Mafia #77 Game thread- Back to the basics

[the wizard]

Hey Rich guess what Kashta said .........

Seriously though I guess the best way to resolve this is to lynch hayden. He does seem to be a common thread to this.

If I am wrong, sorry hay we need to know in order to move on.

I vote to lynch Hay

 

[Haydn24]

wanted to get this out there before i forget while catching up in the game.



scum often will sacrifice one of there own. It is a team, "scum TEAM" if the scum win, the one sacrificed wins as well. The game isn't about can I live to the end it is about if the innocent TEAM wins or the scum TEAM wins.

Get it?



If he is right lynch him and we lose all invests the rest of the game. Scum is scum, doesn't matter vet or noob. IMO with the controversy put before us Hay makes the best lynch candidate. (unless something else show prior to nightfall)


got to go back and finish catching up now

This is not what I ment. I ment why would the scum lynch one of their own when there are 4 easy targets and it's not nessacery to lynch one of their own. Get it?

 

[jm1212]

You do realize that I don't believe Rich, correct? When I RC'd, I had 5 votes for me. I knew I'm dying tonight one way or another. So what do I do? Sit there and hope I don't get voted (which isn't going to happen) or let the town know that Haydn is scum? Yeah, I'm probably going to get hit tonight, Haydn said so himself, but at least we know for sure a member of the mafia.

there were 5 votes on you, yes, but there were still plenty of other people that hadn't even voted yet. in fact, i would go as far to say that if you hadn't RC'd Salt would be just as much in the running as you right now.

There was a 90% chance I would have gotten lynched, so why would I stay quiet. I now realize that I'm going to get hit, but at least we will have caught one scum.

Again, there is no way to say that. there have been plenty of times that early in the Day i have 6 or 7 votes but by the end, im not even in the running to be lynched. not everyone had voted, and there were plenty of other suspects at the time.

sweet. confirmed innocent here we come! I've already put my list out there. That hasn't changed throughout the day. My vote will stay on Rich until he's lynched or proven innocent. I'm also all for Haydn being lynched. opcorn:

so did you just skim over my questions to you, or are you ignoring them? again, you say that you are all for Haydn being lynched, yet you keep your vote on Rich. this is while your buddy Pir, the supposed detective, garners more and more votes as the day goes on and may in fact be tied with Haydn. if you are so sure that Haydn is scum, why are you still voting for Rich? oh yeah...you're scum too.

 

[the wizard]

This is not what I ment. I ment why would the scum lynch one of their own when there are 4 easy targets and it's not nessacery to lynch one of their own. Get it?

To have one member of their team believable. If the town believes a member of the scum team, he is golden and will not be lynched.

 

[jm1212]

To have one member of their team believable. If the town believes a member of the scum team, he is golden and will not be lynched.

after this circus though, i doubt that will be the case.

 

[Haydn24]

Gah! Your wasting a day here town this is what's going to happen tonight:
I'm going to get lynched and rich is gonna get hit. The town will lose a detective and a townie. Then you will all look back and realize how scummy pirana has been. When he had his back against the wall he was desperate so he pulled out saying he was the detective and investigated me as scum to get the town to jump on me. I guess it worked but your going to lose a real detective because he tried to save me but no one would listen.

So after tonight the town will know two mafia (pir and zaffy) but have lost 4 innocent members already (2 being PRs).

End of story.

 

[jpappy789]

Pir- Zaf 634, Haydn 731, Dawg 753, Razz 762, DD 817, Rich 897, LG 953, Bally 1016, Haydn 1017, 2H 1030
Haydn- Pir 637, Pir 843, Razz 844, Zaffy 846, Dawg 890, DD 909, Chill 1008, Kash 1079, Wiz 1081
Salt- User 673, Pir 824, Bally 845
Zaf- Rich 797, User 869, Haydn 1010
Rich- JB 800, Lady G 972

No votes:
Jm, Mav, Salt

Nightfall in about 2 hours

 

[the wizard]

Gah! Your wasting a day here town this is what's going to happen tonight:
I'm going to get lynched and rich is gonna get hit. The town will lose a detective and a townie. Then you will all look back and realize how scummy pirana has been. When he had his back against the wall he was desperate so he pulled out saying he was the detective and investigated me as scum to get the town to jump on me. I guess it worked but your going to lose a real detective because he tried to save me but no one would listen.

So after tonight the town will know two mafia (pir and zaffy) but have lost 4 innocent members already (2 being PRs).

End of story.

Again, as I stated earlier, you solution to this dilemma is to what? Oh yeah, lynch one of the two claiming to be det. not a very pro town stand if you ask me.
:shakehead:

The risk to the town is too great. We don't know which one is lying.

 

[maverickbr77]

Sorry to joim the party so late guys

so, are you role claiming here?

How did you not see that was a RC?

I felt like I had the best chance of catching scum from noobs. There were 3 first times, Mav, Haydn, Salt. Mav hardly plays, I X'ed him out, so I had to decide b/t Haydn and Salt. If I would have had more time, I probably would have decided on Salt, but I had 5 minutes to choose and after some quick skimming, I decided on Haydn. Haydn really sounds like he's being coached.

Yeah, I guess. Haydn sounds like he's being coached.

Shhhhh I don't want the scum to figure it out! But, yeah I am.

Third game for me this one the last one and one like a year ago. I am also quiet because I don't like regurgitating others ideas so I wait untill I find something people aren't talking about or a new side to it to post.

...maybe :grinyes: Anyway, I RC's because nobody was listening and at least we'll get rid of one scum.

Just because no one jumpped right in didn't mean we werent listening. I heard you from a long time ago people were trying to look at other people as well no need to go full RC yet.

There was a 90% chance I would have gotten lynched, so why would I stay quiet. I now realize that I'm going to get hit, but at least we will have caught one scum.

Way to early to think that things can change rapidly in this game. You have supposedly read up on them and should know this.


Here is how I see it right now.

If we lynch Pir. or Rich we risk killing the Det. ourselves and giving the mafia a free shot at someone else. Then we lynch the fake det and whoever the real dets invest was. Or we get the right one and the det gets hit and we lynch their invest next.

If we lynch Zaffy and he shows innocent and the mafia hits Pir we can then lynch Rich and hayden. If Zaffy shows mafia and Rich is hit we lynch Pir next. If Zaffy shows scum and mafia hits a random target we are left with 2 det. Rich who may be real or threw a comrad under the bus. And Pir who could still be telling the truth if Rich threw a teammate under the bus.

Both the possible det. say Hayden is scum/likely scum. If we lynch him and he is scum, the mafia hits a random target and we are left with the same type of situation as if Zaffy is scum. If Hayden is innocent mafia hits Rich we lynch Zaffy and Pir next.

It looks like any way we go its a draw to me, however Pirs timing and reasoning is not sitting well with me more so than what I have seen from anyone else involved in this so I vote to lynch Pir

 

[Kashta]

Gah! Your wasting a day here town this is what's going to happen tonight:
I'm going to get lynched and rich is gonna get hit. The town will lose a detective and a townie. Then you will all look back and realize how scummy pirana has been. When he had his back against the wall he was desperate so he pulled out saying he was the detective and investigated me as scum to get the town to jump on me. I guess it worked but your going to lose a real detective because he tried to save me but no one would listen.

So after tonight the town will know two mafia (pir and zaffy) but have lost 4 innocent members already (2 being PRs).

End of story.

I must have missed something. Who tried to save you?