Mafia #77 Game thread- Back to the basics

[Zaffy]

then how did you know that his computer wasnt working?

He told me in our chat after nightfall.

 

[dirtydawg10]

He told me in our chat after nightfall.

You can really chat with him in the ghost chat after this nightfall. I hope he gives you a:nutkick:

 

[Zaffy]

Game Rules:
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(1) Detective: You have the ability to snoop through the background of the citizens of the town in order to root out the mafia. Each night you will be granted an investigation result on the person of your choosing. If you investigate the doctor and/or the vigilante you may begin to communicate with them. All roles will be revealed.

(1) Vigilante: You have taken it upon yourself to find the mafia yourself. You have the power to kill one person throughout the course of the game. You may use this hit at any point in the game. If the detective finds you via investigation you may communicate. Upon your death, if you could communicate with the Detective you may continue to do so.

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You can really chat with him in the ghost chat after this nightfall. I hope he gives you a:nutkick:

He's not in Ghost chat.

 

[the wizard]

After careful consideration and reflection. I have always laughed at the pocket mafia thing as being ridiculous.

I in no way believe pir's story about saving Rich. IIRC Rich role claimed after pir. So in my estimation he is scum.

However, Zaffy was named by Rich so

I retract my vote on Pir and vote to lynch Zaffy.

 

[maverickbr77]

The mafia could kill the vigilante before he/she kills Zaffy. If we've gone ahead to lynch someone else -- anyone else -- instead, then that gives then two more game days instead of only one game day for someone else to become or be made into a "prime" suspect to draw the lynch later on.

Two reasons:

1. Believe me, as often as I have been the overall town's intended "next lynch" ... for conclusive reasons when I was evil... I've still successfully managed to stay alive by getting the town to delay lynching me "just one more day."

You know this, Wizard..... as often as I've talked about it. Don't even try to pretend you don't. I know better.

2. Our lynch is our only guaranteed way of killing Zaffy, but only as long as the scum team doesn't mess with it. The vigilante's shot is a maybe. Whether it's probably or not... it's only a maybe.

If the mafia thinks they've got a good idea who our vigilante is... and we rely on them to kill Zaffy for us... then we're screwed if the mafia hit kills the vigilante and we let Zaffy off the hook too.

Keep arguing the case, guys.... it only shows you trying to confuse the vigilante or the town.

This makes much more sence thank you.

 

[Ballyhoo]

I feel bad for you Wiz so here is your own personal noob card with your picture.

lol looks like the kid from the pagemaster

He told me in our chat after nightfall.

well if it's just you in the chat now, why don't you go ahead and post it.
I vote to lynch Zaffy


tomorrow is my major class day, I'm in class from 9a,-7pm so I wont be on very often.

 

[Kashta]

If we wait we may not get to use the hit. If the mafia hit the vig tonight the hit won't go through. We shouldn't wait if we have confirmed scum.

You forgot this post Kash.

Yes, I missed that one, Dawg. I can only post one at a time and when there are so many in between the next time I see the thread, I'm sure to miss a few while I'm typing. That's why I'm also back-tracking to look for one I've missed.

In answer to that... we HAVE a confirmed scum: Zaffy. And Rich gave up his life to make sure we know it. Our job now is to follow through and kill Zaffy ourselves.

IF we get lucky and the vigilante survives long enough to take out the next likely target as well... that's a plus and we'll manage to kill 2 evils at the same time. But we cannot rely on that when the mafia has a very good chance of hitting them first, based on the order of nightfall events.

IF we're not lucky and the mafia kills our vigilante before the shot is fired, the very last thing we should have riding on that possibility is a definite kill of the only proven/confirmed mafia name we have.

Zaffy needs to be our lynch. That requires a simple majority vote.

If half the town wants to lynch him while the other half thinks it's safe enough to let the vigilante kill him... guess what, the mafia (with 5 votes) will then CONTROL THE LYNCH.

Basic mafia strategy there, folks.

 

[Lady G]

Yes, well all the better. We still don't need to alter our town lynch of a confirmed scum or interfere (possibly misdirect) the vigilante's shot. That's the last remaining power the town has. Leave it alone.

I agree, we should not be telling the Vig what to do. We have a confirmed mafia we need to take him.

whoever is the real vigilante, do NOT answer his call. stay hidden.

OMG, yes DO NOT COME OUT!!!!!

I didn't hit Pir last night because I figured that the town would see him for what he is, that way we could lynch him for free and I could use the hit on another scum.

OK :thud:

I'm at a total loss though, I need your help on this one.

I can help ya...how bout you use your hit on yourself :duh:

The mafia could kill the vigilante before he/she kills Zaffy. If we've gone ahead to lynch someone else -- anyone else -- instead, then that gives then two more game days instead of only one game day for someone else to become or be made into a "prime" suspect to draw the lynch later on.

Two reasons:

1. Believe me, as often as I have been the overall town's intended "next lynch" ... for conclusive reasons when I was evil... I've still successfully managed to stay alive by getting the town to delay lynching me "just one more day."

You know this, Wizard..... as often as I've talked about it. Don't even try to pretend you don't. I know better.

2. Our lynch is our only guaranteed way of killing Zaffy, but only as long as the scum team doesn't mess with it. The vigilante's shot is a maybe. Whether it's probably or not... it's only a maybe.

If the mafia thinks they've got a good idea who our vigilante is... and we rely on them to kill Zaffy for us... then we're screwed if the mafia hit kills the vigilante and we let Zaffy off the hook too.

Keep arguing the case, guys.... it only shows you trying to confuse the vigilante or the town.

Agree 100%!!! A lynch to Zaff is the only way at this point

His computer wasn't working in time to post the truth about me before nightfall.

Mhmm, forgive me for not believing you on this one Zaff.

Both pir and Zaffy have to go. What order they go in means little to me.
We have Zaffy confirmed scum by det so let the vig have at him if they so choos.
If more of you would rather lynch Zaffy we can leave Pir to the vig's discression.
Juat make sure the vote isnt close at nightfall so the scum can move last min and lynch an innocent on us.

My vote will be on Zaffy or Pir today and if one is still left tomorrow it will be on that person.

My next one is likely to go to Kash for the insanity above that would end with the mafia having more chances at hitting the vig before they used their shot.

Ok, I get ya on the first part of this post...but what are you trying to say there about Kash, I'm not getting your point there?

 

[Zaffy]

lol looks like the kid from the pagemaster



well if it's just you in the chat now, why don't you go ahead and post it.
I vote to lynch Zaffy


tomorrow is my major class day, I'm in class from 9a,-7pm so I wont be on very often.

Check the rules, we can still communicate after death.

 

[Ballyhoo]

But Lab is gone, so no doctor to protect. Rich is gone, so no detective to protect. You have already RC'd so there is no hiding you. So what's the harm Zaffy?