He was with us in innocent chat. That is when he named all the scum and most of the PRs. Takes a while for this old brain to get going sometimes. I did not really remember it until UN reminded me about the false claim, got me killed.
Mafia 80: Ghost Hunters
- Thread starter Lady G
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He was with us in innocent chat. That is when he named all the scum and most of the PRs. Takes a while for this old brain to get going sometimes. I did not really remember it until UN reminded me about the false claim, got me killed.
It would take more time than I have to pull all their posts to show you everything I have worked out this morning. For now... let me begin by introducing my suspicions and attempt to correct some erroneous conclusions we've reached.
I believe Noodles is the murderer.
From the start, Noods expended more effort notifying us about her continual absences and updating us about her computer issues, her work demands, her bleeding husband, and her dire need to fix dinner or vaccuum the carpeting (of all things)... and other nonsense, posting one excuse after another to inform us why she has so little time to play... than anything else. All this to excuse her lack of participation during the earlier part of the game. Within the first (approx.) 250 posts of the thread, she had made only 5. Heck, even the game mod had already posted more than that.
Yes, I'm sure she's been quite busy.... who isn't? Even so, she was also hiding out and keeping a very low profile so we would overlook her.
I picked up on this at the time but have counted her among too many suspects and other side issues which also drew my attention for me to sit back and examine her contribution (?) individually and follow up with this.
Then, at a crucial moment in the game... I also failed notice it was Noods who got us all to make a huge mistake: our misinterpretation of Day 1 nightfall events.
I did not put this all together until a short while ago.
Keeping the final vote count in sequence here as a reminder, she nicely withheld her vote until the end. And these votes, I'll come back to in a moment.
After FF was dead... innocent townie, we read this:
Yes, that was me injecting Lab Rat with Dose #1. I took this writeup to mean it changed her from one side to another. And the final remark "only time will tell" (which was actually a telling clue from the mod) to mean Lady G wasn't going to tell us Labby's role. In fact, what it actually meant was I've got a slow-acting serum.
Lab Rat was not the murderer's first choice as partner from game start as we've thought all this time. (I'll tell you who I believe this is as well... keep reading.)
When nightfall began, Lab Rat was innocent -- right up until the moment I injected her. I was the one who turned Lab Rat evil; not the murderer. (Looking back, she was also probably one of our ghost hunters at this time. The hunch I acted upon to dose her....... more a PR vibe about Lab Rat than her being scum.)
Next came the evil hit. And guess what? The evils (2 of them) also targeted the same person I had just stabbed in the neck --> Lab Rat.
This was evil recruit #2, which according to the rules is a guarantee. 100% result.... claiming the victim to the evil team. This "turn" was not the 50-50 chance later targets would be.
No wonder Lady G had some quick details to work out in a hurry... Lab Rat was both my target (to turn her) and Noodles' newest teammate -- both at the same time.
Here is Nood's initial response after "game on."
Here, Lab Rat died from her injection and her (new) role was revealed.... several minutes after nightfall was over and Day 2 began.
Noodles went on to incriminate Wizard (innocent) for leading the votes against FF (innocent/dead). She nicely included JB (also innocent) in this, which only suggested we suspect him as well.... feeding our concern about the interaction we'd seen between JB and Wizard.... just before she tried to disappear again (back to her scumden).
Before leaving... a quick reaction to Labby's death.
The mod came on to answer our questions about a turn getting killed from an event that can only turn her.
The murderer shows she has heart with a nice comment to consider poor Labby's feelings. But also note what else she managed to work in with this post. She added her "spin" on the events to confuse us into thinking Lab Rat was her 1st turn instead of their 2nd turn.
Asking this question the game mod wasn't going to answer... she lead us to believe Lab was the other turn.
I vote to take the soul of Noodles. She is the murderer.
More to follow about the real Turn #1.
I believe Noodles is the murderer.
From the start, Noods expended more effort notifying us about her continual absences and updating us about her computer issues, her work demands, her bleeding husband, and her dire need to fix dinner or vaccuum the carpeting (of all things)... and other nonsense, posting one excuse after another to inform us why she has so little time to play... than anything else. All this to excuse her lack of participation during the earlier part of the game. Within the first (approx.) 250 posts of the thread, she had made only 5. Heck, even the game mod had already posted more than that.
Yes, I'm sure she's been quite busy.... who isn't? Even so, she was also hiding out and keeping a very low profile so we would overlook her.
I picked up on this at the time but have counted her among too many suspects and other side issues which also drew my attention for me to sit back and examine her contribution (?) individually and follow up with this.
Then, at a crucial moment in the game... I also failed notice it was Noods who got us all to make a huge mistake: our misinterpretation of Day 1 nightfall events.
I did not put this all together until a short while ago.
Keeping the final vote count in sequence here as a reminder, she nicely withheld her vote until the end. And these votes, I'll come back to in a moment.
After FF was dead... innocent townie, we read this:
Yes, that was me injecting Lab Rat with Dose #1. I took this writeup to mean it changed her from one side to another. And the final remark "only time will tell" (which was actually a telling clue from the mod) to mean Lady G wasn't going to tell us Labby's role. In fact, what it actually meant was I've got a slow-acting serum.
Lab Rat was not the murderer's first choice as partner from game start as we've thought all this time. (I'll tell you who I believe this is as well... keep reading.)
When nightfall began, Lab Rat was innocent -- right up until the moment I injected her. I was the one who turned Lab Rat evil; not the murderer. (Looking back, she was also probably one of our ghost hunters at this time. The hunch I acted upon to dose her....... more a PR vibe about Lab Rat than her being scum.)
Next came the evil hit. And guess what? The evils (2 of them) also targeted the same person I had just stabbed in the neck --> Lab Rat.
This was evil recruit #2, which according to the rules is a guarantee. 100% result.... claiming the victim to the evil team. This "turn" was not the 50-50 chance later targets would be.
No wonder Lady G had some quick details to work out in a hurry... Lab Rat was both my target (to turn her) and Noodles' newest teammate -- both at the same time.
Here is Nood's initial response after "game on."
Here, Lab Rat died from her injection and her (new) role was revealed.... several minutes after nightfall was over and Day 2 began.
Noodles went on to incriminate Wizard (innocent) for leading the votes against FF (innocent/dead). She nicely included JB (also innocent) in this, which only suggested we suspect him as well.... feeding our concern about the interaction we'd seen between JB and Wizard.... just before she tried to disappear again (back to her scumden).
Before leaving... a quick reaction to Labby's death.
The mod came on to answer our questions about a turn getting killed from an event that can only turn her.
The murderer shows she has heart with a nice comment to consider poor Labby's feelings. But also note what else she managed to work in with this post. She added her "spin" on the events to confuse us into thinking Lab Rat was her 1st turn instead of their 2nd turn.
Asking this question the game mod wasn't going to answer... she lead us to believe Lab was the other turn.
I vote to take the soul of Noodles. She is the murderer.
More to follow about the real Turn #1.
Razz- Have not heard much from him at all today. Still no clue what he meant when he voted for me.
Chill- Leaning innocent right now. He seems to be hard at work kicking bushes.
Rich- I have no trouble getting a read on him at all. Hell of a photographer too.
Bally- I can see some sincerity in her posts at the moment. She could be pulling the wool over my eyes. She would not be the first to pull that kind of defense. She is my second choice for scum right now.
UN- going to believe him for the moment.
Wizard- I have no choice but to think he is a townie. Has been hard at work picking out scum.
Kash- I see no reason not to believe her.
Hay- Still on the fence about him. The time zone change makes it hard to interact with him.
Noods- She has been very quiet but I see nothing disturbing in her posts.
Jpap - you guys say you cant read me, he is like a blank slate to me. Not sure what to think.
Piggy - I have as innocent. He is trying just needs to do some learning. We all started somewhere.
Chill- Leaning innocent right now. He seems to be hard at work kicking bushes.
Rich- I have no trouble getting a read on him at all. Hell of a photographer too.
Bally- I can see some sincerity in her posts at the moment. She could be pulling the wool over my eyes. She would not be the first to pull that kind of defense. She is my second choice for scum right now.
UN- going to believe him for the moment.
Wizard- I have no choice but to think he is a townie. Has been hard at work picking out scum.
Kash- I see no reason not to believe her.
Hay- Still on the fence about him. The time zone change makes it hard to interact with him.
Noods- She has been very quiet but I see nothing disturbing in her posts.
Jpap - you guys say you cant read me, he is like a blank slate to me. Not sure what to think.
Piggy - I have as innocent. He is trying just needs to do some learning. We all started somewhere.
I hate to throw out WIFOM crap but I don't see what Kash gains from claiming to be doc now and possible mafia later. All it does is buy the scum another day or two, which could certainly help, but there really are no other holes in her story. It's not like she was a for sure lynch candidate today.
Kash, that's a lot to digest...I'm gunna wait until you post all your thoughts before trying to get what you are saying.
Ninja, please wait if you have time. Don't just follow someone because you believe you can trust them.
There is a lot more for me to say that isn't even written out yet and a lot for everyone to consider before making a decision.
i really trust no one in this game but u made some valid points and as the doc u have yet to be wrong
Not actually true, but thank you. Just please reserve judgement for now.
