Mafia #70: The Time Vortex
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Lady G, I believe that's the second time this afternoon you've expressed reservations about your vote (or all the other votes) on Wizard. I do understand that position... there are 3 scum who already know who the innocents are and neither of them wants us to figure them out.
But why is it you feel it necessary to post like that... twice even? I don't see anyone else doing this (so far) except you. I also don't see anyone else stressing about the possibility that HN might be lynched either and flips innocent during nightfall results. But there're just as many votes on him right now as there are on Wizard.
I can't help but wonder if you know Wizard's role and are already trying to figure out what you'll say later tonight when (or if) Wizard dies and his role is revealed to us. If that were the case (Wizard innocent and Lady G scum), I'm sure you WOULD be a little nervous right now, knowing you may be questioned tomorrow for voting him.
Is that what's really going on with you? Or do you seriously worry so much (as a townie) that you're voting alongside other possible/probably mafias (for real)... to the point you feel compelled to share those feelings/misgivings (?) in 2 separate posts?
The fact of the matter is..... no matter who we lynch tonight, the odds are very high that they'll still turn up innocent. No matter how hard we try to root out the bad guys, the first few nights usually go against us anyway. That's just how this works. It's really hard for anyone to pinpoint who the evils are with virtually nothing to go on yet.
So I guess what I'm asking is this. If you're really concerned about this (enough that you've posted those reservations twice already)... then doesn't that mean you're pretty suspicious of the people you're voting with? .......Maybe a little more or a little less. But then if that's true, why are you keeping your vote there?
You've stated many times you believe Wizard is scum based on his posts. But if that's really true, then wouldn't you be a little more confident that you've made the right call..... or at least a legitimate (and defensible) one?
And whether or not there are scum voting with you or scum just trying to blend in with you (all), what does it really matter if it turns out you're mistaken and you've helped them kill a townie? That's a possibility we all face, but we're not all posting about like you've done with so little time to go before nightfall.
I'm not saying Lady G is evil or Wizard is townie. I don't have a crystal ball... I can't guess who's who anymore than anyone else can on Day 1. It's just that we all vote the best way we can and really have to let the chips fall wherever they do.
In case someone else wonders what prompted me to ask this, here are the posts from Lady G which stood out to me. (And maybe this jumped out a bit for me because Lady G's first comment of this tone was specifically addressed to me.)
That really sounds kinda defensive to me.. already. Like you're already trying to justify who you're voting before anyone even asks you to explain it.
I've picked up a real bad feeling in other games where I thought other people were piling on behind me and it made me second guess the wisdom of my vote, so much so that I've switched my vote before night fell because of that.
I must also question your word choice there, as well, Lady G. "His posting DID seem scummy..." DID? Past tense? Why didn't you say his posting DOES seem scummy to you (still).... or phrase that as his posting STILL seems scummy to you?
Here, again. Lady G posted the exact same sentiment again that she'd already established a short time earlier. Repeating those concerns just seems or feels kinda weird (IMO).
Lady G, if you like your vote where it is, just leave it there and be done with it. But why keep posting about it as you're doing like it's a huge dilemma for you or like you're really concerned what others are going to think of you (and your affiliation) as a result?
Your vote isn't any different from anyone else's and it doesn't mean anything more than the rest of ours does... or does it?
But why is it you feel it necessary to post like that... twice even? I don't see anyone else doing this (so far) except you. I also don't see anyone else stressing about the possibility that HN might be lynched either and flips innocent during nightfall results. But there're just as many votes on him right now as there are on Wizard.
I can't help but wonder if you know Wizard's role and are already trying to figure out what you'll say later tonight when (or if) Wizard dies and his role is revealed to us. If that were the case (Wizard innocent and Lady G scum), I'm sure you WOULD be a little nervous right now, knowing you may be questioned tomorrow for voting him.
Is that what's really going on with you? Or do you seriously worry so much (as a townie) that you're voting alongside other possible/probably mafias (for real)... to the point you feel compelled to share those feelings/misgivings (?) in 2 separate posts?
The fact of the matter is..... no matter who we lynch tonight, the odds are very high that they'll still turn up innocent. No matter how hard we try to root out the bad guys, the first few nights usually go against us anyway. That's just how this works. It's really hard for anyone to pinpoint who the evils are with virtually nothing to go on yet.
So I guess what I'm asking is this. If you're really concerned about this (enough that you've posted those reservations twice already)... then doesn't that mean you're pretty suspicious of the people you're voting with? .......Maybe a little more or a little less. But then if that's true, why are you keeping your vote there?
You've stated many times you believe Wizard is scum based on his posts. But if that's really true, then wouldn't you be a little more confident that you've made the right call..... or at least a legitimate (and defensible) one?
And whether or not there are scum voting with you or scum just trying to blend in with you (all), what does it really matter if it turns out you're mistaken and you've helped them kill a townie? That's a possibility we all face, but we're not all posting about like you've done with so little time to go before nightfall.
I'm not saying Lady G is evil or Wizard is townie. I don't have a crystal ball... I can't guess who's who anymore than anyone else can on Day 1. It's just that we all vote the best way we can and really have to let the chips fall wherever they do.
In case someone else wonders what prompted me to ask this, here are the posts from Lady G which stood out to me. (And maybe this jumped out a bit for me because Lady G's first comment of this tone was specifically addressed to me.)
That really sounds kinda defensive to me.. already. Like you're already trying to justify who you're voting before anyone even asks you to explain it.
I've picked up a real bad feeling in other games where I thought other people were piling on behind me and it made me second guess the wisdom of my vote, so much so that I've switched my vote before night fell because of that.
I must also question your word choice there, as well, Lady G. "His posting DID seem scummy..." DID? Past tense? Why didn't you say his posting DOES seem scummy to you (still).... or phrase that as his posting STILL seems scummy to you?
Here, again. Lady G posted the exact same sentiment again that she'd already established a short time earlier. Repeating those concerns just seems or feels kinda weird (IMO).
Lady G, if you like your vote where it is, just leave it there and be done with it. But why keep posting about it as you're doing like it's a huge dilemma for you or like you're really concerned what others are going to think of you (and your affiliation) as a result?
Your vote isn't any different from anyone else's and it doesn't mean anything more than the rest of ours does... or does it?
Ok, no one is posting much and I'm bored soooooo here's one for ya......
Owls eat Rats right (Lab RAT)
Wizards use Owls right (The Wizard)
Owls would also eat fish wouldn't the? (Hooked "hooks catch fish", FishFriend, Mad "crawldad")
LMAO..yeah, this is a joke
Ok, no one is posting much and I'm bored soooooo here's one for ya......
Owls eat Rats right (Lab RAT)
Wizards use Owls right (The Wizard)
Owls would also eat fish wouldn't the? (Hooked "hooks catch fish", FishFriend, Mad "crawldad")
LMAO..yeah, this is a joke
OMG G! You are bored! LOL
I just saw your previous post, Noods, and it's a perfect example of what I'm talking about. But it isn't written in the same tone Lady G was using. You're also voting Wizard. You've also acknowledged that a lot of people seem to have jumped on too. But that's it... you're voting who you feel is most scummy and that's just how it is. Your post is straightforward about this... matter of fact.
Looking at Lady G's two posts... it isn't the same thing at all. And yes, you're right we're all in the same boat she is (except for the mafia). But no one else is posting about the way she has.
Here's what I mean, Noods. You just posted this one. Read how that's written and then compare that to what Lady G has been saying.
You and Lady G are voting the same and for essentially the same reasoning. While you're aware it might be a good vote or a bad one, that's okay with you, it stays where you placed it. Lady G just started sounding (to me) like she's jittery about this.
LOL, and where is your vote? Oh yeah with the others
There are 3 scum...but "neither" of them want us to figure them out? Hmmm, are you the third is that why you only stat TWO don't want us to figure them out Kash?
Not nervous about questions at all...ask away.
Yep there are others voting him that make me nervous.
DUH!
Again, yes there are others on him that make me nervous, my vote is staying because it is where I want it.
Yep I'm as confident as I can be on a day one vote.
No defense there Kash, just thoughts
Good for you
Because there were past posts, no crazy ill thought wording there.
Thank you, I think I will leave it where it is.
WOW, have I hit a nerve with you calling your man out....is this the game you finally get to play bad together?
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