Mafia 80: Ghost Hunters

[noodles62]

I have to get some work done - be back later...........

 

[jpappy789]

What 180? Because my suspision backed down on Bally? I did not have anything concrete on her and I was satisfied with the answers she had to questions tht were put to her. :huh:

What others? I already stated my thoughts on Bally and Hay. The others would be you, Wiz and the 2 that have RC'd. oh, of course there is Rich; good old middle of the road Rich! Have no read on him at all.....as I said Piggy pings the meter the most....

The 180 is in reference to the towns general thoughts. You threw out NPR as the murderer out of left field.

At this point it looks like you're grasping. You have no read on anyone else and I'd hardly call your thoughts on NPR a case.

 

[Ballyhoo]

After much review, and the interactions on the thread last night, I studied the vote counts before starting this post.

The bickering between Bally and Hay has been going on continually. But, and this is the interesting part, Hay's final vote has never been on Bally.

Hay's votes on the final counts were, FF, UN, and Razz. Why is that?

Hay gave answers to why he never changed his vote to Bally as much as he says he wanted to. However, his reasoning seemed to change as time went on.

He stated that when he wasn't in danger of dieing he couldn't have known that the other votes wouldn't have fallen on him. That is a weak excuse to NOT vote your top suspect. As I pointed out, he had no reason to know that those who had yet to vote would vote as they did. Or that UN would switch his vote. He still had time to change his vote if he needed to to save himself. Others had suspect Bally off and on through out the game.

What the scum really need and their goal all along was to turn a GH or two. According to the rules, they would then have someone that could communicate in both boards, but would be working for the scum.

With the murderer alive, the hit is 50/50 turn/kill. With the murderer gone the hit is 50/50 kill/nothing. It isn't as big a loss to lose someone that was turned as it is to lose the murderer.

It was safe for Bally to leave her vot on Hay on D1 as FF had posted in such a way that it didn't take much for him to get pushed over the edge. Noods says NP called FF out to get him lynched, Bally used the fact that JB posted the weather map to cover her backside on voting him. However, her story changed a couple of times and the final excuse was that UN said that JB was not a GH.

When the heat came down, she disappeared for a while. Then came back on to state that she was doing more harm than good to the town. Waaaah! and BOO Hoo it worked. Her statements got many of us to look in other directions for awhile.

Then she comes back on and bickers with hay again. Bally IMO is very important to the scum team. Without her, all they can do is hopefully kill a gh instead of the chance to get them working for her.

Yes, as I see it, Bally is the murderer.

I vote to take the soul of Bally.

Noods, your case is weak...you do a complete 180 on the town and vote for someone because they could be the murderer...based on nothing. Do you really only see him as evil? What about others?

Bally, unless I missed it can you say who you suspect other than Hay?

I'm having a hard time with those who RC'd.
Kash - said we can't trust her after last nightfall and that she will lie. The night fall events don't say that anyone was switched and unless I missed something it was never stated that someone was. Therefor I have a hard time believing when Kash says she wasn't switched. Also, she didn't use the vial, which she said she would. The fact that she said she protected UN is also kinda hinky to me. There is no proof she protected him and he came out and RC'd which makes it easy to say he was the one she protected. She used knowledge from the thread that everyone knew. It is possible to believe his RC and it is safe to say she protected him. It's safe because most people believe at least 80% that his RC was true and he is still here.

Piggy is starting to worry me, he has been flying fairly low lately. Yes his internet cuts off at a certain time but while he is here he doesn't have much to say.

 

[Ballyhoo]

the other quote was still in the box didn't mean to quote it.

 

[jpappy789]

If you had to vote now Bally, who would you vote for and why?

 

[rich311k]

Noods I cant figure what you are trying to do the only thing I can think of is to pull attention away from some one else. Only one reason to do something like that.

I vote to take the soul of Noodles.

 

[Ballyhoo]

Do you have thoughts on anyone beside Hay? What do you think of Bally dancing around about the rules to get JB killed off?

What do you mean dancing around about the rules?

 

[rich311k]

What do you mean dancing around about the rules?

I meant you 'forgot' that a GH would not get the role of a player when they did an invest.

 

[Ballyhoo]

If you had to vote now Bally, who would you vote for and why?

If I had to vote right now I'd keep my vote on Hay. I mentioned above that I don't like how he keeps fighting with me all day and then voting someone else at the last minute. If he's always away, how does he have a reason to vote someone else after saying he thinks im scum, then changing his mind and then saying I am but not voting me. His reasons for changing his vote at the last minute are shaky and inconsistent.

I'd like to hear more from piggy, particularly the post I quoted a while back. About him going on about how I was attacking razz and wix.

 

[Ballyhoo]

I meant you 'forgot' that a GH would not get the role of a player when they did an invest.

I never stated that.
I never quoted any of the rules in my argument against JB.