Mafia 73: Werewolf Game!

Okay this game just keeps sucking me in
Good Morning G
It's kind of pathetic at with almost half the people being wolves at this point we can't get one.
It's probably even more pathetic that I'm back here looking again.
 
Mornin Chill, only have a sec so I can't go pulling posts or anything...but Pir stands out to me the most. Then there is the possibility Lab could be working with Dag, the way they go at each other but by the end of the day they vote someone else kinda looks bad to me. Not sure I am sold on that, but it is something that sticks in my mind.
 
Vote Count.

Dag(3):Chill, Lab_Rat, Lady G

Lab_Rat(2): Dag, Lady G, JM1212

Nightfall at 8, or sooner if the town wants.
 
Well, I think this shows IMO he most likely investigated her. He was the "seer" and he says "this is how I see it". If he hadn't actually investigated her, I could understand him sayin he is leaning her innocent because he thought she was looking for scum.

I retract my vote on Lab and vote to lynch Dag


Jm, I'm sorry to "lash" out at you. You have to understand though, and maybe when you read back through after the game you can see where I was coming from. Yes, I have been wrong...I admitted that and moved on, as did others. I obviously could be wrong on this as well...but to me it is where the evidence lies, and where my vote is going.
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Look more at the overall picture, Lady G. Here is how that played out.

Rich stuck his neck out defending me way too strongly on Day 3. That naturally brought many suspecting me at the time to question him. If I was scum, then why would Rich tell everyone he was so certain I was innocent..... UNLESS he had investigated me, found out my role, and had to do anything he could to turn the game back around without getting himself killed? He wouldn't.

We (the CI team) knew at that point Rich must be the Seer. And it only stood to reason the wolves would notice this too. Rich was a dead man at their next hit and he knew that.

Lab Rat had just suggested a scum team of "Kash, JM, Dag, and Rocker/Rich/UN/Piranha..." but said she couldn't decide between the last 4 names.

Dag came along then and asked questions of Lab Rat and Rich.

Dag to Lab Rat: #1138 - "Out of those last four who are your two most suspect and why?"

Dag to Rich: #1143 - "So what changed between last nightfall and this one that now makes you think LR isn't a WW?"

Dag seems to have asked these questions because he also noticed what was going on.

Rich, therefore, could also see for himself that Lab Rat was onto him.

If Rich suspected her as being a werewolf, then he knew he just might be her next hit target. He would also have noticed Dag had just made the same connection and was questioning him and her both about that.

What happened next? Look at Lab Rat's answer.

Lab Rat to Dag: #1144 - "Rich has not been giving me as much of a scummy vibe as he did earlier in the game. Though I still disagree with him on Kash, I no longer feel comfortable voting for him at this point."

Lab Rat backed off. She had already suspected him before but after he stepped out to defend me (her top suspect), she suddenly decided he's not giving her a scummy vibe? :bs: If she was innocent and honestly believed I was evil, she would have suspected Rich even more as being on the wolf team with me.

This is when she or they decided to kill Rich with their next hit. And because Rich was the next person who would die, she disassociated herself from their next kill so no one would suspect she was responsible his death.

I'm sure Rich saw this at the time as easily as I do. And having just found out I was innocent not evil, and knowing he had already defended me as an innocent.... he would naturally look at Lab Rat as a possible werewolf suspect.... who, had just decided she was going to kill him instead of try lynching him.

Rich had PLENTY of motivation at that point to say whatever he could to protect himself.

That is when Rich posted this:

Rich to Dag about Lab Rat: "I see her working hard to find scum, do not completely agree with her, but that is how I see it."

Rich's motivation if you take THAT single post in context shows he was merely trying to stay alive.

Rich was also killed by the werewolves that very next nightfall. Coincidence, Lady G?

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Lady G, if you consider this entire exchange, you can see the post you quoted does NOT prove Lab Rat is innocent. She just wants you to believe it does.

Put yourself in Rich's place as a non-communicating townie Seer who stepped up to defend me from those who were attacking me and knowing he was unlikely to be protected by a non-communicating townie Priest.

Would you have accused Lab Rat openly or implied she was suspect? Of course not. That would be suicide.

You know enough about this game that in that role and in that situation you would be most vulnerable to the werewolf kill. Rich knew this too.
 
Glad I wasn't here last night. It looks like everyone's emotions got the better of them. Poo flinging contests aren't my thing. As far as changing the nightfall time, I think it's only fair to keep it at the time decided after Nightfall by FF. Otherwise, it feels like we're changing the rules mid game because things aren't working out. I know I wasn't here, but I wanted to give my thoughts on it in case it happens again.

As of right now I am finding Dag to be the scummiest. I'm going to do some back reading before placing a vote though. He just has been rabid towards Lab rat the entire game. Even after the seer mentioned her innocence.

I still have a a slight suspicion in Chill but I don't really know where it's coming from. I need to read and refresh my mind. If he is wolf, he's got to be the kindest one ever.

Lab rat and Lady G I feel are both innocent right now. I can't ignore what Rich said about Lab. He mentioned her being innocent more than once, and maybe that's why Dag had him bit? (Thinking out loud here.) Is it possible that Dag's whole goal this game was to harass his sister and have her lynched? Just to really tick her off? Sounds like something a brother would do. I don't have one so someone enlighten me, lol.

I don't have a lot to say about Lady G. I don't get the scummy vibe from her that everyone else has. Don't know what else to say about her other than that.
 
JM, why did you add Chill and Tay to this list now? Was it solely based on the Rocker vote?

Because I think that they helped Lab_rat find someone else to create a tie with. I dont think that you are evil anymore based on let nights outcome and other factors as well. I just think now that labby and chill have been messing with your head like they did UN so you would vote with them. Chill is a definite scum, sorry you're just evil. Tay seems to be more scumm because of her vote on rocker, but I have to say pir's status is questionable as well considering he was mirroring lab_rat earlier in the game. I'm still looking through to decide which one of he two is the third.
 
Chill is the one working with Lab Rat. It's a process of elimination. Look back at his contributions, largely suggestions which lead nowhere and a lot of innuendo. Like getting the town to speculate why Wizard was killed, and so on. And yes, the Rocker vote was lame too. They only used him.... they knew he was innocent and would not fight back, but he was an easy, safe, non-controversial vote for the evils to hide themselves on.
 
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