Mafia 88: Insane Asylum (Game Thread)

[[AC] BadHaggis]

Ok, I got some time. I'm going to look at Wing_Nut's posts and see who he was going after that could make the evils hit him. This'll take a little time...

 

[[AC] BadHaggis]

Oh, just a note: reading back, I have to say, Driver really told people to post, but didn't post himself. I'll get back to that at a later point.

 

[[AC] BadHaggis]

Okay, I'm looking through Wing_Nut's posts to see if I can't find out who would want him dead. So bear with me.

wanted to bring both days final tallys for easier comparison

keep in mind

HH scum

star iq doom cnote all innocent I am going to bold innocent votes and italicize and make purple the 1 scum we know vote

Doom and star both voted scoop night 1. Doom was taken out by the vig so no help there. Scoops over reaction to his vote on Star and them being hit day 1 is something that would bear watching but i looked and see star was on scoop. could be something bigger to look out why he reacted that way

here we have scoop not wanting to commit to either for a vote on day 2. his vote was put on tib at a time the tally was 4-3 IQ.
what becomes more interesting on day 2 is that 3 toes moved off IQ to driver after IQ got a fifth vote and Gun moved off Doom when doom got the third vote
BH also followed scoop to Tib
none of them wanted to be associated with an innocents death, sure gun didn't know the vig was going to hit doom but they also made sure if there was a run on doom they were going to get caught up in it.

my main focus will be
scoop
bh
3toes
gun

but it will have to wait till tomorrow

Scoop and Rickets on top of his list.

This is day 1 and just after night fall

here scoop starts the wood "case"

here he attacks star aka a KI for defending me

after being asked why it was pointed out this was his answer

i asked for a better explanation

so after explaing it could be a ploy to act less intelligent and less a threat i asked if less intelligent means less logical

he then never answered but i think he was fishing for votes on the matter,but that is my opinion.

this was right after star was hit

either it was damage control or trying to make it so if anyone did bring it up he could try to get votes on them as being scummy since its a setup

I didn't want this to get really long as i hate reading book posts so i'm going to do a condensed version of day 2 and condensed versions of the others if i can.

scoop day 2

here he explains why he said he smelled a set up

as i stated in the first part of the scoop post scop could use his set up post as a way to name anyone questioning him as scum, here he does exactly that

cnote asks why the single vote at a time there is a close race

his answer

here he says doom looks scummy to him but he doesn't move his vote to him. i believe this is post 701 which means at the time the vote was 5-3 with IQ in the lead. if scoop thought doom was evil why didn't he help lynch him by making the vote closer?

Wing goes after scoop pretty hard here, if the hit was sent in this early (doubtful) scoop could have been responsible, for obvious reasons.

Well there isn't much from 3toes to look at but i believe that even though their two top suspects were innocents that they really believed them to be scum. if scum they have me fooled but i would love to hear more from them,especially some sort of suspect list now that both their suspects are dead innocents.

Looks at 3toes a little, unlikely this has anything to do with his being hit.

Well scoop and rickets are my top suspects at the moment, add in the day 1 third vote on drama that i felt was to try and scare anyone from voting scoop helps my decision. gun would be a third suspect based on the posts pulled above. I need to find a fourth, i know uhoh went into depth on nars posts but they were fourth onto HH don't think they would have voted a team mate when they could have voted nem and put them ahead.
maybe i need to look into uhoh.

Scoop and Rickets top 2, and he went after Scoop more. Either one could have been responsible, but again, I doubt the mafia sent the hit in this early.

I was actually just reading over some of Drivers posts because i didn't like the way he posted we needed to do some digging and then didn't do any themself. in two and a half hours while others pulled posts he did nothing. he questioned tree about his posts saying is rickets his only suspect when in fact tree had also posted on mael and gold earlier. for someone so concerened about what others are doing maybe they should be doing something themselves.

not only did he make that statement,known innocent, though he tried to explain it away as thinking from HHs point of view, but he also still thinks nem is the one HH was protecting evident by both days of voting being on nem. now nem isn't considered a main canidate for lynch and driver then just decides to vote gun for blowing smoke. no mention of any other cases that were mentioned.

my suspects are in no order
scoop
rickets
gun
driver

think i will place my vote now to I vote to lynch scoop

Adds driver to the list, due to his not helping. Votes Scoop.

I retract my vote on scoop and vote to lynch rickets

even though i think rickets would have moved i feel more comfortable voting along some one i think innocent. i don't like driver on gun either and don't understand nars vote on tree at all.

Changes and votes for Rickets, this is getting nearer to nightfall now. This could be when the evils chose their hit. Rickets would have wanted Wing gone so that he wouldn't make a good case against him, possibly.

So, from what I see above, Rickets or Scoop could be responsible for Wing getting hit, so that means I'm gonna look into them after I'm done with Driver.

 

[[AC] BadHaggis]

That is as bad as it gets. We need a good day this time.

Yes, we all need to pitch in...

Where do we go from here. I do not like that we had to non voters. Since a townie was in the lead there was no reason for late shenanigans. I think we need to go back to the day one voting and relook at every one. The current tactics sure are not working.

Again WE have to pitch in. Makes a point of saying WE, not you or I or "the town".

A lot less posting than I expected. I see chongo is hard at something. I do agree that the single votes and the no votes are of much interest. People who don't get into it are either not really playing or are hiding.

So, where were you for that time?

Single votes are Doom, Gun, Oldtoes
No vote Gold, Mael

The question now is which of these has not been of much help.

Gold has had some kind of problem so I will skip them.

Mael has been around a bit but decided he did not have enough to vote with or some such. We need some thoughts from you.

Gun has me worried posted just enough to be here but I do see what was of much use or new ideas.

Doom is dead, sorry to see a townie go.

3 Toes has been active but really sure where they stand on all of this.

I think we all need to get digging.

Then dig...

I have a question, where is everybody?

Where were you?

Let us know if you find anything.

So, did YOU find anything?

I saw one. Rickets the only player of interest?

Is this all you got?

I vote to lynch Gun.

I think he has been of little help and has mostly blown smoke around.

That's your reasoning? WFT, I got dissed for using Chup's reason and you get away with this scotch free? Howed that work out?

They can read in context. I was speaking as if I was HH.

Defending himself, which he is able to show up to do.

I believe I did post who I was looking at and what my thoughts were. If the known innocent written in context is all you got then this town is in trouble.

I will stick with Gun. I will not be around until much later. I am leaving shortly to travel for business.

Decides to stick with gun, disappears, with an excuse, yes, but a true one? AFAIK, he hasn't been back since. He was starting to be looked at, maybe he was told to shut up?

So, to summarize the above, Driver tells everyone else to do some digging, does none of his own. He then votes Gun for a BS reason that no one bothered to argue with (WHY?) and then vanishes after defending himself and being looked into. All in all, scummy, scummy, scummy... I think he is probably where my vote will land.

And now, I have some schoolwork to do, will look into Rickets next, then Scoop.

 

[[AC] BadHaggis]

Wow that was bad. Sorry I wasn't more posty before nightfall, I was on the road in a no-mans-land for internets.

Ok, so we had a bad night.

Oh all the banter today, this post sticks out the most to me. Scoop had been promising to read for quite a while and then this is the result? Leaning the lead vote getter innocent, but they have notes that made them think they were evil? Does not compute. This is a very early, frustration born vote, but for now

I vote to lynch Scoop.

He doesn't show up again till today... wow...

Sorry everyone, the weekend was more hectic than I expected (makes me feel kind of douchey after what I said to others about inactivity so sorry for that), I'll read up and get back into the game tomorrow. I will not be UDing, if you want me gone you'll have to lynch me or let the scum take me out with some tainted Prozac.

Ok, that seems reasonable. Still, would've been nice to have more then 2 posts for you the entire of day 3. And again, no one called him out on it. Why?

 

[[AC] BadHaggis]

And on to Scoop. School can wait, mafia's more important

 

[[AC] BadHaggis]

Scoops over reaction to his vote on Star and them being hit day 1 is something that would bear watching but i looked and see star was on scoop.

here we have scoop not wanting to commit to either for a vote on day 2.

BH also followed scoop to Tib

I'm glad that I didn't commit to either, as my gut feeling was right for HI IQ (I do have him marked as possible evil, no idea why)

See my thoughts above, and the ones I made right after it happened.

I wouldn't consider me and C-Note arguing, as I wouldn't have put a vote on him and I doubt he would've put one on me. I could definitely see scum wanting to hit them if they were grilled as I was, but it could easily turn around and bite them in the rump afterwards. TBH I think that they just went after the person who was asking the most questions.

Isn't it contradictory that we both made the same vote and only I got grilled for it? You couldn't decide between the two leaders, so you went with someone that you thought was scum and could make a case against. I did the same.

It wasn't really an OMGUS (although both my votes could be considered that), but I saw FLAWS in your argument against me, and it doesn't sit right with me the way you kept comparing a move that you supposedly used in a previous game, to my comment on the hit on star-crossed. I wanted to make sure I put a vote in someone I thought was evil, and not worry about jumping on an innocent based off of a "gut feeling".

I don't see how BH protected me, IMO it looked like he saw a decent argument and decided to jump on. It would look nice for him to hide his vote on you, as he probobly figured it would look better than a singleton vote or a kill vote on an innocent. In his defense, I think that he called you out first on your comemnts on the whole set-up thing, but the timing of his vote doesn't sit right with me.

Scoops big defense.

here, I'm using my friends computer and can only sneak on right now to place a vote. I won't be back on until 3ish tommorow, sorry guys. (I'm sleeping over, and school in the morning)

Anyways, I just saw that BH voted for nobody, which concearns me. He's at the top of my scum list, (for jumping onto my argument, hasn't added very much to the game) and Rickets would be my second. I haven't seen very much gameplay wise from rickets, and it would be an easy scum move to show up, throw out a vote, post some fluff, and then leave.

I'm leaning Tib innocent ATM, just because he has been asking questions and answering them. He could still just be scum trying to appear to help the town, but IMO he appears innocent.

So, I vote to lynch BH

So, votes me for reasons that I both understand an agree with. I made myself look scummy, it't no wonder people voted me. Anyway, he doesn't show up again till after nightfall, but he has a reason for it.

Well, i'm on for a sec, could only check the outcome of the nightfall and do some quick reading. Sucks that we lost so many again, especially when there are still 3-4 scum left. (Did we start with 4 or 5?)

Anyways, I say that gold's identity should be made known. In any other game they would've had to face ridicule for UDing, and they never sent a PM explaining what was going on. I think that their identity should be made public...

And he checks in after nightfall, sooner then he said he would.

Summary: Doesn't post much day 3, but has a valid reason.

 

[[AC] BadHaggis]

Ok, so, in summary of my last couple posts, my "list", insofar as I have one, would be

Driver- told others to post and dig, but did none himself. He was here for most of day 3, but never once did he do any real digging. Pointed out the "we" have to dig, possibly because he wanted to fit in. Votes Gun for BS reason, then defends himself a little and vanishes.
Rickets- Didn't post much of anything all of day 3.

And that's my list right now.

BTW, while reading up, i couldn't help but notice that several people seemed to vanish at around the same time. I'll need to go back and check on that, see if there could be a connection.

 

[[AC] BadHaggis]

Ok, so I've dumped the possible correlation between leaving idea, it's not feasible.

 

[[AC] BadHaggis]

Voops, gotta place my vote.

I vote to lynch Driver