Mafia 73: Werewolf Game!

[jm1212]

this portion right here, of post number 564

The fact that LR stated that she has to be innocent because she is playing differently, namely by not posting crazy theories is a huge red flag for me. She should not be pointing of how she is playing differently from when she is evil, especially if it is Sindhi g as easily avoided as posting outlandish theories and teams of people.

 

[Lady G]

Ok, so I couldn't sleep so I went back and re-read the thread. My suspect list has undergone some rearranging.

I had Zaffy/jpap as most suspect since I thought they were working together. Obviously I was way wrong about jpap which makes Zaffy drop on my suspect list. He is now back near the neutral zone. The one who rises to the top of my suspect list is Rich. I really can't get over the clearing of JM. A retraction consisting of whoops, that was worded poorly, is lame. Rich, you know everything you write will be scrutinized. I think you were trying to draw heat off of JM. This raises JM onto my suspect list, especially when you add to that him coming out like gangbusters on day 1, then practically disappearing.

I vote to lynch the scummy, flea-bitten mongrel Rich. If Rich shows werewolf my vote will fall on JM next.

You asked where you said Zaffy fell off your list....here ya go Labby.

Ok, I'm a bit delirious after working almost an 11 hour shift on 1 hour of sleep, so bear with me here...



When you hear hoofbeats, think horses, not zebras. My whole reason for lynching Zaffy was that I thought he and jpap were working in tandem. I even stated, iirc, that I would happily vote for jpap. So when jpap showed as a townie, and a PR at that, there is no way I could hold Zaffy as my most scummy suspect. No where did I say he's off my suspect list, just that he's no longer the primary. If you go back and look at their posting, they were "tag-teaming". It was not a case of one following another. Therefore, that drops Zaffy down on my list.

Please, show me where I have defended Zaffy. I don't see it, and he's still on my suspect list.

I would not be so simplistic? JB, you've forgotten how I play when I'm scum. When I am scum, I love to come up with off the wall, yet plausible theories just to confuse the town. So the fact that I'm not throwing crazy ideas out there now makes me scummy? I thought you said you'd played with me a lot before... I'll admit, I haven't invested as much effort into this game (though it's very early in the game still) due to my rl schedule.



WTF are you smoking? My vote didn't follow anyone. In fact, I think I was the first one to make a real vote following nightfall. I listed my reasons for voting for Zaffy, they were legit for the information I had at the time. You may want to lay the crack pipe down now... I'm beginning to wonder just what your agenda is, you are twisting many things to suit your theory.



LG, if you look at the timing and what was posted by Zaffy and jpap, you'll see that one wasn't following the other. Instead, they appeared to be working in tandem, continuing on each others' ideas. Looked like teamwork to me. I wasn't ready to jump all over JM for being aggressive at that point either. I do find it extremely odd how aggressive JM was and now he's totally backed off. After the outcome of nightfall, he has gone up on my suspect list.

Where did I ever say Zaffy fell off my list??? I said he dropped on my list, but he's still on the scummy side of neutral.

No, I can't get over that Rich cleared someone. When he came on right before nightfall and said he misspoke, it made me hesitate about changing my vote to him. I was extremely close to doing so and never dropped Rich from my suspect list. I just thought the tag-team seeming play by jpap and Zaffy was scummier. Tell me, why should I believe Rich that he just "worded it wrong"? Do you trust Rich? Why do you trust Rich? Rich is a low poster who can easily hide when scum. Also, JM and Rich voted together. Between Rich "clearing" JM and the two of them voting together, I decided that my vote best went to Rich. JM is next when Rich shows wolf.



What exactly is pathetic Kash? I've posted my thoughts and I've tried to help the town. You want me to come up with some crazy-assed theory like JB does? I'm trying to sort out who is scum. What was I trying to pull over? Trust me, I love nothing more than creating a crazy story, causing confusion, and laughing at the town when I'm evil. Since I want the town to win, I will not be spewing any far out scumspiracies which would only serve to confuse.


Huh??? At this point I don't "know" anyone is WW, hell, I don't know anyone's role but my own. I think lynching a WW is a great thing, not sure why you don't want to lynch one. Why are you so defensive of Rich? Do you not find it scummy that he "cleared" JM?



Didn't drop it Rich, in my mind it was still scummy. As explained above, I just thought the dynamic duo seemed scummier.



Please, oh please, tell me where I have defended Zaffy. Did you get that from the BS novel that JB posted? If so, you may want to go back and re-read since he twisted things all around for his little theory. I never thought of you as a skimmer Kash, I always thought you were thorough.



Pray tell, where did I ever try to sway anyone into killing JM? Please, quote where that occurred. That line just absolutely reeks of BS.



OMFG, do you people know how to read??? He never dropped off my list. Dropped closer to neutral, still on the scummy side though, for the freaking last time. No duh they couldn't be communicating, I realized that once jpap's role was revealed. I'm inclined now to believe that they both had similar thoughts and posted them around the same time, coincidentally. If you care to actually go back and read, you'll see that neither one was following, it seemed like teamwork. I've not cleared a freaking person in this game, stop trying to put words in my mouth.




Obviously the two of you could not have been working in tandem since jpap was hunter. That is why you have been lowered on my suspect list and Rich has taken your place.

You DID say he dropped off your list Lab, as I showed in the first quote of this post, so why do you continue to ask ppl where you said it?

As for your response to JB about how you play scummy...well to me if you realize others know this about you, wouldn't you change that? Pointing out the fact your are not play as you do when scummy, that just cracks me up and draws more attention to you IMO.

As far as the "timing" of Pap and Zaffs posts, yep they were one after another....AFTER Pap would post a thought, Zaff would follow with the same thought. Really if you look at how it played out, it doesn't look like they were playing "together" it looks like Zaff was hanging on and following Paps every post and thought.

Nope...I don't trust Rich, I trust NO ONE at this point...but with all the other stuff, being denied, or not answered, by others he DID answer the question.

 

[Lady G]

okay now I'm going to reread all that again - and while I'm at that anyone want to speculate on why the scum hit Wiz?

I hate trying to figure out why the scum do what they do, I get all goofy thoughted :yuck:
I would think it is because he is a good player who digs alot.

I understand that you'd rather not quote the whole thing, but would you mind quoting the relevant snippet? Just so we can see exactly the portion you have issue with. I think that would really help the town nail this flea bag.



If you've got her caught in a lie like you say, let's run with this! just that one quote if you don't mind though.

Did you read the post he was talking about? I thought it was pretty clear which portion he was meaning...I mean he did say it.
You, sure like to keep ppl going back and refinding things that are obvious Zaff.

 

[Zaffy]

I would not be so simplistic? JB, you've forgotten how I play when I'm scum. When I am scum, I love to come up with off the wall, yet plausible theories just to confuse the town. So the fact that I'm not throwing crazy ideas out there now makes me scummy? I thought you said you'd played with me a lot before... I'll admit, I haven't invested as much effort into this game (though it's very early in the game still) due to my rl schedule.

this portion right here, of post number 564

The fact that LR stated that she has to be innocent because she is playing differently, namely by not posting crazy theories is a huge red flag for me. She should not be pointing of how she is playing differently from when she is evil, especially if it is Sindhi g as easily avoided as posting outlandish theories and teams of people.

You actually make a decent point. It seems kinda weak, and she doesn't ever really state that she "has" to be innocent. But, People often do change their play styles when they have different roles, so it's totally plausible.

I don't know if I'm WOWed enough to vote for her yet.

 

[jbradt]

You actually make a decent point. It seems kinda weak, and she doesn't ever really state that she "has" to be innocent. But, People often do change their play styles when they have different roles, so it's totally plausible.

I don't know if I'm WOWed enough to vote for her yet.

:laugh:

Don't worry, Zaffy. When I was evil last game, I put off voting for Wiz as long as I could. I feel for ya, dude. It's hard to vote for a teammate.

 

[Lady G]

okay now I'm going to reread all that again - and while I'm at that anyone want to speculate on why the scum hit Wiz?

Have anything to add yet Chill? I know you said you asked a question and was waiting for an answer. This is the only question I see, so is this what you are waiting for?
You also said you were going to reread, so any thoughts?

 

[Kashta]

I understand that you'd rather not quote the whole thing, but would you mind quoting the relevant snippet? Just so we can see exactly the portion you have issue with. I think that would really help the town nail this flea bag.



If you've got her caught in a lie like you say, let's run with this! just that one quote if you don't mind though.

Aww, poor Zaffy. I wasn't interested in debating this back and forth with you. Then Rich wouldn't play along either, would he? So maybe you can entice JM to go for it.... not a bad try, Zaff. Ya gotta come up with something to try turning the game back around, don't you? Good effort there, dude.

Does that mean you're ready to vote Labby, Zaff?

I'm ready to vote several people. If JM wows us with his insight, she could be one of them.

Of course, if all else fails you might as well turn on your own teammate at this point. Sacrificing Lab Rat as a lost cause to try saving yourself now is about all there's left for you to do. (Pity you didn't think of that earlier.... but then neither of you saw this coming.)

Leaving that up to JM to do all your digging for you, however? Gee, I don't see what prevents you from doing that yourself.... you have the paws for it.

You're a good player, Zaffy, and an intelligent one. No reason I can think of why you can't read this thread yourself, pull whatever posts you want, and make your own case.

You have done that before... plenty of times... when you were innocent.

 

[Taysius]

I've been doing a lot of reading here. Zaffy is being very wishy washy about everything. Makes me feel pretty good about my vote on him.

 

[Lady G]

All my ex-girlfriends say I'm emotionally constipated, so it's not likely.

I think you're Scummy McScumpants (JB stole that from me first) for believing Rich. His story is awful.

If that is what you think, well then go right ahead and put the vote there.

 

[Taysius]

Another note, where is Rocker? Haven't really seen him since he lynched himself.