Mafia #70: The Time Vortex

dirtydawg10 said:
Why would having another confirmed innocent hurt the Town since the scum already know their identity?
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dawg, you seem intent in putting words in my mouth. I did not say it would hurt the town. I said I did not see the reason for it and that they should just shoot who jb suggests.

I guess there is no down side to coming out. In the original GS game, the GS just posted in bold who they are going to shoot. In this game it is done by jpap. So I am unsure how we will know for sure. I am also unsure why jpap does not want the town to know who the GS is. Maybe they can't come out.
 
jbradt said:
Executive summary:
We're in the gunslinger game. I'm CI, Kash is dead scum. You, Wiz and Noods seem to be top suspects. We're working on a way for the GS to come out without opening up the claim to false RCs.

What I'd like to hear from you: Who are your top suspects, and a couple thoughts on why you suspect each. What do you think of Wiz and his defense of Kash? What were the "tells" you had that made you so certain of Zs role? You seemed to be hinting that you had info that the rest of the town didn't have... what was that info? How do you respond to the thought that you were trying to hint at RC to get people to lynch Zsand?
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What's CI? Is that an investigative role? Wash kash investigated or was it a luck shot?

Top suspects... ummm... let me get back to you. Really, at this point I'd stick with my original thoughts and say that John and Noods are more likely mafia... that was what I said that started the whole Zsand issue. The only one on my day one suspect list that still meets what I think are valid requirements is Zaffy. Both day1 and day2 were useless votes.

I don't have the full load out on Day 3 yet, so I can't tell you what he did on day 3.

I'll have to read up on WIz's defense of Kash. Honestly, nothing I remember from the first two days would have led me to suspect her.

My tells on Z are/where a relatively inactive style (before his being out for the weekend) and more specifically, his seeming to say things when he really wasn't saying anything. On other words, very inoffensive, non-committal posts. I really felt that this was the case in this game as well. That might not have been enough, but when that was combined with two totally useless votes, I felt that he was hiding.

I totally understand why I'm suspect now. It's even worse after the grilling I took on the whole, "what if" scenario. I was very, very sure that Z was mafia. I said as much, with the information that I had, I though he was by far the best choice we had for mafia. I was wrong.

Here's a case of damned if you do, damned if you don't. Of course, I was trying to get people to vote for Zsand. I showed a moment of weakness when I said "if Z is not mafia" and then Kash, John, and Noods accused me of backpedaling, being unreliable and everything short of being a socialist.

So I had to show that I wasn't backpedaling, I was serious and not trying to sneak off Z. I wanted everyone to vote for Z. I really thought he was the best choice for mafia.

Does that help?
 
noodles62 said:
or it was obvious that HN was going down regardless so he jumped on....?
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I made a vote switch to save my ***. you would have done the same. I also stated HN made an opportunistic hit and run vote. HN was scum. Those are facts that can be verified by reading the game thread.

If you still want to dig that crap up and try to make me look scummy then maybe Ogre is right this time and you are scum.

If my death is what it takes to convince you all the GS shoot me.
 
the wizard said:
I made a vote switch to save my ***. you would have done the same. I also stated HN made an opportunistic hit and run vote. HN was scum. Those are facts that can be verified by reading the game thread.

If you still want to dig that crap up and try to make me look scummy then maybe Ogre is right this time and you are scum.

If my death is what it takes to convince you all the GS shoot me.
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then
 
OgreMkV said:
What's CI? Is that an investigative role? Wash kash investigated or was it a luck shot?

Top suspects... ummm... let me get back to you. Really, at this point I'd stick with my original thoughts and say that John and Noods are more likely mafia... that was what I said that started the whole Zsand issue. The only one on my day one suspect list that still meets what I think are valid requirements is Zaffy. Both day1 and day2 were useless votes.

I don't have the full load out on Day 3 yet, so I can't tell you what he did on day 3.

I'll have to read up on WIz's defense of Kash. Honestly, nothing I remember from the first two days would have led me to suspect her.

My tells on Z are/where a relatively inactive style (before his being out for the weekend) and more specifically, his seeming to say things when he really wasn't saying anything. On other words, very inoffensive, non-committal posts. I really felt that this was the case in this game as well. That might not have been enough, but when that was combined with two totally useless votes, I felt that he was hiding.

I totally understand why I'm suspect now. It's even worse after the grilling I took on the whole, "what if" scenario. I was very, very sure that Z was mafia. I said as much, with the information that I had, I though he was by far the best choice we had for mafia. I was wrong.

Here's a case of damned if you do, damned if you don't. Of course, I was trying to get people to vote for Zsand. I showed a moment of weakness when I said "if Z is not mafia" and then Kash, John, and Noods accused me of backpedaling, being unreliable and everything short of being a socialist.

So I had to show that I wasn't backpedaling, I was serious and not trying to sneak off Z. I wanted everyone to vote for Z. I really thought he was the best choice for mafia.

Does that help?
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It does actually help. Thanks. Can you say more about your case on JL and Noods?
 
jbradt said:
It does actually help. Thanks. Can you say more about your case on JL and Noods?
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Also... CI is communicating innocent. We investigated Kash last night. The GS shot her and confirmed her role as scum. Most people seem okay with taking this info at face value.
 
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