Mafia 80: Ghost Hunters

[Ballyhoo]

^^ in response to chill's question

 

[Lab_Rat]

Now that I've had some sleep hopefully I can contribute more. First thing, I was surprised how hard Wiz went after FF, then he goes and pulls his vote off him. Seems weird to change that quickly. Now with Haydn, the comment about banter doesn't sit well with me. I did not see banter or distancing between Wiz and FF. But I'm not sure I can vote for Haydn at this point as he may be making the mistake of confusing quantity of posts with quality of posts. His posts (besides the bantering thing about Wiz and FF) have seemed more noobish than scummy. And his vote for Rich is total OMGUS (it made me lol). Can't figure out what he meant by a train, unless it was the shift of attention towards him.

found a minute to grab the quotes between classes.

this is what I was talking about. They both need to come back with the proper timing, or new spark plugs. Cars just don't seem very FF to me.

Last time I got new spark plugs in my car, the mechanic threaded them wrong, it blew, and I had to get a new car. Of course his response was that these things happen. And because it was a friend of a friend and I didn't go through the business he worked at I had no recourse.

But back to the game, I see FF's brain runs on 4 cylinders, I run on 8. :hitting:

As AC's resident Hot Dog vendor (even if I did retire the cart) I must insist that you please don't degrade the Hot Dog. It's a very tasty meat by-product.

:barf:

First I would like to say - stop bashing the hot dog, ladies! There is nothing as tasty as a good kosher dog! Yum!

Hay, what train are you talking about? and yes it is equally ironic that you are calling out and voting for people that have not posted much - you have not really contributed much substance - pot, meet kettle!

There seems to be a bit of organization with today's voting and I am not sure if this is good or if it concerns me more....something seems off with it. not sure which/who yet. need to get back to work, but I will try to check back this afternoon before I head home, to see if I can locate what it is that's causing this nagging feeling at the base of my brain.....:y220d:

Kosher hot dogs are just as gross as non-kosher ones. Ewwww! :yuck:

Actually Noods, that train comment seemed weird to me as well. I remember you making a similar comment in one of the earliest games I played here when you only had 1 vote on you...and you were evil that game...

I agree there seems to be some sort of organization with the shift of focus from FF/Wiz to now Hay. It doesn't sit well with me, but if there are really only 2 evils then they would both have to be involved in the shift, and hope to carry momentum over so others would follow. I know it's a bit early for one of my awesome theories, but the only reason I can think the scum team would coordinate such a move would be to attempt to pull votes off the murderer. Was FF an easy target, so Wiz tried to take him out for day 1? Rich comes in, makes a post, then a new post with a vote for Hay, then Wiz jumps on board. Something feels off with the whole situation.

 

[Fishfriend1]

Sorry FF this is starting to read wrong to me. For example let's just look at the word digging. A common enough word. Used often by some players, but when did you last use it? In this context; not as in digging your own grave. Generally you look under stones. I've seen you look under stones, pick up stones, turn over stones, and even look into stones but I haven't seen you dig. Unless you were digging up stones. Have you used digging in this context before?

Could be nothing but sometimes it's the little things.

Hmm, i don't think so. Maybe it was the wrong word, maybe not. IDK.

found a minute to grab the quotes between classes.

this is what I was talking about. They both need to come back with the proper timing, or new spark plugs. Cars just don't seem very FF to me.

Well, i really dought you people beleive in coincidence, and neither do i. I probably read Labbys post and then unconshisly remember that part and used it in my own. Thats the best i can do, sorry.

This set off alarms right away when you threw out Rich's name of all people.

FF, you obviously think way differently than I. Asking the question doesn't inherently hurt us but throwing out a laundry list of names followed by WIFOM scenarios only confuses the town and distracts us from anything that has actually been posted and can point to scum.

I guess there isn't much else to say about this.

Hey, it kicked of day 1, i had nothing to go on, and i was trying to brainstorm. Thats what i came up with. I still don't understand how it can hurt the town to hear what others have to say about a game-related topic, but ok.

The word digging is just the wrong word to use in general. Even kicking up stones is the wrong phrase. I didn't see any case building or questioning of specific players. FF attempted to start a discussion at best.

Whether this implies someone else wrote it or not, I can't say for sure. I don't see a seasoned vet using that word incorrectly unless they were really trying to sell the fact that FF just wanted to help the town and hoped no one would take a hard look at the wording.

Ok, so its out of context. Anything else?

I'm having a hard time with that one, FF might have listed all of those names to draw attention away from who he did pick, He doesn't mention Hay in his list so he could be attempting to draw attention away from who he did recruit.

The similar car reference in his post and labs post combined with FFs sudden intelligence peaks my interest. Someone on here mentioned that FF had said he wants to play like Labby ( In class atm, I'll find the post when I'm out ). I can see him being the murderer and recruiting her, and she has helped him with his posts thus the sudden coherence.

Sudden intelligence... this is my first game on the new meds, last game i was modding and on the new meds, this game im playing on the new meds.

Simler car reference... she said it, my mind must've remembered it somewhere and thrown it in my post. My mind is weird, even i don't understand why i do some of the things i do.

Want to play like labby... yes, i would like to be as good at the game as labby. That would probably go as far as turning her, but not as my first choice, my first 4 choices have already been stated.

 

[Fishfriend1]

Hmm, i don't think so. Maybe it was the wrong word, maybe not. IDK.



Well, i really dought you people beleive in coincidence, and neither do i. I probably read Labbys post and then unconshisly remember that part and used it in my own. Thats the best i can do, sorry.



Hey, it kicked of day 1, i had nothing to go on, and i was trying to brainstorm. Thats what i came up with. I still don't understand how it can hurt the town to hear what others have to say about a game-related topic, but ok.



Ok, so its out of context. Anything else?



Sudden intelligence... this is my first game on the new meds, last game i was modding and on the new meds, this game im playing on the new meds.

Simler car reference... she said it, my mind must've remembered it somewhere and thrown it in my post. My mind is weird, even i don't understand why i do some of the things i do.

Want to play like labby... yes, i would like to be as good at the game as labby. That would probably go as far as turning her, but not as my first choice, my first 4 choices have already been stated.

spelling fail... my comps spell-check can't even decipher it... LMAO

 

[Lab_Rat]

spelling fail... my comps spell-check can't even decipher it... LMAO

FF, if that earlier post was truly your own, it proves you can spell. A friendly suggestion that will help you greatly in the future, especially if you plan on attending college: get in the habit of spelling properly. If you let yourself misspell continually you will lose the ability to spell properly. Spelling and grammar are reflections on you; you misspell on your resume or cover letter and you can kiss that job goodbye. Better to change your habits now before they're solidified. Just some friendly, unsolicited advice.

 

[jpappy789]

dought = doubt?

Anyways, I'm done trying to convince you that what you did didn't help the town...my final word: just look at what happened. Most were hesitant to answer and instead questioned your initial posts regarding the subject. Now, if you are innocent, I think you can see why it didn't help.

As for the other post of mine you responded to, FF, what I am trying to say is that you didn't "dig". That's all so I'm not sure what exactly you want me to say...

 

[Fishfriend1]

dought = doubt?

Anyways, I'm done trying to convince you that what you did didn't help the town...my final word: just look at what happened. Most were hesitant to answer and instead questioned your initial posts regarding the subject. Now, if you are innocent, I think you can see why it didn't help.

As for the other post of mine you responded to, FF, what I am trying to say is that you didn't "dig". That's all so I'm not sure what exactly you want me to say...

The digging part. Ok, so i used the wrong word for that then. My bad.

Ok, i can tell my meds are starting to wear off (im getting antsy) so i'll probably start posting a lot soon. Ima distract myself.

 

[Kashta]

Just letting you all know I'm here and should be around for several hours now. I wasn't able to get here sooner... have a lot of packages going out today that needed to be processed.

With that, I'm going back now to where I left off last night. I've started pulling some quotes but I ended up with a LOT of them already that I either want to question or comment about. So I guess I'll be posting a lot as I work my way through the thread.

 

[Kashta]

For you, Lab Rat.

I've been thinking, maybe FF's question isn't so useless. It may not help now, but it may help sort out who is scum later in the game, when more connections can be drawn. Therefore, I have decided to answer it.

If I had been selected as the murderer, I would have picked JB for the simple reason that he has an uncanny ability to pick out when I'm scum.

When exactly do you think it will come in handy, Labby? Let's just say you're the murderer. So, a couple days from now, you're lynched and found out. Are we to assume that you told the truth when you named me? I don't see how it would at any point be helpful. It's something to talk about other than pizza toppings or favorite types of trees, but I still don't see it as helpful.

That being said, I'll play along. I would have picked Pappy. I don't think I've ever been on a team with him, and I think we'd be formidable together and have quite a bit of fun along the way.

I think a few days from now it may lead to connections. Yeah, you can't trust what they put, but the reasoning behind why someone put who they would pick could be helpful. Worst case scenario it doesn't hurt and it is more useful than discussing pizza toppings (and you can keep your nasty pizza meat to yourself, I'll stick with veggies and pineapple, tyvm).

Red stuff -- You posted you think it may be helpful because it may lead us to connections between scum later in the game. Don't you think that's a rather broad statement... or overly vague? JB questioned you about this already and I believe you gave him an overly simplistic reply... basically just repeating yourself without actually saying anything of value.

What I'd like to know is how you really believe this to be a truthful assessment. (This should be fairly straightforward answer for you to give us if this is what you honestly believe.)

Here's what I mean... Would you kindly respond to JB's question by giving us some kind of example or likely scenario that is NOT based on a standard mafia vs. town format (which includes a fully staffed mafia team who are already ALL connected) and which actually takes into account the fact that this is a mafia team building game instead?

By that I mean please answer such things as how this Day 1 discussion about who the murderer might choose 1st would benefit the town in ANY way, considering the murderer could easily pick their first recruit to serve as an intended sacrifice and simply go after their real (preferred) teammate with their 2nd choice that happens to be a 100% guaranteed turn as well..... or how the fact that we have so many turns in this format, the presence of 2 vials, the possibility of "turned" spies in either the scumden and/or the ghost hunter chat boards, and the impending 2 random acts might change the dynamics (and mafia connections) in this specific game..... or how the fact that those who'll later become much more important once they become troubled souls later on would have any bearing today over which target the murderer may or may not have chosen at game start?

I also noted you also used the phrase: possible connections (plural). You did that 2 times (in both posts I quoted above.) That's what really jumped out at me as being vague.

Did you actually mean multiple connections... more than one?... when what we're talking about amounts to a single connection between ONE murderer and ONE turn?

What other connections (plural) might me we draw from this discussion later on that we had the very first day of play?

As for that other part I highlighted in blue. Are you actually saying that is the absolute "worst case scenario" you can imagine happening under this kind of format?

.... That you see no possible detriment whatsoever to the town's ability to identify 2 scum players (so far) as a result of us becoming distracted, diverted, or side-tracked over a potentially worthless or wasteful Day 1 discussion that could actually make it easier for the scum to hide out, blend in, or deliberately mislead us? As it happens exactly that way very often on Day 1 under a standard game format... wouldn't you suppose that sort confusion might be even worse for the town (later in the game) in this format than it would be normally?

I'm a little curious to learn your thoughts about this.

 

[Kashta]

I am yet to see any seriously and evident scummy behaviour besides ffs quick suspicions. but i believe that has kinda been answered. i believe in this format, seeings as there is only two evils at this point, it would be easier for them to lie low than rather get involved in everything. i think we should start widening our thoughts here.

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I saw that you'll be gone now probably until after nightfall occurs. When you get back to the thread (assuming you're still alive), please answer something for me.

You seem to be saying you believe the scum are lying low and remaining quiet. Is that because you feel both scum players are really doing this? What about the possibility that one or the other murderer/troubled soul are players who take a more active and vocal approach to the game? Would they also be lying low or hiding out now? Do you actually mean we should not consider anyone who's actively posting to be suspicious at all?