Mafia 88: Insane Asylum (Game Thread)

After tonight's events I think I need to go back to day 1 and reread everything. There has to be a clue somewhere.
 
wanted to bring both days final tallys for easier comparison

keep in mind

HH scum

star iq doom cnote all innocent I am going to bold innocent votes and italicize and make purple the 1 scum we know vote


Vote Count (thru post 391) - red indicates that vote has been retracted

HH (8) - chup 277, wing 310, Tib 320, Nar 323, gold 363, Nem 368, Tree 383, mael 385
Nem (5) - Driver 261, HH 269, Gun 278, BH 292, HI IQ 361
Scoop (2) - wing 168, Doom 196, Star 274
C-note (1) - O3T 192
UhOh (1) - RICK 237
Doom (1) - UhOh 271
Tib (1) - C-note 272
Star (1) - scoop 297
O3T (0) - RICK 186
Gun (0) - BH 275
Chup (0) - HI IQ 295
Mael (0) - Nem 236
RICK (0) - HI IQ 322
Nar (0) - mael 240, gold 268

All have voted

Reminder: No lynch if vote is tied at nightfall

Nightfall in 13 minutes

Vote Count (thru post 726) - red indicates retracted vote

HI IQ (5) - Nar 434, O3T 458, Nem 510, Tree 525, RICK 535, chup 663
Doom (4) - wing 482, Gun 542, C-note 550, UhOh 645, Tib 722
Nem (2) - HI IQ 537, Driver 621
Tib (2) - scoop 658, BH 667
C-note (1) - Doom 460
O3T (1) - Gun 578
Driver (1) - O3T 635
Scoop (0) - Tib 558
No Lynch (2) - gold 618, mael 657

All have voted.

Nightfall in 35 minutes (8 pm CST). PMs as required, please.

Doom and star both voted scoop night 1. Doom was taken out by the vig so no help there. Scoops over reaction to his vote on Star and them being hit day 1 is something that would bear watching but i looked and see star was on scoop. could be something bigger to look out why he reacted that way

[AC] scoop411;2590087 said:
anyways C-Note, I want to get a vote out there and he is the only one I see as being evil. As for the leaders for the lynch I need to think some more before I put a vote on either of them. I want to be sure that I get the right guy, and don't rush into a stupid vote. It would suck to get the wrong guy tonight, especially after we had a good nightfall last night.

here we have scoop not wanting to commit to either for a vote on day 2. his vote was put on tib at a time the tally was 4-3 IQ.
what becomes more interesting on day 2 is that 3 toes moved off IQ to driver after IQ got a fifth vote and Gun moved off Doom when doom got the third vote
BH also followed scoop to Tib
none of them wanted to be associated with an innocents death, sure gun didn't know the vig was going to hit doom but they also made sure if there was a run on doom they were going to get caught up in it.

my main focus will be
scoop
bh
3toes
gun

but it will have to wait till tomorrow
 
sure gun didn't know the vig was going to hit doom but they also made sure if there was a run on doom they were going to get caught up in it.



should be they weren't going
 
Wow that was bad. Sorry I wasn't more posty before nightfall, I was on the road in a no-mans-land for internets.
 
[AC] scoop411;2590130 said:
I g2g eat dinner, but as of right now I'm leaning Hi-IQ innocent based off of what I've read so far. I do have something written down in myn notes that had me leaning him evil, I'll figure out why when I get back. I still have to start looking into everyone else....


as of right now I'm fine with my vote.
Oh all the banter today, this post sticks out the most to me. Scoop had been promising to read for quite a while and then this is the result? Leaning the lead vote getter innocent, but they have notes that made them think they were evil? Does not compute. This is a very early, frustration born vote, but for now

I vote to lynch Scoop.
 
2 people stand out to me now after looking at the voting. They both failed to vote for HH (known scum) on D1 and voted for an innocent D2. Rickets placed a singleton vote on UHOH D1 and voted to lynch HI IQ (known innocent) D2. UHOH placed a singleton vote on Doom (known innocent) D1 and a vote on Doom (known innocent) D2. The other 2 that fall under that category are Doom and CNote but they were going after each other D2 and are known innocents. For a start I plan to look into these 2 (Rickets and UHOH) along with the 2 no votes. Granted Mael and Gold both voted for HH night 1 (which drops them down a bit on my list) but it still doesn't sit well with me and I want to see what thoughts they both put out there yesterday if any.
 
So I took the easy 2 first. Here's all the posts from Mael and Gold D2.

[AC] maelstrom;2589061 said:
We would have to make sure that shortened list included the bad guys. It would not help the town at all to give anyone a pass. That would only help the mafia

[AC] maelstrom;2589067 said:
Sorry misread this, thought you said a short list for eveyone not from everyone. I thought you were trying to give some people a free pass by making a list.

[AC] maelstrom;2589093 said:
On the original post I made trying to vote would have put HH ahead by 2 votes. I think this was an important vote with the tie rule in this game. I know this was not the vote that counted but I still tryed. I dont know how I was jumping on a bandwagon and then you bring it up again 2 post later. I am wondering your thinking behind your theory?

[AC] maelstrom;2589096 said:
that first quote was a mistake.

[AC] maelstrom;2589218 said:
I posted where I originally tried to vote for HH, but I did not know how to bold from my phone. I gave my reasoning there, did I not? Yes the vote that was counted did not come until a few post down and after someone else already voted for him, but I had been trying to figure out how to bold.

Idk at first I thought you were trying to portecte one of your own but thinking about it a little I am not sure. It does not seem to be a good movie at that point when it looked like he had no chance of not being lynched.

[AC] gold leader;2589231 said:
Now that HH has proven to be mafia, what do you think of your prior reasoning that HH was just impulsive and, I'm assuming since you choose to look elsewhere, innocent?

Funny how your "coin" kept you off a mafia member. Good place/reason to hide IMO. Don't want to vote a team member who is up for the lynch so you play the "I can't decide and flipped a coin" and it conviently doesn't land on your teammate.
coin.jpg



Well Nem, what do you think now?

I find the wording "if innocent" interesting, wouldn't it make more sense to say "if scum" on the grounds that is what the town is searching for? But you choose to say if he turns up innocent, I can't seem to find the words to exactly articulate why this is noteworthy, but that just doesn't sit right with me

[AC] gold leader;2589237 said:
Rickets, I pulled this from where you answered C-notes questions in the quote itself. Interestingly enough I had to copy and paste because simply quoting the post wouldn't allow me to quote the part you answered in what you quoted from C-note. Why were you worried about O3T at that point, they were not the only low posting player. Tree_hugger was also very nonexistant at that point, why did you not vote for them to get them to post more? I guess I'm just curious of 2 things in this quote...
1. Why did you answer part of C-notes questions in the quote?
2. Why did you feel the need to spur O3T into posting more when there were many other nonexisting players?

[AC] gold leader;2589240 said:
since clicking the little arrow thing will take you to C-notes post in which he posed the questions to Ricket, the post I am referring to, by Rickets, is #490

[AC] gold leader;2589540 said:
I don't know if I"m really seeing the case on Hi-IQ, if they are innocent it would be very easy for the scum to find the one person who agreed, or seemed to agree enough to make a case on, and get the town running towards the next lynch, especially after the confidence boost of getting a scum last night.

I'm going to go back through and read since nightfall and see the order of events leading up to this train on HI-IQ.

To make things clear, I'm not in any way defending Hi-IQ I'm just stating that I want to review this more for myself than just jump on the band wagon

[AC] maelstrom;2589556 said:
I don't get this, you say u don't see the case being built agent HI IQ but then u say you are not defending him. What are you doing then?

[AC] maelstrom;2589793 said:
I wanted to look at this again. Like I said this sits a little odd to me. I have no problem with someone defending some if they think that the case is weak, but then at the end saying you were not defending them makes it seem like they are covering for themselvs. The case aginst HI IQ seems to be getting strong at this point and a few people behind it. Gold leader also says they were going to go back over all the post then say what he thinks, but this was the last post from him. Not using post count as a fight because I just see post count as an easy way for the bad guys to draw intrest onto a good guy. What I am saying is the post seems kind of like gold leader is saying I am here and posted then disappears.

[AC] gold leader;2589883 said:
Had a family melt down last night, and today is a travel day for me so I might not make it back on. And honestly,I didnt read the thread last night and havent today. After today I'll be back on but I need to vote to not UD.
I vote to lynch no one [\B] because I have no idea what has transpired. Sorry all :(


[AC] gold leader;2589885 said:
I vote to lynch no one
fixed...

[AC] maelstrom;2589984 said:
It is getting some momentum. I am not saying you are scum, I still want to go back and take a look at the argument.

[AC] maelstrom;2590052 said:
I haven't had the time to read everything like I would like. Been tied up with work for a good part of the day. I don't like that doom keeps disappearing like he is doing and would consider voting for him. But I need to take my daughter out and will not have time to come back tonight. I do not want to tie the vote nor do I want to ud so...

I vote to lynch nobody [b/]

Sorry town.


[AC] maelstrom;2590058 said:
I am trying to find the post I was taught how to do it :-/

[AC] maelstrom;2590062 said:
I vote to lynch nobody
Of the 2 I can see where Gold was not around most of the day and may have had some family issues and couldn't vote. Mael however was around reading and posting most of the day. They even looked to be leaning toward voting Doom or HI IQ but never ended up placing the vote. Their excuse was they didn't want to tie the vote. There was still plenty of time till night at that point I do believe. Of the 2 I would definitely lean Mael more to the scum side than Gold but I'm hoping they will both contribute this time around. I'll be on later to check out the other 2 I mentioned. Gotta go for now.
 
Before I went I wanted to check the timeline of Mael's last few posts. The post about not wanting to tie the vote came at 5:28pm EST. 3.5hrs till nightfall. Plenty of time for the Town to react to a tie. A tie close to night is one thing but causing a tie and leaving time for people to react is another. Then Mael proceeded to take another 15min to bold their no vote. That 15min should have been spent deciding who to place a real vote on...not trying to bold a no vote IMO.
 
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