Mafia 86: The Wolfman Game Thread

[Piranha86]

And the piggybacking begins...

So, how exactly is voting someone b/c they UDed last game and most likely isn't WW NOT a crap shoot?

I would rather vote out a for-all-intensive-purposes useless innocent as opposed to an important innocent.

Piranha seems to be helping the town

Thanks, but don't snuggle up way too much.

Pir, attempting to draw attention to what UN said after Pap claimed "innocent"-He say's it was just a silly post and meant nothing, but the fact he put it out there doesn't sit well with me

Not sitting well isn't exactly the 'complex cases' everyone was looking for IMO.

So for no other reason than Ninja already has a vote.

I VOTE TO LYNCH FF

Well... that makes sense...?

I will likely be absent most of today and tonight...Pir has caught my attention the most so far.

I vote to lynch Pir

Hmm, piggybacking and OMGUS? Nice move.

I actually really don't like Haydn snuggling up to me... doesn't really matter for my vote anyway, so I vote to lynch Haydn.

 

[Piranha86]

These are the only things that remotely "stand out" to me at this point and none of them are much of anything, but on day one we never have much to go on. The big difference in this game though from other day ones, we really can't afford for mistakes..... I HATE THIS!!!

Then don't vote me out... I really don't think speculating on who scum could be on day 1 is really such a bad thing... JPap reacted pretty furiously to it as well...

Well, looks like I'm SOL, I'm telling you, I'm not scum.

 

[jpappy789]

How is it piggybacking when I questioned you first? Just because LG voted before me doesn't mean I am following. All that points too is that she got online before I did...

Voting for a UD is a cop out. Always has been and always will be in my mind. What can we possibly learn from that? D2 becomes D1 all over again.

 

[jpappy789]

Then don't vote me out... I really don't think speculating on who scum could be on day 1 is really such a bad thing... JPap reacted pretty furiously to it as well...

Well, looks like I'm SOL, I'm telling you, I'm not scum.

Your speculation was based on what the MOD said. Shouldn't have even been taken into account.

 

[Lady G]

Not sitting well isn't exactly the 'complex cases' everyone was looking for IMO.

Do you see any "complex cases"? It's day one, can't really get to "complex".

How is it piggybacking when I questioned you first? Just because LG voted before me doesn't mean I am following. All that points too is that she got online before I did...

Voting for a UD is a cop out. Always has been and always will be in my mind. What can we possibly learn from that? D2 becomes D1 all over again.

Yes, I know and that is true (D2 becomes D1 all over again). It was a thought I had for a moment, and thought I'd throw it out there.

 

[Fishfriend1]

Forgot that nighttime was moved back so at least I can post a bit before I'm out the door again...

Mafia will try to appear helpful. That is how they win the game...so it's hard for me to look at someone as leaning innocent just because of that fact. Anyone can put in the effort. So it threw me off when Hay mentioned Pir as being helpful. I certainly don't see it as such.

I don't like FF making excuses for NPR. Maybe it's just FF being FF but normally they are at each others throats, even if the conversation is tongue and cheek. It doesn't seem normal for him to cover for NPR in any way.

And yes, I understood what 2H meant and it seems like others are still hung up on the wording of it. I'm taking it as something that is not vote worthy at the moment particularly because true slips like that are rare.

I don't really have any other thoughts at the moment. Most others have been too quiet for me to get any sort of reading on.

Hey, just cause I don't think he's evil doesn't mean I'm out to protect him. You see, if I was evil I would side with him, then hit him, make me look nice and golden that would. But now I've said it out loud, the evils can't do that, it would be kinda obvious.

We have about a half hour left I believe.

I can't believe I am about to say this, as it is something I am pretty much always against..but looking at numbers and how quick the WW can take over, would it be better to vote a UD this round, at best we get a WW, at worst a innocent but not 2. If the WW get their bite tonight, Adam UD's (and is innocent) the lynch goes on a innocent we loose THREE innocents?

Yea, I think I se Pirs argument now. Instead of losing 3 innocents, we only have to lose 2. If AA's gonna UD anyway, why not vote him. ANyone who refuses would be seen as evil and then voted off, so not even the WWs would have voted elsewhere. The risk for that is if they suddenly vote-jump at the last minute, Then we lose 3 again, and they control who gets killed.

Then don't vote me out... I really don't think speculating on who scum could be on day 1 is really such a bad thing... JPap reacted pretty furiously to it as well...

Well, looks like I'm SOL, I'm telling you, I'm not scum.

I believe you, Pir. Now watch you turn evil... but I still believe you right now. Why is it that we're still voting off the guys who actually try to play? All these piggy-backers and we're voting the guy who doesn't piggy back. We're complete hypocrites!

 

[jpappy789]

yes, everyone vote for AA...then what tomorrow?

 

[Fishfriend1]

How is it piggybacking when I questioned you first? Just because LG voted before me doesn't mean I am following. All that points too is that she got online before I did...

Voting for a UD is a cop out. Always has been and always will be in my mind. What can we possibly learn from that? D2 becomes D1 all over again.

Ah, i never though if that. And i bet Pir didn't either.

Your speculation was based on what the MOD said. Shouldn't have even been taken into account.

Doesn't make him evil, just gives you a convenient excuse to vote him... hmm...

The case against pir seems to be getting weaker and weaker, in my mind. I will not be voting him, thats for sure.

 

[Piranha86]

Voting for a UD is a cop out. Always has been and always will be in my mind. What can we possibly learn from that? D2 becomes D1 all over again.

But if it gets us through to D2 only losing 2 innocents as opposed to 3, seems like an OK cop out to me. I think I recall you turning something into nothing in a situation pretty similar to this one in the CIA/FBI game. And gee whiz, you were scum in that game.

Your speculation was based on what the MOD said. Shouldn't have even been taken into account.

Ok, this has been clearly established, if you'd like to ride my ...back... about it anymore, feel free to PM me.

Do you see any "complex cases"? It's day one, can't really get to "complex".

Sorry, I'm just a tad bitter. I realize that, but attention catching shouldn't be considered a scum tell IMO.

Yea, I think I se Pirs argument now. Instead of losing 3 innocents, we only have to lose 2. If AA's gonna UD anyway, why not vote him. ANyone who refuses would be seen as evil and then voted off, so not even the WWs would have voted elsewhere. The risk for that is if they suddenly vote-jump at the last minute, Then we lose 3 again, and they control who gets killed.

:idea:There we go...

I believe you, Pir. Now watch you turn evil... but I still believe you right now. Why is it that we're still voting off the guys who actually try to play? All these piggy-backers and we're voting the guy who doesn't piggy back. We're complete hypocrites!

Piggybacking isn't necessarily a scummy thing, just kind of unfair.

 

[Lady G]

Hey, just cause I don't think he's evil doesn't mean I'm out to protect him. You see, if I was evil I would side with him, then hit him, make me look nice and golden that would. But now I've said it out loud, the evils can't do that, it would be kinda obvious.



Yea, I think I se Pirs argument now. Instead of losing 3 innocents, we only have to lose 2. If AA's gonna UD anyway, why not vote him. ANyone who refuses would be seen as evil and then voted off, so not even the WWs would have voted elsewhere. The risk for that is if they suddenly vote-jump at the last minute, Then we lose 3 again, and they control who gets killed.



I believe you, Pir. Now watch you turn evil... but I still believe you right now. Why is it that we're still voting off the guys who actually try to play? All these piggy-backers and we're voting the guy who doesn't piggy back. We're complete hypocrites!

There is a difference here FF, when Pir suggested it..his reason was because he UD LAST game, nothing to do with this game and it was still rather early...he DIDN'T say it was to try and only loose 2 instead of 3..his ONLY reason was because he UDed last game, adding to it he didn't think UN would let Adam be WW