Mafia #74...ACville Penitentiary!

[jpappy789]

Interesting points Jb, especially since Zaffy was the last person to vote and had some sudden realization about UN. Going from UN being a confused newb to where you put your vote without one word as to why? What case specifically did you finally see Zaffy?

I also missed this earlier but you mentioned that Jm wasn't suspicious just because he mixed two people's names up. You must have skimmed that whole conversation because that was NOT what me and Lab were arguing. You may not have agreed with our conclusions but seriously, if all you got from that was Jm confusing names then you didn't read. You admittedly didn't read much, but you don't need to read in order to put up a suspect list

I'm not sure I want to buy the whole sarcasm routine either. It is one thing to get sarcastic (IMO) as a form of defense, and I have done that plenty of times as both innocent and scum out of frustration, but it seems rather unprovoked. I understand having fun and joking around, but you laid it on pretty thick all the way to the end there...

 

[jbradt]

As far as JM... I've gone back and looked through his posts. I'm willing to accept his d1 as a HUGE mistake. I'm not letting him off the hook by any means. JM, you are still a big suspect to me, and I expect to see something sigificant over the course of d2.

 

[jpappy789]

6 people watching and 5 are invisible......who's afraid to show their faces?

I've been invisible probably since after my first game. Just no point in changing it...

 

[jbradt]

2H:
I haven't pulled all 11 posts, because they were Largely :bs:. Here's the stuff I found that was actually game related.

So what do we have this morning.

JB trying to sell kids. That's frowned upon everywhere...even in here.

Zaffy trying to cut a deal with the warden, almost sounds like he's pissed he's not a snitch.

Word in the joint that someone has an X-box. Could get you shanked before nightfall if that's true.

Eveyone seems to be talking about moving. Makes me wonder what they know I don't. Some of you have plans on getting out of here?

And Vixon walking the halls all night. What's up with that? Then again she scares me to much to put my vote there.

Apparently, me, Zaffy and Vixen are suspects here. But I'm having trouble figuring out whether any of this is actual suspicion or joking. What say you, 2H? This is also the infamous slip re: Zaffy. It did take you a while to answer that question, 2H even though a couple people asked you about it. That worries me. If you are evil, maybe you took what Pir said about ignoring a question once to heart? He played a good game last time as scum... I can see another noob picking up on his hints.

Ice Im A

As far as snitches, I agree with 3, or 4

No Taysius, I don't know if he's a snitch, but thank you anyway for highlighting the whole sentence unlike lab who wanted everyone to just see the four words "he's not a snitch". Seemed kind of ironic coming from someone who wants people to take reading courses!

I felt there were a few inmates that after almost 24 hours of "nothing posts" were like me looking for the game to get started. I kicked at four different people looking for something to happen.

I don't actually see how any innocent would be unhappy to see this game get started, but I do understand how the snitches would be upset!

Finally you answer the question. Did you feel responding to Tay would be easier than Labby? Also, who did you kick at... and when? I looked though all your posts and I must have missed that part... :huh:.

User you REALLY need to get into the game. I posted all the rules for you. Please take the time to read them all.

Pot, meet kettle. You can call UN out for not being "into the game", but at least he's posting and giving people a chance to read him. Let me reiterate that you've posted 11 times since the start of the game, and most of it has been pointless. (That being said, UN is on deck for scrutiny).

Sorry if you asked me to respond, I must have missed it. I did see that you requested comments from most vets playing, but not me.

2H's response to Labby pointing out that he didn't answer her question about his comment re: Zaffy when he was asked before. Not sure if I buy it.

I need to leave and can't be around for nightfall, so I need to place a vote.

Jm screwed up, but I'm willing to let it go for now as human error.

UN has been lost for most of the game, I don't understand why you would play the game but not read any of the rules.

Pir played a good game last game, was that all LR & Tay? I'm going to say he's trying to change up his game to through us off.

I VOTE TO SHANK PIR

So you voted an innocent. That happens and I can't fault you for it. But where was any suspicion on Pir before this post? Did you really vote him because he played a good game last time? You call out UN for not reading the rules... I don't understand why you would play the game and not bother to post anything related. This all seems really off to me 2H. And "missing" this post or failing to respond will likely draw my d2 vote.

 

[jbradt]

As promised... UN:

two hobbies has played before, he was in the vampire one. (numer 73 i think?)

Your right, there isn't really anyone else scummy in my mind yet. I just got home, and have family stuff tonight, but I'll try to skim through right now....

This is about 2H. User, you posted a LOT before this post (this was around 300 I think), but it was all :bs:. In fact, I feel like I need to apologize to 2H a little bit for giving you credit for posting so much.

I agree, it seems like you are automatically clearing people on day 1.
I also don't like that you have such a clear cut list, was that sent to you from the wardens office?
I vote to lynch/shank piranhaha

Here is where UN jumps on JM's "mistake" and votes Pir. Seems a little odd after saying 2H was his only scumspect.

:iagree: although there could always be less or more if LG wanted to mix things up.

Numbers :bs:.

:iagree:

Maybe we should slow down a bit here, remember that JM was almost lynched last game for making a mistake on day 1, and he turned up innocent. I would hate to see him get shanked for making a mistake and letting it turn into a death for him, and a loss for the town. (or prison, whatever:huh

HOWEVER, all the point made against him are valid, and maybe he was trying to plant evidence there.

After considering all this bickering, I really can't decide. Piranha seems jumpy, and I still don't like that he made a list so early in the day. Until I see a more convincing bad guy, my vote sticks with Pir.

At least there's a little bit of a reason given here. Would have sat easier with me if these had been the reasons in the vote post, rather than JM's thoughts.

I just realized I FF'd up. big time. I misread the post by pir, and had based my post off of what he said. The only other people I have found scummy are 2H and JM. Don't really know where to place my vote, but I don't want to UD.

I don't know what to think of this post. Pappy asked before UN, and I don't see a response here... which post did you misread? And whose was it?

I'm confused!! :yuck:

My problem has been that I haven't had a whole lot of time to be posting (until the last 10 minutes or so) and I've only seen a handful of posts, I saw the mistake now, and I realize where I messed up. Remember that this exact thing happened with JM last game, don't want to see a repeat of it.

Frankly, UN; I find it hard to believe you haven't had "a whole lot of time to be posting", or that you've "only seen a handful of posts". You've posted quite a bit and responded to many posts.

I'm stuck between 2H and Pir, but I'll break a tie if there is good suspicion in my mind that someone is a snitch.

I don't get this post at all... UN had already voted, and on one of the peeps he was going to break the tie against? Can you explain your thinking here, UN?

???? Explain?


I agree, that doesn't seem like a very solid argument there. I would like you to explain a bit more vixen, most of your posts seem distancing and vague.



I want to break up this tie, but I don't find anyone scummier than Pir or Vixen right now. Pir's posts were quite scattered, along with JM. We shouldn't count them out, but their play seems scummy to me. Bally and 2Hobbies aren't atop my snitch list, but there is still a bit of suspicion.

Vixen's posts have seemed confusing and misleading IMO so I'm going to vote her for lack of a better option. I vote to lynch Vixen

This makes the last post make even less sense. I think Ice pointed it out at the time. User, did you start drinking before you started posting? And what's with the unofficial second vote? I'm having trouble figuring out if you're really as confused as you seem to be, or if you're full of crap.

My vote is subject to change as the night progresses, and if more slip-ups by JM and Pir occur than my vote will change. Maybe they really did just make honest mistakes......

Right, your vote is subject to change since you DIDN'T REALLY CHANGE IT ALREADY. This makes me think the unofficial change was planned as opposed to a mistake...

You really have something against Lab and Pap don't you?



Awww! Thank you so much for displaying those rules for me!



Uh... what? It's good to question players that slip up about their evil/scum roles because it helps you learn more about how the bad guys are, and it helps the town.

More about Vixen.

how can you ask for your comments to be disregarded, when you won't leave mistakes by other players alone? If someone hadn't called you out, I bet you wouldn't have retracted your statements....

To Noods.

I'm really starting to reconsider my vote. There seems to be plenty of people running around like crazy right now, and I want to make sure that I'm positive on my vote so that we don't get an innocent tonight. JM was confusing in the beggining, and his info seemed misleading, however I can see where the excessive list making could crucify Pir. My vote may change if someone else posts something scummy....

How positive do you really expect to be, UN. How positive were you about Pir? Psst... he was innocent.

I'm not trying to blame it on you, I just want to make sure that we get the right guy. (or girl) Bally was right, you do seem quite defensive with that post....

Again with wanting to be sure...

I just read that, and yeah it did send off red flags that you would explain to everyone that you were trying to hide your vote. You didn't need to explain that, as just the vote alone would have clued me in on what you were trying to do. What I don't understand is why are you trying to attract so much attention on yourself now?

Comment on Zaffy calling himself out for being scummy... I have no idea how to interpret this post. At all. Even a little. I think FF really is playing.

I actually have had you near the top of my list for awhile. The way you and zaffy keep posting, it's almost like you are both trying to distract me off of Pir. I don't understand why, as you lead the charge on Pir in the beggining. Maybe you were trying to distance yourself, or whatever but your post was a wake up call for me.

To JM. Again... No real clue here.

that was not good. not good at all.....

Thanks for the input...

I'm reserving judgment on UN, as I am on everyone. I have trouble thinking anyone could be that confused. But I also have trouble believing anyone would purposely act so confused. I'd like to hear a response, UN. Like 2H; failing to respond will likely draw my vote.

 

[jbradt]

Those posts pretty much sum up my top suspects atm. Not to say that anyone's been cleared in my book, but I haven't seen anything overtly scummy in other people's posting. That may well change as I think/read some more. But I'm interested in what these folks have to say.

 

[jpappy789]

I've wanted UN to answer to his whole vote switching thing as well as what post he misread for a while now. He has failed to address either, especially the latter portion which was well over 100 posts ago. And it's not like I was the only one to call him out for the post about his "vote" on Vix. Ice, I think it was, caught that and more people said his post made no sense. All the vote counts posted still had him on Pir. But he never acknowledged it. No "ooops" and no correction. Just kept saying he wanted to move...

He responded to Lab when she questioned the misreading by playing the confused card. Seems like total BS as you already said JB given that he's been posting plenty. Perhaps you should spend less time posting and more time reading?

Anyways, after I posted my question as to which post he misread he ignored it and even quoted one of my posts after that so I know he isn't just ignoring me completely. He's just ignoring the issue since I asked him again this afternoon.

He's had time to respond and had time to move votes as he kept saying he wanted to but spent the time before nightfall babbling.

Maybe he is confused, but I didn't see this type of behavior last game when he was innocent. Granted, he was the priest but he didn't seem to fully realize the importance of the role until later in the game anyways. This time it feels like his teammates told him to appear to be helpful and took off and went rogue with the idea.

I feel confident with UN as a suspect, even now, but votes are so precious in this format that I will hold up at least until he answers...or not. I wouldn't be surprised if he ignored this too.

 

[jpappy789]

Just doing some more reading... found this exchange to be somewhat comical...

I guess I misinterpreted it. First he asked what everyone else's list was and then immediatley after he made another post, which I read as his list, meaning 'I, myself have' - Vixen, Bally and 2H....

I see what you are saying Jpap I was obviously way off on that post - please disregard my comments about Vixen going on and off his list. That's what I get for trying to pull posts while being interrupted at work.

how can you ask for your comments to be disregarded, when you won't leave mistakes by other players alone? If someone hadn't called you out, I bet you wouldn't have retracted your statements....

UN tries to call out Noods for misreading Pir's post but seems to forget that he too did the exact same thing.

Calling someone a hypocrite while being a hypocrite...does that make you even more hypocritical?

 

[jbradt]

I think that would be hypocritical squared... :huh:?

 

[Ballyhoo]

doubleplus hypocrite