Mafia 94: When Gingers Attack; the play

[Lady G]

That post and his vote for Rich

 

[Piranha86]

(g/o)Hi guys, sorry I've been absent, I've been helping out my grandmother. I go up every once in a while to help with chores and stuff since she can't get around very well. She's worried about getting robbed and my grandfather isn't around anymore so I'm spending a few days up here.(g/o)

I know it was a hit-and-run vote, and I apologize. Rich has a smooth charisma that reminded me of his gameplay when we were on a scum team together. It was kind of a gut feeling.

Assuming there are 2 scum left, I'd say it's LG and AAF/JPap. Can't decide who for the last one. It's starting ot look like there's going to be a train on me tonight, so vote me if you want, but trust me, it's a bad idea. I have suspected LG from the start, so I'll stick with my gut.

I vote to lynch Lady G.

I will try to be back on before nightfall, but there are no guarantees.

 

[RazzleFish]

You make a valid point, and it is possible, quite honestly anything is possible. The hit on Rich confuses me to say the least. He is someone that pretty much was on everyones list, and could of been a "easy" target to go after I am sure. The thing is...he was picked for a reason and I'm sure it was to try and point toward someone, BUT we don't know if the dead are able to stay in communication, there have been games they were and games they weren't...if they are not able to still communicate I could see where a newer player could/would see it as a good idea, but he has to have a team mate still in communication with him at this point since there are 2 left. Now I know this is something that can also point toward myself but IF it is AAF I would think the other evil wasn't here to help him decide, only 2 ppl weren't here from what I see and that was myself and Pir. I know what I am but I am not sure what Pir is. I don't think Pir was here the night of 2H's hit either, Wizard was gone at that point, and Kash was lynched...and from the look of things she wasn't going to be around either?

I questioned this earlier in the game (after wiz was lynched??) but the only one to respond was AAF to say I was admitting to being evil.

Psst...Rich is alrready gone

If Chill had investigated me..he most defiantly would not of said I was scum.

I know, my thoughts were what the mafia should have done and that was to hit myself or pappy and then vote rich for tonights lynch. That is something that seems so obvious to me I assume that anyone besides AAF would think the same. Which goes with my thoughts of AAF being Chuck.

(g/o)Hi guys, sorry I've been absent, I've been helping out my grandmother. I go up every once in a while to help with chores and stuff since she can't get around very well. She's worried about getting robbed and my grandfather isn't around anymore so I'm spending a few days up here.(g/o)

I know it was a hit-and-run vote, and I apologize. Rich has a smooth charisma that reminded me of his gameplay when we were on a scum team together. It was kind of a gut feeling.

Assuming there are 2 scum left, I'd say it's LG and AAF/JPap. Can't decide who for the last one. It's starting ot look like there's going to be a train on me tonight, so vote me if you want, but trust me, it's a bad idea. I have suspected LG from the start, so I'll stick with my gut.

I vote to lynch Lady G.

I will try to be back on before nightfall, but there are no guarantees.

What makes you need to assume? It has been said that the game started with 3 scum, they turned Kash, and then we lynched 2. So there are only two left. No need to assume anything, right?

What makes you say LG is scum? What makes you think AAF is scum? What makes you think Pappy is scum? I understand LG, and I understand what you might be thinking for AAF but Pappy? A post that only has excuses and then a vote with no reasons isn't going to help the town...

Why do you think there will be a train on you tonight? You only have one vote right now... Honestly I am thinking more of AAF.

Also Pir, threatening townies is NOT something that makes you look good. You know that.

 

[RazzleFish]

(g/o)Hi guys, sorry I've been absent, I've been helping out my grandmother. I go up every once in a while to help with chores and stuff since she can't get around very well. She's worried about getting robbed and my grandfather isn't around anymore so I'm spending a few days up here.(g/o)

I know it was a hit-and-run vote, and I apologize. Rich has a smooth charisma that reminded me of his gameplay when we were on a scum team together. It was kind of a gut feeling.

Assuming there are 2 scum left, I'd say it's LG and AAF/JPap. Can't decide who for the last one. It's starting ot look like there's going to be a train on me tonight, so vote me if you want, but trust me, it's a bad idea. I have suspected LG from the start, so I'll stick with my gut.

I vote to lynch Lady G.

I will try to be back on before nightfall, but there are no guarantees.

Also you say you know your last vote was a hit-and-run vote but what would you consider this to be?

 

[RazzleFish]

Well it's gone quiet again...... Looks like Pir's a hit and run. AAF should be out of school in an hour or so, I hope he responds... We need some talking or I'll have to post in slanted font again!

 

[Lady G]

Well, that's exactly where I thought Pir would vote...I would be much easier to get others to vote for and I'm pretty sure we are looking at a remaining team of AAF/Pir. I am thinking AAF would be Chuck, and no way was Pir going to vote that way, Razz and Pap really neither have done anything to point toward them, I on the other hand have been looked at quite a bit. I really want to take Chuck out, but at this point a vote on AAF even if Razz agrees with me and votes there, really will do nothing because it looks as though Pap wont be back so his vote can't change and I most likely wont be around since I am going to my Moms. I fully expect if votes went to AAF he will just come on and vote me, leaving it in a tie so for the sake of at least getting one of them my vote will be going to Pir. Yes, they will hit one of us tonight but they will be down to one who we can take tomorrow night along with the win! I will try to get back on at my Moms, but can't promise anything....

I VOTE TO TEST PIR!!

 

[allaboutfish]

Alright this caught my eye. Notice that in the first post he didn't list anyone as scum except Rich. Turns out Rich was the hit... Not very smart play IMO because rich would likely have been the next suspect... Then he votes DD after saying that there was no analysis. Yes I questioned him on it but if there was noting before, my questioning shouldn't have made it so clear then. This makes me wonder if maybe AAF is Chuck. He has slid through all game with minimal questioning and I never even had the thought of him being a PR but it makes sense, doesn't it? If roles were random then he could have gotten a role very easily. And if they weren't random I could see JB picking him simply because he is a noob and nobody would suspect it. He was so convinced that "Rich was scum" but when his case didn't stick, he resorted to the next best option and that was to hit him. Going back to the underlined section in this post, a noob wouldn't know any better, however I think anybody else in the game would have picked someone who was not being looked at. Then they could just jump on Rich and win the game.

Does that make any sense? I feel like it didn't flow very well....

ok if i were chuck i wouldnt even hit rich. that would be dumb since i suspected him. also dont you think the other mafia member would correct me?

 

[RazzleFish]

ok if i were chuck i wouldnt even hit rich. that would be dumb since i suspected him. also dont you think the other mafia member would correct me?

Well being new, I'm not sure if you would have thought about that before hand. Also like we said before it is likely that the other ginger was not around and you had to make the decision by yourself.

 

[allaboutfish]

I think it was a case of wiz getting stuck with an early vote. We know he was Jessica and we know the vial wasn't used N1 despite it being the most opportune time for scum to use it. The fact that wiz admittedly was not around at nightfall may play in to both situations. If Wiz saw an early chance to distance but couldn't pull off because he wasn't around that could easily explain why his vote on Pir carried through and almost got him lynched.

I tend to agree. I think 2H's constant posting about LG being innocent and then Chill saying that he didn't think she was scum sidetracked us. While I cannot say for certain that Chill did or did not investigate her (I think he would have been more obvious since his death was eminent) I could see her being scum at this point for the reasons mentioned before everyone, including myself, pretty much looked the other way.



I've been wondering why the last two hits have been 2H and Rich. To be honest either of them could have been up for the lynch the day after they were hit and an inexperienced Chuck may explain why they were chosen instead of going for other players. It just doesn't seem like the best strategy to remove players that could draw votes. The only problem I have with that is I do not see Wiz or Kash allowing a new player to dictate the hits themselves. However if they have been as busy as they have mentioned in the thread and not actually been around for nightfalls (assuming Wiz is on a similar schedule as Kash for the latest ones when he couldn't have posted since he was dead) then maybe Chuck had to make a couple of calls on their own? I find it odd that 2H was a suspect of AAF then was hit, and then the same for Rich. Would AAF, as Chuck, think that would be the best way to play the role? Possibly.

True, I must have missed the part of him not being around but then could we assume that there were no other gingers on pir? I think the mafia team would to all they could (even if they couldn't move Wiz's vote, to lynch an innocent over their own. But then that brings us back to people not being around for nightfall which another ginger could have done the same...

I think that between 2H and Chill the town (myself included) just kind of assumed that G couldn't be scum any more since Wiz was. If Chill had investigated her, I am sure he would have said outright that G is scum, but he didn't. I think that we need to look past 2H protecting her because in reality he had no idea that she is innocent. He just wanted us to vote someone else. While he may have been right, there have been times where he was wrong.

I think it could very well be that Chuck had to make a few calls. But even if he wasn't alone, both Chill and Kash said that keeping a noob in line can be like herding cats. Honestly, I expected the mafia to hit either myself or jpappy, and then take rich out this night and win. But someone as new as AAF might not take time to look at what they would do the next day... The more I think about it, the more it makes sense but I would like some other opinions as well.

ok seriously im not as dumb as yall think i am. why would i vote for someone that i had just said i suspected from the beginning? the gingers could be trying to set me up. im a newb, i havent been here all the time, and ive slipped up a few times so it makes perfectly good since that they would set me up.

 

[allaboutfish]

Well being new, I'm not sure if you would have thought about that before hand. Also like we said before it is likely that the other ginger was not around and you had to make the decision by yourself.

if i were scum i would take out more threatning innocents. like you and pap (assuming youre innocents).