Mafia 72-Vampires game thread

Not sure I would equate his erratic behavior with being alone, since in the past he's played on both ends of the spectrum while still being on a team.

That is true. It seems that if I remember correctly JB was the only one that ever reigned him in effectively. So much so that FF fooled us all that game.
 
Uggh... even on Day 1, playing catchup is a pain.

Note: While reading through from where I'd left off before, I thought I pulled Ice's quote as well where he suggested Lab might handpick either Rich or JB for the lead vamp role. (I'll go back and get that one if somebody needs me to.) Anyway...

What I found noteworthy about that post from Ice was it's a good way to deflect such theories and suspicions onto other vets who play under the radar.... and away from himself.

In actuality, IF Lab Rat decided to hand pick that role then lie to us about all roles being randomly assigned (which has since been confirmed that she did not hand pick anything)... then Ice would have proved an excellent candidate himself for such a hand picked lead vampire role. However, I notice Ice conveniently left himself off that list.

With this point in mind...

Even if Ice (randomly!) landed on the vampire team with another player in the lead role.... making that suggestion early on might dissuade the rest of us from suspecting Ice at all.

Interesting Day 1 strategy there, Ice.

Ice's theory is interesting but that leaves the problem of if it is correct that would mean that all the noobs would be innocents. I don't really see LR doing that for just that reason.

Reading further, Dag made an odd point further speculating about who's innocent or evil based on a totally erroneous supposition Ice tossed out for us. This logic baffles me as I don't see any direct correlation between Lab Rat hand selecting a single lead vamp role assignment (which is a dead end anyway because she's confirmed it isn't true)..... and any other role in the game (noob or otherwise).

I'm not saying that I think a new player is not the lead...what I am saying is that IF lab handpicked the lead then the only people I would rule out are the new players because they generally present a higher possibility of UDing compared to more experienced players. Other than that I could see Lab choosing anyone else, not just who Ice thinks.

More speculation posted here about what the game mod may or may not do.

Mind you, I'm not blasting either Dag or Jpappy about this because it is hard not to get sidetracked like this when someone like Ice posts a useless and speculatory theory as he does sometimes.

I'm more inclined to view Ice and his motives as slightly more suspicious than sincerely pro-town when I see him throwing out baseless and unsubstantiated ideas like this.

All roles were assigned randomly through an online random number generator. The role of Dracula and the other vampire(s) were chosen randomly, Dracula did not get to pick for the start of the game/day 1. There was no tweaking of roles.

The vampires do not lose their bite if Dracula dies, but Dracula will lose their one time extra bite if they die before it is used. The bite is a 50/50 turn vs. kill after night 1...night 1 is automatic turn unless they happen to bite a townie PR (would be an automatic kill in that scenario).

Thanks for clarying the point, Lab Rat. We were already heading off into odd and counter-productive directions based on what "seemed" to be a harmless suggestion.
 
Get over it. This is a GAME. If it was real life i would kill to learn how many people were vamps, but its a GAME. Not RL an GAME. I like to be challanged, thats why i still play these games. If it wasn't challanging i would just quit and do something else. So. now that you undersand that i like a challange when playing a GAME do you understand why i dont want to know the # of vamps?



Look up.



You too.



That lab would choose randomly, and since you and Ice are saying she wouldn't you are protecting the newbs from being looked at.



Jb, Jl, ots one letter, and you got what i meant.



Glad i make you laugh LG.



Mafia 72 notes.

Early Game Notes
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DD actually posting only at night.
LG opens with a need for garlic, is she possibly trying to look innocent, or just playing around?
I open with a role play.
Dag notes that i havent killed myself yet.
Chill opens with a role play, indicating that im evil (pale skin) and that he likes LG ("fetching" in goth attire)
Judge starts game with role play saying s/he is moving in. Reference to vamps? maybe.

More Notes
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Dag never answred my question. (post 26)
Rich starts with a "see any bats around".
Wiz enters late. Daughter and computer stuff.
Kashta also enters late (corralation with wiz?) and imedietly jumps on me for my not reading the background. I have since fixed that issue.
I've made my role plays so i seem like i am the preist or the vamp hunter. Wonder why no one seems to have noticed, or cared.
My big POST OR ELSE thing does what its suppoesed to: get people posting. For some reason im jumped on for it...
Rich seems to be very unactive/hiding this game. Wonder why.
Nice role play by LG, but she metions Chill and Judge as potential friends, could be teamwork between them, must look closely at them.
JB starts laying the foundation of my death...(post 51)
LG mentions CHill and Judge again. Look closer, try to find a connection... (post 52)
Chill also makes a connection with LG and Judge, be extra careful with them...(post 53-54)
Really late entry by User_name.
Even later entry by jm11212.
Our vet, Ice, is quiet, doesn't worry me yet.
Wiz comes in after me for not hearing the screams of the vampire attacked townsfolk in the night. Itsa computer dumb --- you can't hear stuff, you need to read it.
LG a push over. Hmmm...
Ices Lab hand picked the Lead Vamp thing comes out. (this will come back to haunt him)
JB mentions that its the best idea hes heard all day. Its the only idea hes heard all day.
some garbage about rules...
Comments on Ices theory.
I comment on JP thinking that lab wouldn't allow a newb to be lead vamp.
2Hobbies comments on it, saying that it was "RANDOM". Worrying. He may be defending himself, i think my vote with fall on him 2day. He also says that the Lead Vamp would not use bite day 1.
JP is just as defensive, saying that my post is BS.
Dag and JP agree that the LV (lead vamp) would use the extra bite on day 1 more then any other day.
WIz thinks i could be Dracula! Oh ha ha ha! Thats funny as hell! There is no way i would be so active if i was an important role. Ha, just the thought...
I think i got the whole barking up the wrong tree thing! I think it was that wiz siad that i shouldn't be looking at the rules, that doesn't help. but then i noted that Ice was the one who originaly siad it (post 113-4-5 or so, that area of the thread anyway :))
Chill helps me confirm my thought that 2Hobbies was... "annoyed" with my accusiantion of newbs as LV.

Mr. Palmer has finnished thinking, and has come up with his notes for the game (above). He just hope that people listen to them and understand what they are saying. He also hopes that he doesnt get killed on day one again. He waits and listens to see what the rest of the town thinks, but also places his vote, for what its worth.

I vote to put a stake in 2hobbies.

To answer your question, FF... yes, when Wizard has his daughter visiting us for the weekend, that occupies my time as well. She'll be with us next weekend too for Father's day.

As I'd already posted in the sign up thread that I wouldn't be around a lot this game and most regular players already know we're both rather scarce most weekends anyway, I didn't repeat the same info in my own post. Didn't feel that was necessary.
 
I'd love to vote JL but he isn't playing.

When I say the LV, Dracula, not being random I just mean I doubt if the number generator chose user or twohobbies that Lab would keep it the same.
Doesn't mean neither could be vampires,just not the lead.

I also brought up JB and Rich because if it was handpicked those are 2 I would choose as a Mod or one of my 1st picks as LV.

FF why would you try to act like the hunter or priest? Only way I can see this being a good strategy is if you're a vamp so if we think you are one of the PRs we wouldn't lynch you.

Starting to wonder if FF isn't trying to distance from hobbies.

Aside from the hand-picked-lead-vamp idea I've already commented on... Ice makes a good point in this post about FF's apparent strategy. FF's vote is rather weak. I can see him retracting that one quite easily between now and nightfall.
 
I don't actually see anything vote-worthy thus far. I'll be on more tomorrow and will figure out something to base my vote on as we continue.
 
I have a very busy day so I don't know if I can be home by nightfall. In order to avoid UD, I need to place a vote without much to go on.

FF, well FF makes it too easy to vote for him.

One thing has been nagging at the back of my mind and I couldn't put my finger on it until just now.

If I remember correctly, Noods stated in the sign up that hubby would be gone this weekend so she would have plenty of time for the game.

Look at the time stamp on my post and then look at how many posts she has made so far, I have included all 4 of them here.

:woot: and awaaaay we go!

well, finally ready to settle down for the day. Seems to have been a pretty quiet day but I imagine now that the sun is starting to set over ACville it will get a bit busier.....

I see it got too busy for you to get a word in edgewise.

hhhhmmm, not really much to go on yet except for role playing which i do not have the skill for, so i will refrain & spare you all. LOL
i need a pot of coffee now and have a few things to take care of but will back later to see what/who i can dig up.......bad thing is vamps sleep far under it may prove tricky to flush them out......good thing i have tattooed cross on my shoulder and it is warm enough in ACville for tank tops. just for good measure better get the crucifix out of the jewelry box......

:coffee:

Just caught up and really the only thing I can say is, Wow! FF is back to his usual self, causing confusion & keeping the focus on himself.....not sure this indicates scum but certainly not ruling him out yet.


You post more frequently and input more to help the town when hubby is around to distract you than you do when you have plenty of time for the game.

I vote to stake Noods.
 
You mean like last game when everyone thought you were scum on day one? No wait you were scum on day 1.

Listen FF I'm really trying not to get sucked into this giant lynch FF hole you seem intent on creating but you say things that really make that hard.

I can understand wanting to be challenged but this game all ready seems pretty challenging for you.

You keep saying you read your role and stopped. Well there wasn't much reading on the townie role. Why wouldn't a townie want all the information available about the vamps? Why wouldn't he read their role? I can understand a vamp not worrying about the other roles but I think an innocent would want all the info he could get. Why did you stop reading?

Why pretend to be a PR if your not? Not good for the town and not good for you either if the vamps pick up on it target you. I can see a vamp pretending but can't think of a good reason for a townie to - can you offer one?

I don't remember what i did last game, so maybe i did do the same thing. That just means its not a scum tell, cause i remember doing it games i was innocent to (i think, bad memory, remember).

Im sorry for digging my own grave. I still don't know egzactly how i do it. Im an working on not doing it.

Just the not digging me own grave part. Once i have that down, the game will be much easier for me. (BTW, if anyone has advice on not doing that, PLZ TELL!)

Well, i just assumed that the other roles were the same as all the other games, just with diff names: Mafia/Vamps can turn guys, and get a kill; Innocents can just throw votes and ideas around; doctor/priest can heal/save people; detective/seer gets invests; other gets other :) I also have a lazy problem.

I was try, however badly, to get a vamp to show themselves by jumping on me.

Thats everything you asked for, now it lies with you to decide whether i die or not. (this post was supposed to go through a 9:55, but my Internet goes off at 9:30, and i forgot cause its a weekend. Will post tomorrow, when i wake up) Now, i need to catch up.
 
I just don't think FF is a vampire unless he is solo right now. He is being ultra erratic. I am not sure what I am going to do yet. I am glad we have another day to decide.

This wont help me survive, but for the sake of being truthful, only once have I not been at least somewhat erradic, and that was on a team with help.

his behavior might be erratic, but it really seems like he's trying to confuse us woth all of his ranting and excessive role playing.

Ranting? Where?

Excessive role playing... yes, a little excessive. Oh, and its spelled "with" :D

I am sorry for confusing people, it was a bad stratagy on my part.
 
Wizard makes a good point about Noods there. Yes, I remember she was excited about the fact the hubby wouldn't be around to "distract" her from the game, does seem a bit odd she isn't posting much.

I don't remember what i did last game, so maybe i did do the same thing. That just means its not a scum tell, cause i remember doing it games i was innocent to (i think, bad memory, remember).

Im sorry for digging my own grave. I still don't know egzactly how i do it. Im an working on not doing it.

Just the not digging me own grave part. Once i have that down, the game will be much easier for me. (BTW, if anyone has advice on not doing that, PLZ TELL!)

Well, i just assumed that the other roles were the same as all the other games, just with diff names: Mafia/Vamps can turn guys, and get a kill; Innocents can just throw votes and ideas around; doctor/priest can heal/save people; detective/seer gets invests; other gets other :) I also have a lazy problem.

I was try, however badly, to get a vamp to show themselves by jumping on me.

Thats everything you asked for, now it lies with you to decide whether i die or not. (this post was supposed to go through a 9:55, but my Internet goes off at 9:30, and i forgot cause its a weekend. Will post tomorrow, when i wake up) Now, i need to catch up.
FF why would you want the post to go through at 9:55?
 
I have a very busy day so I don't know if I can be home by nightfall. In order to avoid UD, I need to place a vote without much to go on.

FF, well FF makes it too easy to vote for him.

One thing has been nagging at the back of my mind and I couldn't put my finger on it until just now.

If I remember correctly, Noods stated in the sign up that hubby would be gone this weekend so she would have plenty of time for the game.

Look at the time stamp on my post and then look at how many posts she has made so far, I have included all 4 of them here.

I see it got too busy for you to get a word in edgewise.

You post more frequently and input more to help the town when hubby is around to distract you than you do when you have plenty of time for the game.

I vote to stake Noods.

Vote for me if you wish. Not that I could stop it anyway. Yes, I did say I would have more time and with the exception of the past weekend, I hope to. I was very busy doing other, more important things, like trying to talk hubby thru a full blown panic attack over the phone cause his wonderful crack-head sister took all of mom's money again - money that was needed to move/drive mom cross country....in addition to other important weekend tasks that HAVE to be done, since I am by myself for the time being.....I certainly do not expect you or anyone to believe it but there it is anyway.

I am sorry for confusing people, it was a bad stratagy on my part.

Confusing people is a strategy?!?!?! Wow, just wow!

hope fully a few of the quieter players (i know, me too) will be a little more active today so i can figure out where to place my vote. Back to work, more later.........
 
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