Mafia 88: Insane Asylum (Game Thread)

[[AC] UhOhChongo]

This is taking much longer than I anticipated. I am reading each post so as not to form opinions on something taken out of contex.

I stopped at nightfall for day 1 because I was having trouble remembering what I pulled and my thoughts on it.

nobody spells "would" wrong twice in a row...

Scoop, we were in the middle of day 1 bs banter when you posted this. Your post stuck out like a sore thumb due to the fact that it was in the middle of sillines.

no need to judge the guy, deep down inside we all love wood

You then tried to joke about it.

so your defending him/her? Look at the post, I doubt that anyone here is stupid enough to spell it wrong twice. IMO it look deliberate

But, when questioned about pointing it out, you immediately get serious and accusatory over it.

Does anyone else see the big bala shark lurking in the corner....

Then back to silly posting.

I've been trying to figure out how to word this to get my point across best...

Yes, you did originally just point out that it was misspelled twice in the same post. But when I just suggested that some people, historically, are not great spellers you immediately questioned if I was defending wing nut. I never said it wasn't interesting, or that you shouldn't have mentioned anything. All I did was offer what I think was a reasonable explanation...not all people are good at spelling, or care about spelling in this type of environment.

I just don't understand why you jumped to the conclusion that there was some ulterior motive behind the misspellings. Whether you're just jumpy in general or were looking for something to make out of nothing, I don't know at this point.

Star then questions you some more about it. (Let's not forget that star was the scums first hit.)

your welcome

if you want me to go more in depth, IMO it seemed deliberate the way it was spelled. Then again, I could be playing with someone new, who I haven't had the pleasure of playing with yet.

Still trying to figure how this answered the question.

it gives a tell as to how people are playing, when someone is deliberately trying to appear less intelligent (no offense, thats just what is implied by bad spelling) it could be a play to appear as less of a threat. It always could be legit, and even if it's not I would hope that someone wouldn't get voted for trying to post differently then their normal style, especially considering the fact that we have no idea who each other is

This just sounds(reads as a poor cover up answer IMO)

like?



you must be rebel scum then, if you don't know the name of our Empire's mighty ships....

Then back to joking? BTW the empire were the bad guys. The rebels were the good guys.

At this point star-crossed is standing out the most to me, I don't see any kind of argument against me by him, and would love to see any form of a valid reason for voting me. IMO it looks like he just jumped on the train.



So your voting me off gut instinct? Can I see a better reason for this please?



He brought up a valid point, and I'm glad that he did. A tie at nightfall will be interesting, and I think the town can get something good out of it if used the right way. The only problem with the tie is that we don't gain very much from nightfall, and will get back to voting the same people next nightfall. It will also give the scum a "free night" where they can gain an advantage by acting while we aren't.

I vote to lynch Star-Crossed

Your vote as far as I can see was OMGUS. The main thing with this post is you refer to the votes on you as a train.

FYI when the voting is staying fairly close between two it is not a train. The day 1 train was when HH stirred the pot and it backfired.

So why did you call it a train on you?

Were you hoping that we wouldn't check and that it was a scum ploy to get you lynched?

I have a lot more reading to do.

 

[[AC] UhOhChongo]

Tib, you keep bringing up the fact that used this tactic before, and it doesn't stick right with me. You keep bringing this up, even though it's not really relevant to my gameplay. Sure I could be trying something similar, but there isn't a need to keep repeating that fact over and over again. IMO it looks like I made a good post responding to your question, and couldn't find anything wrong with it, so you went back to talking about how YOU used a hit to your advantage as scum. Not about my gameplay, just about the hit. (Yes, you did mention me being up for the lynch early, but I've already said my thoughts about that)

So, you make a case against me and then place an early vote on me. IMO it looks like you were determined to use that hit to your advantage, and try and lynch me off of it, even though I already said "I can feel a set-up coming" taking away your chance to frame me. Despite that, you still tried to get a vote on me for the lynch.

Now you can see that nobody has followed Tib onto me, and he quickly cut his losses and moved on. There weren't any "Wheres scoop?" or "Scoops been quiet" posts, even though I'm sure my post count is low. Then he posts this:



Now that you haven't got any else to vote me, you decide to cut your losses and jump into getting another vote out there. If you really thought I was scum, then you would've kept up your argument, not moved on to a train on doom.

Then you conviently join in with the excuses for not being at nightfall. IMO it looks like "monkey see, monkey do", as you post this excuse to leave after severeal others do. It looks to me like your trying to sneak away from having to deal with posts at nightfall, and blend in to the background.

I vote to lynch tib

I fail to see how it has nothing to do with your game play since you yourself, in the same post, stated you could be using a similar tactic.

I sort of see where you're coming from here, scoop; but what good does throwing a singleton vote out there do for the town? Do you really not have any thoughts on Doom or HIIQ?

Here is where C-note begins questioning Scoop.

I'm getting mad at the new site, I keep losing my posts from clicking the +reply to thread button....

anyways C-Note, I want to get a vote out there and he is the only one I see as being evil. As for the leaders for the lynch I need to think some more before I put a vote on either of them. I want to be sure that I get the right guy, and don't rush into a stupid vote. It would suck to get the wrong guy tonight, especially after we had a good nightfall last night.

I get wanting to be careful, but this seems like a rash of BS to me.


That's correct except for the votes that came in after it.

C responds to your answer.

I had a rash of BS once....

Your response.

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• [AC] scoop411*
• melissadotson

so.... where is everyone?

And this? Maybe the viewers were rereading the thread as you were constantly claiming to need to do.

why wait until after I vote him first to vote him? It seemed like there was plenty of reason to vote him based off the interactions of you two regarding his posts about me.

Grilling BH for placing the same vote you did.

you still could've thrown a vote on him before, I'm curious as to why now? It is 7 PM in the easter time zone, so you should'ver had plenty of time to be out of school and post before hand.

That's your whole answer? Still no real input on HIIQ or Doom? What's wrong, don't want to take a stand that could come back to bite you on your rash?

Wow... you're gonna grill a guy about his schedule while dodging your own questions. Interesting.

no, I've already told you my stance on them. As of right now I don't know. I have some rereading to do....

You've said that at least 3 times now this game. Any chance you'll actually do it?

C-note you seem flustered. Are you ok?

give me a few minutes, and stop asking me questions. I know that if I ignore the newest posts you'll accuse me of hiding from them. Now please stop spamming the thread with stupid little questions like that, it takes away from the actual post I made and makes rereading a pain.

interaction with C

It just seemed odd because you did it pretty soon after I voted. Not going to lynch you over it, but it was still interesting timing.

OK, now I'm rereading. Don't expect answers to your questions for a bit.

Then back to BH

Wow and I seem flustered. lol

I'm not accusing you of anything. Just trying to figure out where you stand. But apparently you have some more reading to do. Sorry... I'll let you to it.

C continues to needle you

I g2g eat dinner, but as of right now I'm leaning Hi-IQ innocent based off of what I've read so far. I do have something written down in myn notes that had me leaning him evil, I'll figure out why when I get back. I still have to start looking into everyone else....


as of right now I'm fine with my vote.

This appears to me as you have done more thinking about the vote leaders yet you never answered C's question as to your thoughts on them.

So I guess all that reading will have to wait. And here I've been biting my nails in anticipation.

lol I hate to dissappoint....



really doomsday? Are you just going to jump onto Tib now? I'm sorry, but thats scummy and it doesn't sit right with me. Do you have any other thoughts on him, or is that really it?

Well, doomsday is looking scummy to me now, I'm not liking his new posts....


+1

Then you jump DDay for voting the same way you did. What was bothering you at this point?

Were you upset that you no longer had a singleton vote?

You voted Tib then grilled everyone else that did.

how can you have finals, it's only march.....



The excuses? I said I had to go for dinner real quick, and then was trying to reread and answer c-notes questions at the same time. Feel free to question any of the other excuses posted already, especially the ones that have dissappeared for nightfall.

doomsday any other thoughts besides irrelevant day 1 banter?

well, I've got to go soon, but I'll be back before nightfall, and should be back around 9:30 EST.

This is important.

REALLY UN? Can you please TRY to play this game right? I'm getting sick of him, especially after last game.

Your first post after saying you would be back before night fall came this afternoon.

Scoops over reaction to his vote on Star and them being hit day 1 is something that would bear watching but i looked and see star was on scoop.


here we have scoop not wanting to commit to either for a vote on day 2.

BH also followed scoop to Tib

I'm glad that I didn't commit to either, as my gut feeling was right for HI IQ (I do have him marked as possible evil, no idea why)

See my thoughts above, and the ones I made right after it happened.



I wouldn't consider me and C-Note arguing, as I wouldn't have put a vote on him and I doubt he would've put one on me. I could definitely see scum wanting to hit them if they were grilled as I was, but it could easily turn around and bite them in the rump afterwards. TBH I think that they just went after the person who was asking the most questions.



Isn't it contradictory that we both made the same vote and only I got grilled for it? You couldn't decide between the two leaders, so you went with someone that you thought was scum and could make a case against. I did the same.

It wasn't really an OMGUS (although both my votes could be considered that), but I saw FLAWS in your argument against me, and it doesn't sit right with me the way you kept comparing a move that you supposedly used in a previous game, to my comment on the hit on star-crossed. I wanted to make sure I put a vote in someone I thought was evil, and not worry about jumping on an innocent based off of a "gut feeling".

I don't see how BH protected me, IMO it looked like he saw a decent argument and decided to jump on. It would look nice for him to hide his vote on you, as he probobly figured it would look better than a singleton vote or a kill vote on an innocent. In his defense, I think that he called you out first on your comemnts on the whole set-up thing, but the timing of his vote doesn't sit right with me.[/QUOTE]

Now, I do agree, you weren't arguing with C-note. It cannot be considered an argument when you are dodging the questions.

It seems to me that you should have a pretty good grasp of everything with all that rereading you had to do. Why have we not seen your conclusions in your posts?

I am sorry but, I don't think you have done much to make yourself look good.

 

[[AC] UhOhChongo]

I am not swaying that it went down this way but I could see C-note being hit for the way he was needling Scoop. I would be less inclined to think this way if Scoop had spent more time in trying to answer questions put to him a little more thoroughly and satisfactorily.

 

[[AC] BadHaggis]

BH was a bit easier since there aren't many posts

here he thinks nem and scoop are both evil

Day 2

after night fall for some undetermined reason BH is now protecting scoop? what changed your mind?

here scoop jumps on BH for following him onto Tib

ultimately i have no solid decision about BH, i would lean him scum for the quick turn around on scoop but not enough evidence to let me vote him. maybe after more posts and explanations i will have a better read.

Actually, I'm not 100% sure that Scoop isn't evil, I voted with him because he was on Tib, and I felt that Tib was evil. Just because I vote with someone doesn't mean I think their not evil, just that I think the one I'm voting IS evil.

 

[[AC] UhOhChongo]

It does seem like a strange coincidence that the two hits by the scum were players that got into it with scoop.

The results of nightfall make it easy to see why there wasn't a lot of switching around close to night fall.

Time to look at those on HI IQ.

Narwhal, Nem, Tree, Rick and Chup.

I won't waste time pulling Rick's posts as I have already done that and haven't seen anything from them to change my mind.

I would repeat the question as to what other's think of Rick since out of 18 player's I got 2 responses. One of which stated they had Rick as suspect and is now gone due to day 2's hit.

 

[[AC] UhOhChongo]

Dang, I almost forgot. One question Rick, I don't believe you ever answered this.

On day 1 you placed your vote on O3T. Then had a gibberish post when he showed up. You then retracted your vote stating it served it's purpose that you were trying to get some posting or something from him.

As was asked of you WHY did you feel compelled to single him out for low posting when there were so many low posters at the time?

A straight answer would be appreciated.

 

[[AC] UhOhChongo]

I haven't seen inception yet, but it seems like the end is already ruined now.

Talking about Shutter Island here...you like skim milk by chance?

Are they not the same movie?

Playing the confused card early day 1?

I don't see how someones spelling is a scum-tell or not. I'm sure my spelling is atrocious and you are all embarrassed to be on the same message board with me due to it.

The fact remains that this seems to have exactly nothing to do with anything.

I feel the same way about the Spanish. I would add that as this game progresses I feel that Spanish language posts should from here out be eliminated.

The only thing so far that really stands out to me is xx_nemesis_xx and his/her/its request that we stop posting. Who would gain from silence? Surely not the town. Her/His/Its recent posts appear to be genuine. Perhaps It/He/She just had a headache from the medications?

This little subtlty is what started people looking at Nem if I read everything correctly.

I classify them as "we" because I was one of them. The words I posted have been lost in this game of telephone.

Response to the use of "we" when questioned who Nem told to stop posting.

Nem told Nar and Doom to "knock it off" not to stop posting as Narwhal tried to make us believe. This happened in the midst of a lot of gibberish posting.

There is no PM quote. The quote within a quote is from the opening post of the game, by Madcrawdad.

How does that post make you think Chupa is scum?

Specifically it was directed to everyone who thinks that Chupas post, #177, makes her/him/it look scummy.

I'm still trying to catch up with the thread, perhaps I jumped in too early, but I'm trying to get clear who thinks that quoting the OP is scummy, or if it's just a big misunderstanding, or if it's big misunderstanding that someone is trying to spin.

For clarity's sake. In post 177, Chupa does this:



The quoted text from Madcrawdad comes from post #1 of this game. Not from a PM. That's not what the Innocent town PM looks like.

Nar's interactions over the HH, HI, Chup fiasco.

I vote to lynch [AC] Hammerhead 991 I think It/She/He is intentionally trying to cause confusion and get someone lynched.

I'd also like to vote to lynch [AC] HI IQ, but I'm only allowed 1. She/He/It I feel is working with Hammerhead.

It's been clearly shown that there was no "Hey I'm an innocent." It was a quote from post #1, by madcrawdad.

Are there any quotes that back this up?

I see it as RP, nothing more.

Nothing real noteworthy here. Pretty much up to this point there has not been anything commital from Nar with the exception of her vote post.

The H and G keys are next to each other on many keyboards. I assume BG is a typo since there is no other player that fits his description and is held in this Asylum.

Answering a question that was directed to wingnut.

What strikes me is [AC] HI IQ, while everyone else was either staying pat or jumping on HH, It/He/She instead switched to Nem which in turn created the need for more people to break the tie and lynch scum.

I can see a scenario in which it is a blocking tactic designed to protect HH in hopes that someone who is on the fence with Nem would chose to put their vote there instead. That would have saved HH and lynched Nem instead. Aside from my earlier poorly worded remark to Nem, I can't say that I feel either way on her/it/him at this point.

I've already stated that I felt [AC] HI IQ was working with HH to confuse the PM issue.

I vote to lynch [AC] HI IQ

Additionally, I would be hard pressed to clear anyone who voted for HH at this point.

This brings us to an hour after nightfall on day 1.

 

[[AC] UhOhChongo]

In summary, my thoughts on Nar for day 1 are that she didn't really do anything to make her stand out. She did just enough to say that she was trying to help the town.

I think she was doing just enough to blend in. The only stand I saw her take were against HH and HI IQ. Who, as we know, was a general consensus of the town for working together. We also know that that was not the case. HI IQ just got sucked in to HH's spin.

I will continue with Nar's day 2 "contributions".

 

[[AC] Driver8]

A lot less posting than I expected. I see chongo is hard at something. I do agree that the single votes and the no votes are of much interest. People who don't get into it are either not really playing or are hiding.

 

[[AC] UhOhChongo]

Nar's contribution to the game from nightfall day 1 to present.

HI IQ is the scummiest to me so far, followed by Doomsday.

Doomsday for persisting on his nonsense about a post nightfall quote. I think what he is claiming, is a stretch at best.

I feel like I've had tunnel vision on HI IQ, so I will take some time to fill out my list.

Be me a little better. Throughout Day 1 all I did was add fluffy banter, towards the end of Day 1 I caught wind of what I thought was scum in Hammerhead and HI IQ, I voted HH. I said well before nightfall that I thought they were linked. Nightfall comes around and HH flips scum. I stick to HI IQ early on day 2.

Now I have time to read the thread again.

This is Nar's response to GS I should have including GS's post as well but basically he said his impression of Nar was I think the top vote getter is scummiest followed by the next vote getter is second scummiest.

Why would he protect an innocent? He was protecting the leaders of the voting who I have to assume are scum. If my logic is correct.

So, you're saying HH was trying to get people to switch from Nem to Chupacabra?

Yes that is what I am saying.

More blending in.

I turned very busy last night and was unable to fully examine the thread again. I intend on going back and getting quotes, as well as feelings on more players. I can't promise that will happen though, I know I will be busy tonight as well.

I looked back at Hammerhead to see if I could make any connections. HH did poke at Tib over Tibs use of a medication name. What I felt was strange is that C-note referenced medications before Tib did however it was Tib who earned the poke over it.

Scoop seemed too concerned (imo) about Wingnuts wood. People are saying that wing misspelled the word twice in one sentence, but actually it was misspelled once (the same misspelling twice). If Wing really thought wood was the proper word there, and used it twice then it means nothing. Scoop insisted that it might be a tell of some sort.

Chongo, set up a false dichotomy linking Scoop and I and how the wood situation might be important.

Tiberious, My feeling so far is that she/it/he is acting pro-town (at least up through day 1, I need to reread day 2 again). However it/he/she did refer to rebel fighters as "planes." Clearly this is wrong.

Doomsday bothers me because its/hers/his case is based on a misinterpretation of semantics.

My list is not exhaustive or complete.

How about something a little more solid?

Why are you thinking this about these players?

Who is your suspect list and why?