Mafia #70: The Time Vortex

[Fishfriend1]

Ug. They got me. My internet went down for no apperent reason and i missed nightfall. GO TOWNIES! (pic is referring to me)

 

[Lab_Rat]

Interesting...I think the GS should shoot Kash in light of JB's role claim. I doubt he would falsely RC at this point, scum team is not in danger where such a drastic move is needed. Jpap hasn't told us when this night is over...may be over with one shot or may go on until scum is hit. If Kash is shot and JB is lying we won't lose Kash. If we're still in the GS game then Kash can shoot JB...if not, we can lynch JB. I'm thinking that won't be an issue...

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[charlie_stubbs]

What do you guys think of Charlie and his lack of participation?

I personally think its disgusting.

You may be onto something there JB. I do need to look through your posts though, I'll have to do that tomorrow since I'm falling asleep at the keyboard. But Kash could be fooling us all. I really didn't like her recent posts with her confusion about the gunslinger game. She seems to have a pretty awesome memory, so her confusion doesn't sit well with me.

Maybe Charlie got stuck on HN too?

Floating my name around again huh? I'm flattered. I wasn't stuck on HN. I was the third one to vote for him if I recall correctly, but thats not important now, with the turns and whatnots. Voting for scum buys you zero credibility in those type of games.

Interesting...I think the GS should shoot Kash in light of JB's role claim. I doubt he would falsely RC at this point, scum team is not in danger where such a drastic move is needed. Jpap hasn't told us when this night is over...may be over with one shot or may go on until scum is hit. If Kash is shot and JB is lying we won't lose Kash. If we're still in the GS game then Kash can shoot JB...if not, we can lynch JB. I'm thinking that won't be an issue...

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I agree.

I believe you JB. Shoot Kash whoever has that gun.

Id shoot Wiz right after that. Can't find anything that looks scummy in Kash's posts Wiz? Cmon man, everybody has posts that look scummy. Sometimes I change my post 3 or 4 times because it looks scummy to me, and I know I'm innocent.

 

[noodles62]

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Since Z is innocent, I'll reiterate my post. I do believe that one of noods and John are mafia. I don't know which.

- You just hold on to that little story if you want Ogre, cause so far you gut has been right on! :thumbsup:

We need to get people as active as possible and posting so whoever has the gun can make a good decision.

Also, it sounds to me like the turn was done by the good guys, so I think we can still trust Rich as a confirmed innocent. Anyone have a thought on this?

I keep thinking about the players who haven't really been looked at much yet. JL, Kash, Noods, Labby, me for that matter.

I'll confess that I haven't had much of a clue so far, but I didn't play in any of the other formats. This one I remember well, and the best way to give the GS a good shot is to start throwing questions around and see who says what.

I'll be right back...

While I agree that we need to be active to help the GS, the past few days should be seriously looked at based on the limited input from several players. For them to step up now just to save their arse and try to look good is pretty scummy IMO.

Noods' response. She was playing confused. But right around nightfall, she was complaining about people not really playing; now this is her first response. Anything to say for this, Noods?

And then we get this from Kash:

Kash, I find this highly suspect as you were one of the gunslingers in the original game. You of all people should know that just waiting to see what happens is a recipe for scum victory. Anything to say to this?

To whoever has the gun: Ice did so well that game because he shot on instinct based on what he saw in individual people's posts. He did not wait and act on concensus. The rest of us did that. I can tell you that I hesitated on the instinct to shoot Labby 3 separate times. We lost the game for it.

I think the slip in Kash's post is a dead give away. She has gone through most of the game unchecked. I think this is that time. Noods isn't quite as suspect due to this response, but I'll be looking into both of these further tonight.
Based on this

Yes, JB I was legitimately ignorant of the GS game as I did not play or really follow it and had not looked up the rules/game at that point. I welcome you to look into my posts, I have nothing to hide. I like your points on Kashta. She is good at posting long "insightful" posts in which she could (and has before) hid her role.

No Zaffy. The gunslinger doesn't shoot themself with the silly thing. That person isn't at risk at all. They target whoever they think is scummy. And if a regular townie was given the gun AND the mafia team got to pick their choice now... you think they're going to hand that to someone likely to aim correctly?
We'll be lucky if the slinger doesn't take out a physicist by mistake.

Kashta - you are so good at remembering other games that were much further back then the GS game. Why the sudden loss of memory?

What do you guys think of Charlie and his lack of participation?

I think it stinks to high Heaven!

Interesting...I think the GS should shoot Kash in light of JB's role claim. I doubt he would falsely RC at this point, scum team is not in danger where such a drastic move is needed. Jpap hasn't told us when this night is over...may be over with one shot or may go on until scum is hit. If Kash is shot and JB is lying we won't lose Kash. If we're still in the GS game then Kash can shoot JB...if not, we can lynch JB. I'm thinking that won't be an issue...

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I also am inclined to believe Jbradt. I hope to have time to look back at Kashta's posts later today. (I have my 3.5 hour Sups meeting this morning :thumbsdown. I have looked into JB after night one and continued to "watch" him and I have not found anything that stucks out as scum. Let's hope the GS has the wisdom to choose wisely. We are losing way too many innocents.

 

[jbradt]

I can't say strongly enough that I am telling the truth. The GS can clear it up with one shot. I was back and forth about the RC, but I don't want to see another innocent townie die before taking out at least one more scum. The scum are going to hit me as soon as they get the power again, so we've got to make this time count. They already know I'm telling the truth based on the fact that I KNOW what Kash is.

I agree with Charlie... I would shoot Wiz after Kash. Thing is, after Kash, we'll have me, Rich, and the GS as confirmed innocents. Along with input from the other CI's we have 48 hours from the time of the shot on Kash to work out who to go after next. This is the best chance we're going to have to come together as a town and take out scum.

 

[jbradt]

PS... I have looked into your posts, Noods; I found nothing to make me think you more likely scum than anyone else. For now, my attention stays solely on Kash and Wiz.

 

[Madcrawdad]

Interesting turn of events. It doesn't make much sense that, as scum, JB would fake role-claim at this point. Makes Kash a pretty good shot IMO.

It might make sense for the gunslinger to wait to hear something from her first. It'd also be nice to hear more from Ogre, as he still hasn't addressed the case against him from yesterday.

 

[the wizard]

Awww, where'd you go, Wiz? Kind of hard to defend her now, huh?

I went to bed so I could get up for work this morning JB. It became apparent that you weren't going to pull the posts to show what you saw.

Like I said, I wasn't defending Kashta, I was asking for you to back up your claim.

 

[the wizard]

Others may have put stock in your RC, but I don't trust it. based on the time stamp, it seems as a frustrated act from someone that could not produce what he said was there.

If the GS shoots the wrong person, we lose another innocent.

At this stage and format, I don't trust anybody.

My question to you now JB, why would CI come out in a game where all the scum needs to do is take out the PRs to win?

 

[noodles62]

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Also, it sounds to me like the turn was done by the good guys, so I think we can still trust Rich as a confirmed innocent. Anyone have a thought on this?..

I agree with this. The spells that were available to the Warlock (who is a townie role) included one that reversed the effects of the nightfall prior - which would have been the turn of townie to scum - the reversal being scum back to townie. Not sure who it was on, but I think it is pretty safe to assume that the Mafia are down one player again, and either way Rich is cleared - meaning if Rich was the N2 turn he is now back; if he was not the N2 turn he is still confirmed townie.... does that make sense?

(thankfully my meeting has been delayed - so you get to put up with me for a little while longer) :dance2: