no choice.

I trust your judgement on your brother. I just hope you are able to look at other suspects objectively.

 

[Lab_Rat]

So you think 2 of the 3 on DD were scum, but not jpap? Can all three be on a team together'? Why are you giving jpap a pass even though he was DD's top suspect.

I would think the scum would be spread out. Unless they had no choice.

I trust your judgement on your brother. I just hope you are able to look at other suspects objectively.

I don't know about jpap. I am not sure about anyone. My suspects include, but are not limited to, the three who were on DD. All three "could" be on a team together, and may think that we would not suspect all of them on a single player day 1. But that is the whole WIFOM argument I referred to earlier. Jpap does not get a pass from me, I said I didn't see the scummy actions that DD saw. His last minute vote switch to her was odd. Annie most certainly cannot be ignored since Bio's vote may have been an act to save him. I also have mentioned that Mollies has hardly posted anything for as enthusiastic as they were to play, making me think that a teammate told them to shut up.

I am trying to not get tunnel vision. It's early in the game, there are 4 scum out there that need to be ejected.

 

[johnlarson66]

I did not post my suspicions as it would have not served the innocents to do so. It wasn't anything where I was like OMG, she is totally a PR. It was more like, hmmm, she's playing differently, I think she may be a townie PR. I'm surprised no one else thought this and I'm really not understanding why you all are making a big deal of me saying this now that her role has been revealed. I'm not saying anything like "see, I told you so" or anything to that nature.

Seems to me Dag and jpap were seeing something also, you have questioned Dag, but not jpap. You think Dag saw the same things you did and voted for her because she was a PR. Atleast that is what I think is going on. I am all for trusting your gut on Dag. I just do not see how you can build a case on him and not jpap.

Also, who is "you all"? Who is making a big deal? I am up and posting and you are answering, I am supposed to be doing taxes...

 

[Lab_Rat]

Seems to me Dag and jpap were seeing something also, you have questioned Dag, but not jpap. You think Dag saw the same things you did and voted for her because she was a PR. Atleast that is what I think is going on. I am all for trusting your gut on Dag. I just do not see how you can build a case on him and not jpap.

Also, who is "you all"? Who is making a big deal? I am up and posting and you are answering, I am supposed to be doing taxes...

Let's see, iirc, it's been brought up by Ice, jpap, and LG, in addition to yourself. I'm not not building a case on jpap. He's a suspect, but as I said before, until his last minute vote switch I did not see anything that really stuck out as scummy...just a bit of a defensive reaction to DD's bush kicking.

Will you do my taxes for me please? You can even just fill out the EZ form...

 

[Zaffy]

What argument though, what you said he said...wasn't true? I just showed that in the quote did I not?

My point is that Dag said that he though DD was more than a simple colonist. Then he Voted DD. After DD was ejected Dag said, in the past tense, that he was surprised DD was not just a colonist. It's like when a man murders his wife, he says "That WAS my wife" because he's already resolved that she is gone. A man who didn't murder his wife will say "That IS my wife" when presented with her body. This is because he has not yet come to terms with her being gone. It's very subtle, but it can also be very telling. It could be nothing, but it could be a tell. We won't know until the end of the game or we eject Dag.

This one confuses me too....I think your going to have fun with my grammer throughout this game, because that is exactly the way I would say it...."I didn't think" how does that indicate one did think she was????

If you would have said it that way, I'd find you to be scummy too. Thanks for clearing that up. I tend to think that the words people say (or type) have meaning.

 

[AnniesNotOK]

Holy Guacamole. I just had to skim 12 pages.

I am so busy in RL that I shouldn't have joined this game, and I feel bad for that. I really don't have alot of time right now to invest. I will try to do better.

Fortunately it seems most of Day 1 was spent talking about my colon, of which I am an expert and didn't miss much there.

Terrible nightfall. I wish that coin had landed tails.

Bio's last minute vote looks pretty scummy IMO.

I vote to eject Bio.

I will spend as much time as I can before the kids get up this morning reviewing the thread and post more thoughts later.

 

[IceH2O]

I vote to eject Bio

Its him or Annie at this time. I think knowing ones role will help with other roles.

I for one am not shocked that Annie voted Bio.


Lab I understand that is how you play as a PR, the adrenaline gets to you. But you're still somewhat new to the game. DD has played 60+ games. Why would she change her style of play because she got a PR? Wouldn't that be a dead giveaway?
Your argument that all 3 or even 2 of the 3 is a bit far fetched. They have a hit, why not use the hit on DD and not be out in the open? I believe Bio saw a chance to save Annie and they got lucky with DD.

 

[Lady G]

My point is that Dag said that he though DD was more than a simple colonist. Then he Voted DD. After DD was ejected Dag said, in the past tense, that he was surprised DD was not just a colonist. It's like when a man murders his wife, he says "That WAS my wife" because he's already resolved that she is gone. A man who didn't murder his wife will say "That IS my wife" when presented with her body. This is because he has not yet come to terms with her being gone. It's very subtle, but it can also be very telling. It could be nothing, but it could be a tell. We won't know until the end of the game or we eject Dag.



If you would have said it that way, I'd find you to be scummy too. Thanks for clearing that up. I tend to think that the words people say (or type) have meaning.

You know, I'm not going to get into a long drug out thing with you bout this. Can you show me where he said she was more then just a colonist, because I just don't see it? All I saw him say was he didn't think she was a PR, Crew and worst case she was just a colonist.
Yes the words have meaning of course they do or they wouldn't say, type them...but not everyone has A+ grammer.