Mafia 92: Night of the living Mafia... the play

[the wizard]

Haven't had coffee yet but let's see if we have this straight.

If I understand the rules correctly, and JB's clarification, we started this game with two teams. As soon as the first innocent townie gets lynched, there is then another team.

We then have a game of three teams and there will be only one winner. If this is correct then the discussion about the zombies being careful about using their hit is a moot point as, if I understand this correctly, if the town wins the only winners will be the surviving townies. That is to say, none of the innocents that get lynched will share in the victory even if none of the zombies use their hit.

Does that sound about right?

I feel so much like a zombie myself before coffee. :coffee2:

 

[the wizard]

If someone is "A win is a win, regardless" type person, then I guess they may turn on the town for possible zombie win. Somebody who actually enjoys the battle of wits, though, is not going to find much to cheer about by becoming zombified and turning on the town just to win for the zombies.

IMO there's the possibility for an honorable zombie win and a not-so-honorable zombie win.



Based on JB's clarification, that is correct.



Agreed, and now I'm done. Consistently lynching scum late in the game makes it a non-issue.

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Interested in hearing Razz's response to Pappy regarding giving advice to the zombie team, especially since being clarified that the zombies can only steal a win.

Even in my sleep clouded mind, it did seem odd that Razz would continue on the track of advising how to use the hits after JB posted it would not be a shared victory.

 

[the wizard]

This from the rules,

Zombies: When an innocent townie is lynched, they will come back as a zombie. Zombies will not be able to post in the thread, but they will have one hit they may use the next nightfall. Whether or not they choose to use that hit, their undead existence will end at that time. Lynched mafia members will not become zombies, nor will mafia hit victims.


So I was mistaken in my previous post. Those that are hit by the mafia, though dead, would still share in the town victory should the town emerge the victor here.

 

[rich311k]

I think that we are not really going to get a sense how the zombie thing will play out until it starts to happen. If a zombie especially an early lynch really wants to help the town they should probably do nothing unless they are certain of the target.

 

[Fishfriend1]

Ah, another bright day of mafia...

Its never to early to be watching players. I'm watching everyone just wanted these 3 to know I was particularly interested in them due to what was said and respond to.

You have a problem with me watching those 3? Same to you FF, I see you also had a post questioning me about my watching post. Is there a reason you 2 are worried?

IS there a reason you're so defensive about it? I noted that you we're jumping in there head first (like I normally do) and then jm1212 noted it and you got nervous and jumped on it. See, what I'm thinking now is that me thinking such a thing, meh, that's nothing, no one takes me all too seriously anyway, and it's day 1. Then Jm comes in and says the same thing. You get scared, for reasons unknown. Of course, now I think it's cause you're mafia. So, Ice, care to explain why you got so jumpy when Jm also commented on your jumping in head first?

I agree that the the player who now has the option to hit someone based on a gut feeling should think long and hard about whether or not it is worth it. However, Since they do not have any connection to a particular team but the zombies, I would hate to see someone go easy in a game like this. If I were to be linched and had the option of hitting someone to help the zombie team, I'd take it but that's just me. Just some open advice, any zombies who decide to use their hit should pay very close attention to the next days events.

First off, congrats on the job but am I the only one who sees the hypocrisy in this statement?

I agree that eary in the game OMGUS and gut feelings tend to be less than spot on but I wouldn't count on every gut feeling to be "less than favorable".

No OMGUS between games! :lipssealedsmilie:

Thank you JB that helps a lot!

Just some of my thoughts...

hypocrisy? Me? Where? Care to explain that, cause I'm not seeing it...

I just want to say first congrats FF on your job! I remember being excited about my first job too. Don't forget to vote before you head in to work though... just because you have an excuse does not make you untouchable for Bala. Second, I think it's in poor play to list an excuse as to why you will not be here though... it's great that you have a job and all, but come on. You've played enough Mafia games to know that an excuse as one of your first posts is incredibly scummy..... however, that said, I don't recall you using the best judgements in most games I've been with you.

ok, I am reading through here but something is not clear to me. Everyone is talking about the zombie hits before the next nightfall and for them to be using their hits wisely and all but maybe I am just not getting it.... I think Noods had it right though.... when turned into a zombie, the zombies don't form a team... they make their hit and then they are done. How would they have any kind of strategy or anything like that?

What's wrong with a simple warnig? And it wasn't my first post in the game either, Post 8 was. I got me a job and wanted ter warn you all about me not being her at nightfall. Next time I'll just not show up and you'll all vote me for not being there...

Now i haven't played in a while, and I know that other games have gone on since my last, but I don't really think we should consider FF to be a "noob" making "noob mistakes". he has been in the game long enough to know what to say and how to. how long do we just dismiss the "bad judgement"?

I agree with this, when will you peeps stop thinking I'm a newb simply cause I tend to be spontainious.

Looks like I missed the roll call. Anyway, I'm here too.

Noods, what FF referred to has nothing to do with mafia games but I agree with your "senseless" part of the comment. Doesn't need to come into this game at all, IMO.

FF, you've got no one to blame for that but yourself. I hope you learned what you needed and will simply move on from there.

Good game, everyone

It was a joke, sheesh, is there no day 1 joking allowed in this game? I even had "lol" and a smily! :mad2:

 

[jbradt]

So, correct me if I'm wrong JB, the zombie team wins basically by stealing the win from either the town or mafia? If so then I guess my original thoughts stand seeing as the zombie would win as a separate "group" and not alongside the town or mafia.

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Editorial: Kash... I loooooove your new sig line. It gave me a warm fuzzy feeling. Also, I'm a purist... Romero zombies for me, if that gives you guys any inkling as to my thoughts on zombies in general and why they are set up the way they are in this game.


I've been up for about 20 hours now working on the flooring for my house, so I've only skimmed the thread. If any questions have been adressed to me that I missed, please pm me. I'll most likely be unconscious soon and for a long time.

 

[dirtydawg10]

If someone is "A win is a win, regardless" type person, then I guess they may turn on the town for possible zombie win. Somebody who actually enjoys the battle of wits, though, is not going to find much to cheer about by becoming zombified and turning on the town just to win for the zombies.

IMO there's the possibility for an honorable zombie win and a not-so-honorable zombie win.



Based on JB's clarification, that is correct.



Agreed, and now I'm done. Consistently lynching scum late in the game makes it a non-issue.

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Interested in hearing Razz's response to Pappy regarding giving advice to the zombie team, especially since being clarified that the zombies can only steal a win.

I agree with you Mad, on the part in bold. I would think that a zombie would try and take their best shot at killing scum with their hit. For two reasons, less mafia to take out for the win and some sort of allegiance to their original team in case the zombies can't pull off a win.

 

[jm1212]

Ah, another bright day of mafia...



IS there a reason you're so defensive about it? I noted that you we're jumping in there head first (like I normally do) and then jm1212 noted it and you got nervous and jumped on it. See, what I'm thinking now is that me thinking such a thing, meh, that's nothing, no one takes me all too seriously anyway, and it's day 1. Then Jm comes in and says the same thing. You get scared, for reasons unknown. Of course, now I think it's cause you're mafia. So, Ice, care to explain why you got so jumpy when Jm also commented on your jumping in head first?



hypocrisy? Me? Where? Care to explain that, cause I'm not seeing it...



What's wrong with a simple warnig? And it wasn't my first post in the game either, Post 8 was. I got me a job and wanted ter warn you all about me not being her at nightfall. Next time I'll just not show up and you'll all vote me for not being there...



I agree with this, when will you peeps stop thinking I'm a newb simply cause I tend to be spontainious.



It was a joke, sheesh, is there no day 1 joking allowed in this game? I even had "lol" and a smily! :mad2:

just so you know, i'm not saying you are a vet, FF...just saying the "newb mistakes" shouldnt just be dismissed anymore.

 

[RazzleFish]

Ummm, two questions...

1) The zombies' only part in the game is to use their one hit the nightfall after they are lynched and then they are done, so why should they "pay very close attention to the next days events"?

2) Why would you want to give any advice at all to the zombie team?

1) The zombies will use their hits the nighfall after they are linched so they should watch that days events and (with some hopeful loyalty) make a good dicision. I know they have no connection to either team but i would hope that they would work in the towns favor....... Although it would be the town who voted them off. Now I've just confused myself even more! Haha

2) I guess I should have reworded my original statement. It is not really solid advice mut more of a suggestion that I hope people will consider when using their zoombie hits.

 

[Fishfriend1]

just so you know, i'm not saying you are a vet, FF...just saying the "newb mistakes" shouldnt just be dismissed anymore.

:mad2: I am not a newb, but I'm not a vet? Which is it?