Mafia #7 -- The Play

[Madcrawdad]

The Mafia - I will pick a leader among your group to PM me your hit. If the leader dies you will need to send in your own hits/investigations. I won't hold a no vote against you, though it will be frowned upon, whoever has the most votes dies. I might be so downtroddened at a non vote that your name could subconciously be typed onto the hit post that night. Each Mafia group will get an investigation per night, if they investigate another Mafia, it will show as innocent.

The Mafia only get 3 investigations each per game. The Mafia group that gets the hit completed doesn't get an investigation completed, the Mafia group whose hit didn't go through will get an investigation completed. A non completed investigation will not count against your alloted amount.


The Mystery Person...they join the game after the events of game night #2. They will show innocent on any investigation. A random generator will decide if an Innocent or a Mafia, and what team they may be on.

Wata, I understand what it's like to get paranoid at the end of the game and start overthinking things... Look at the quote above, though. When the mafia investigate each other they get an innocent read on each other.....essentially this is the same as 'inconclusive'.

For the Mystery Player, rb comes right out and says that their status (mafia or innocent) is determined randomly. There is no clue in the fact that they will read innocent upon investigation. All that means is that if the mafia or detective investigate, that they're investigation will be inconclusive. Don't try to overthink too much...

As far as DC not seeming mafia to you, that's because he's a lurker. Did mee-mee, joander, or plantling scream mafia? I bet not. That's why lurking is often a strategy used by the mafia. Think back to game 6 that you read, but didn't participate in. Remember the townies running around like chickens lynching each other? The reason that happened is because the whole mafia lurked that game (every single one of them).

Read thru the thread again....look for any posts where Plantling, Joander, or DC cast suspicion on each other. You won't find them.

To the best of my recollection:

You'll find a post where Joander protects DC from Hooked Newbie..
You'll find posts where Plantling goes after JPappy as mafia
You'll find posts where I've gone after HN, Mee-mee, Joander, DC, and Plantling...
You'll find posts where JPappy goes after Mee-mee, Hooked Newbie, and casts suspicion on Joander and Plantling.

I'm not going to say much else, as it looks like you're really conflicted right now...just listen to what King and JL said about sticking with the plan, they know what they're talking about.

Hopefully JL will be able to make an appearance before nightfall to help ease your mind...

 

[Rbishop]

Thru post 1301....5:35 PM EST...

to lynch....

DC (3) by jl66 1295 jpap 1237 Mad 1245

mad (1) by DC 1297

2 Townies not voting yet...MP and Wata

1 Townie still kidnapped.....


About 2 1/2 hrs to night fall...

PMs as required, anytime...

 

[mystery player]

Voting patteren for JP....

This is where the voting stands.

Sway -9- Ice 96 CS 110 Plant 131 Z 135 Mad 144 DD 145 Jo 149 LG 168 Jp 169

Z-2- Jl 12 sploke 196

Jo-2- HN 115 MM 139

Ice -1 Sway 177

Wata -1- DC 203


I also want to ask....

All of you that think because of my morning post that I might be mafia, why stay on Sway then? I know if I thought the train starter was mafia I would have switched to another suspect, or even to me. I might have to look into all the names claiming I'm trying to protect myself, might get a good mafia list there.

Jo's / don, vote, LG vote, she was new mafia. and then Jp votes right after her..

Holy Cow! Good Morning Town. Did you all stay up all Night working on this? If Ice isn't Mafia after that Doctor bit then I don't know who is. Today is my off day so you'll be seeing me a good bit, although I do have chores the wife gave me to do.

sploke and mee-mee have not voted yet. Yet they both posted last Night. Here's the tally I believe.

Game Day 2 will end at 9 PM EST Friday, 08/31
13/15 Votes – NO VOTE: Mee-Mee, sploke
1-Joander123: Hooked Newbie (275)
10-IceH2O: johnlarson66 (286) joander123 (288) Plantling (299) KOTD (308) DangerDoll (339) DeputyChief (341) Charlie_stubbs (415) johnlarson66 (427) ZSandmann (461) MadCrawdad (462) jpappy (482)
0-jpappy789: Zsandmann (287)
2-KOTD: Charlie_stubbs (290) IceH2O (232) watuagachicken (348) jpappy789 (375) ZSandmann (380)
0-ZSandmann: johnlarson66 (324)

wchicken: If you aren't with Ice why are you still defending him? You say you aren't, that you are only saying we still shouldn't trust King, yet you still are voting for King currently. I would say I trust that King is the real Det. about 90%. There are really three options:

A) King is the real Detective, he investigated Ice and found he was Old Mafia, and the Snitch just as he says.

B) King is Old Mafia, he saw Ice about to be lynched and decided to use it to make himself look Innocent. But he would make-up the Snitch bit since Ice isn't allowed to tell anyone on his team he is the Snitch.

C) King is New Mafia, he is fairly certain Ice is Old Mafia and wants to use it to make himself look Innocnent. But once again the Snitch part makes this a very tough thing to believe as that is easily checked upon death of Ice.

So, I think there is about a 90% chance A is correct, 5% B, 5% C

Jo and Plantling vote first for Ice. then JP follows in Mad's foot steps....

Day 3 Voting...

JP did not that day, even tho he was on line as mentioned in post 954..

to lynch....

Hooked (5) by KOTD 938 plant 943 jpap 968 Deputy 939 Mad 969 joan 1029

joan (1) by Hook 945

mysplr (2) by charlie 929 jl66 926 wata 1028

10 of 12 have voted....

Night Fall at 8 PM EST, Tonight, Monday, 09/03...

PMs or e-mails as required, please....

JP follows Plantling.....

Day 5 voting....

JP votes before JO...this may have been a suggestion from the Don....

to lynch.....

plant (5) by jpap 1177 DC 1188 KOTD 1181 jl66 1176 Mad 1180

mad (1) by mp 1190

6 of 9 have voted...

no votes currently from Joanander, Wata and Plant...

about 2 hrs to night fall.....

Day 6....

JP votes for Plantling, could it be distancing ?.

Ok, why I had no vote...I have been completely off the site for 24 hours now and was only on for about half an hour last night. I did not feel comfortable placing a vote with minimal time to read/analyze the day's posts and also why I didn't state reasons for people (I was pretty much out the door) just names. I even pm'd rb explaining why I would not have a vote. My post supposedly casts a wide net, well I don't know why you think that...I was only really suspicious about the ones on "my list," the others were basically where I stood on people...a reference for myself and everyone really...

JP still could have submitted at this time......JL, no offense, i think that you not knowing who the MP is maybe clouding your observations, i urge you to put aside your frustrations and look at the info provided...
As stated in the rules, the MP will show up innocent on an investigation, this is a clue so that an investigation period is not wasted, However Mad seems to keep ignoring this and continues to harass me, he must realize i'm an innocent, Also after Mad voted he was very quiet until i left the game for the night, not like him, this is suspicious...this is a very important vote for us townies and we need to get it right..... Given the information posted, I vote to lynch JP ....

 

[mystery player]

Wata, I understand what it's like to get paranoid at the end of the game and start overthinking things... Look at the quote above, though. When the mafia investigate each other they get an innocent read on each other.....essentially this is the same as 'inconclusive'.....

For the Mystery Player, rb comes right out and says that their status (mafia or innocent) is determined randomly. There is no clue in the fact that they will read innocent upon investigation. All that means is that if the mafia or detective investigate, that they're investigation will be inconclusive. Don't try to overthink too much...

My position was detrmined before i started, yes by random, it decided to make me a townie, and as in the rules will show up innocent, { this is a clue} ...........

As far as DC not seeming mafia to you, that's because he's a lurker. Did mee-mee, joander, or plantling scream mafia? I bet not. That's why lurking is often a strategy used by the mafia. Think back to game 6 that you read, but didn't participate in. Remember the townies running around like chickens lynching each other? The reason that happened is because the whole mafia lurked that game (every single one of them).

Read thru the thread again....look for any posts where Plantling, Joander, or DC cast suspicion on each other. You won't find them.

To the best of my recollection:

You'll find a post where Joander protects DC from Hooked Newbie..
You'll find posts where Plantling goes after JPappy as mafia
You'll find posts where I've gone after HN, Mee-mee, Joander, DC, and Plantling...
You'll find posts where JPappy goes after Mee-mee, Hooked Newbie, and casts suspicion on Joander and Plantling.

I'm not going to say much else, as it looks like you're really conflicted right now...just listen to what King and JL said about sticking with the plan, they know what they're talking about.

Hopefully JL will be able to make an appearance before nightfall to help ease your mind...

......

 

[Rbishop]

About one hour to go.....

3 votes to lynch DC

1 vote for Mad

1 vote for jpap

1 non vote

1 Kidnap

 

[Madcrawdad]

As stated in the rules, the MP will show up innocent on an investigation, this is a clue so that an investigation period is not wasted, However Mad seems to keep ignoring this and continues to harass me, he must realize i'm an innocent, Also after Mad voted he was very quiet until i left the game for the night, not like him, this is suspicious...this is a very important vote for us townies and we need to get it right..... Given the information posted,[/COLOR] I vote to lynch JP ....

How the heck could anyone think you're innocent? Because you're at least 0/5 in picking mafia? You picked DD, JL, Chas, all known innocents as mafia. Then you picked me as mafia (I know I'm innocent). You then also defended known mafia Plantling....yeah, you seem innocent alright.

Now you're saying that JPap IS mafia, and I'm suspicious.....NEWSFLASH! There's only ONE original mafia left, so why are you still playing the fence? Notice how neither your or DC have been overly-committal in picking myself or JPap to vote for? We're both still suspicious.... creating just enough confusion for some (actually one) of the townies?

Whether you're mafia (you probably are) or innocent at this point is irrelevant, your mafia picking skills stink. Once Joander is eventually lynched, we'll know your status for sure....

Assuming that you and DC are innocents (and being wrongly accused), why are you not fighting to lynch Joander? It's a safer move than, once again, trying to force an endgame situation by voting for Madcrawdad or JPappy.

 

[jpappy789]

Mp if you are so sure I am mafia then why would I have built cases for hn and mee-mee (before her slip) who both turned out mafia, and later put out a list containing jo, platling, and dc...two of which are mafia for sure and the last is almost definitely mafia..?

My voting pattern doesn't say much.

First I named sway as suspicious before many people did (excluding mad and I forgot who else Ice tried to shift the blame on) And most of those people came out with quick posts agreeing with what other people had already said

Then you say I follow mad...ummm how does this make me suspicious? Both me and mad can't be mafia. And jo, dc, and plant all latched on to Ice pretty early. Possibly they already knew KOTD was det and didn't want to risk questioning him? I did and that is why I waited so long, rather than jumping to conclusions right away. Wata did the same exact thing and is innocent.

What is better...a no vote or a quickly posted vote with no analysis in it what so ever? I explained my no vote. I don't really see why that matters as I let rb know that I would not vote. And I was on the site EARLIER in the day before a lot of things came up. And if I remember correctly an innocent was lynched that night so it's not like I wasn't helping find mafia...

If you don't remember I will refresh your memory...I actually made a case for hn! I went through his posts and analyzed, which is way more than you did. You were the one of the last (if not last) to vote for hn and all you said was that he was wiggling around questions (I believe this was already stated) blah blah blah and that you were still suspicious of cs but didn't think he was a big threat...sounds like a mafia post to me...

Again if you don't remember I made a list right after mee-mee was lynched that contained jo (mafia don), plant (mafia), and dc (most definitely mafia)...why would the don let me out his own players, including himself?

Now let's see how you have done...you have named these people mafia...

Chas--doc
DD--innocent
jl--innocent
mad--most likely innocent
me--thief and innocent

Now who have you defended...?

plantling--mafia
dc--thought to be mafia by most of the town

How do you plead? ...and confused is not an option...

 

[mystery player]

How the heck could anyone think you're innocent? Because you're at least 0/5 in picking mafia? You picked DD, JL, Chas, all known innocents as mafia. Then you picked me as mafia (I know I'm innocent). You then also defended known mafia Plantling....yeah, you seem innocent alright.

Now you're saying that JPap IS mafia, and I'm suspicious.

Yes i am, it's just that JP tips the scales for me, but with every post you make, i have to wonder...


....NEWSFLASH! There's only ONE original mafia left, so why are you still playing the fence? Notice how neither your or DC have been overly-committal in picking myself or JPap to vote for? We're both still suspicious.... creating just enough confusion for some (actually one) of the townies?

Whether you're mafia (you probably are) or innocent at this point is irrelevant, your mafia picking skills stink. Once Joander is eventually lynched, we'll know your status for sure....

Assuming that you and DC are innocents (and being wrongly accused), why are you not fighting to lynch Joander? It's a safer move than, once again, trying to force an endgame situation by voting for Madcrawdad or JPappy.

Iam going for imo, the strongest first.....I thought you were going to be quiet, another lie..........

 

[mystery player]

Mp if you are so sure I am mafia then why would I have built cases for hn and mee-mee (before her slip) who both turned out mafia, and later put out a list containing jo, platling, and dc...two of which are mafia for sure and the last is almost definitely mafia..?

My voting pattern doesn't say much.

It say's plenty.......

First I named sway as suspicious before many people did (excluding mad and I forgot who else Ice tried to shift the blame on) And most of those people came out with quick posts agreeing with what other people had already said

Then you say I follow mad...ummm how does this make me suspicious? Both me and mad can't be mafia. And jo, dc, and plant all latched on to Ice pretty early. Possibly they already knew KOTD was det and didn't want to risk questioning him? I did and that is why I waited so long, rather than jumping to conclusions right away. Wata did the same exact thing and is innocent.

What is better...a no vote or a quickly posted vote with no analysis in it what so ever? I explained my no vote. I don't really see why that matters as I let rb know that I would not vote. And I was on the site EARLIER in the day before a lot of things came up. And if I remember correctly an innocent was lynched that night so it's not like I wasn't helping find mafia...

If you don't remember I will refresh your memory...I actually made a case for hn! I went through his posts and analyzed, which is way more than you did. You were the one of the last (if not last) to vote for hn and all you said was that he was wiggling around questions (I believe this was already stated) blah blah blah and that you were still suspicious of cs but didn't think he was a big threat...sounds like a mafia post to me...

Again if you don't remember I made a list right after mee-mee was lynched that contained jo (mafia don), plant (mafia), and dc (most definitely mafia)...why would the don let me out his own players, including himself?

Now let's see how you have done...you have named these people mafia...

Chas--doc
DD--innocent
jl--innocent
mad--most likely innocent
me--thief and innocent

Now who have you defended...?

plantling--mafia
dc--thought to be mafia by most of the town

You seem uptight, hummmmmmmmmm..... lol

 

[wataugachicken]

aww crap, just got home. . . .i'll just put my vote back on deputy, because i'm not learning anything new.

Vote for Deputy