Mafia 94: When Gingers Attack; the play

[Lady G]

Well, I am going to try and explain a little here. I know my vote switch looked terrible with the timing and everything. My biggest downfall in these games is the fact when I think I have something I tend to just run with it...not really looking at other things, I get something in my mind and that's it. That's the one thing I have been trying to work on most of all, but my head just gets crazy and I can't help myself. Now, I'm not saying 2H is innocent...but I did step back and reread others posts and his responses, and even though I do believe many things he said sounded bad...when seeing what others thought he meant and him confirming those thoughts, I could see the meaning behind his posts. At that point, I just didn't feel right leaving my vote there. I switched to Dawg (which now of course I wish I hadn't) because I could see the things others had brought up, I didn't want to just put a random vote on a random person.
I will be going back and re looking at everything again today, but I do have company coming over today (a friend/husband and their 3 kids) so I wont be here much until later.

 

[the wizard]

Final vote count Night 1:

Pir (4): Wiz, AAF, Dawg, Razz
Chill (1): Kash
Dawg (1): Plant
Plant (4): Pappy, 2H, Labby, Rich
Kash (3): Zaffy, Pir, Chill
2H (1): LG
Labby (1): DD

I don't know what you're talking about.

Dawg -5- Wiz(506) Rich(541) Kash(544) 2H(571) LG(598)
2H -4- Dawg(524) LG(531) Pir(545) DD(554) Dawg(637) AAF(632)
Kash -1- Chill(557) Dawg(618)
LG -3- Lab(561) Razz(585) Jpap(600)

I thought that I would put the final vote counts out in the same post so we can look at them side by side.

What catches my eye right of the bat is that Rich and 2H both voted for both of our confirmed innocents.

I am going to go back and check for the reasons they posted for their votes.

 

[allaboutfish]

rich hgas something against me and i dont like it. maybe he's trying to take down more inoccents. i also dont like how rich and 2h have been communicating. rich has been repeatably backing up 2H. so far im suspecting these two, but i wanna hear more from them and everybody else before i make a deccision.

 

[the wizard]

vote count:

Pir (4): Wiz, AAF, Dawg, Chill
Chill (1): Kash
Dawg (1): Plant
AAF (1): Rich
Plant (3): Pappy, 2H, Labby
Kash (2): Zaffy, Pir
2H (1): LG
Labby (1): DD

no vote from Razz... did I miss it?

This was the last vote count posted before Rich voted for Plant. Pir had 4 votes and Plant had 3.

I retract my vote vote to geneticaly test Pir

and I vote to genetically test Kash

Chill switches his vote creating a tie between Pir and Plant.

I retract my vote on AAF and vote to genetically test Plant. Maek it a little more interesting and the vote on AAF is a waste.

Rich switches his vote putting Plant in the lead to "make it a little more interesting"

 

[allaboutfish]

ive decided to post the player list to figure some stuff out.
Razzlefish
Dangerdoll
Allaboutfish
Lab_Rat-hit used to kill. (innocent)
Jpappy789
Chill
Lady G
Rich311k
TwoHobbies
Zaffy-hit (pr)
DirtyDawg10-lynched. (innocent)
the wizard
Kashta
Plantling-lynched. (innocent)
Piranha
our numbers 7 there's 4
we NEED to take out mafia tonight.

 

[Kashta]

I'm just glad it's the weekend, finally. I'll be on and off all day giving the thread a full read-through.

 

[the wizard]

Not sure how much more time I'll have to play tonight so I'll vote.

I'm sure this comes as no surprise to anyone.

I vote to genetically test Plant

2H's initial vote and reason for Plant. When questioned, he seemed to not answer with a direct answer as for his reason.

I'M NOT SURE. Where are those sparkly letters!

You sure like using that "Bold Statement" term a lot. So you first say I'm following others thoughts with my posts, then when I post mine you say I'm wasting the towns time. I can't seem to win with you, what exactly do you want of me?

I voted plant because she missed that you hadn't posted when she called me out. I thought that was because you and her were talking outside the game thread.

And what exactly have you done, except try to get the town to chase some easy targets?

It took 2 days to get him to post an actual reason for his vote on Plant. Note that he said it was because she missed that I had yet to post when she mentioned something about his lack of posting.

Plant had been stating from the beginning that she was playing from her phone so I would think it obvious keeping track of things would be difficult to say the least.

So Plantling....you seem to be very interested in pointing the finger at low posters and gliders, yet when you pointed me out you somehow missed that Wizzard hadn't posted.
Is it just me, or did you know he was around and going to post soon?

Well, I was really hoping this morning that other players would have remembered plantling's play style. I don't remember ever playing a game before with her, so don't really know what to think. While some seem to think she may have intentionally thrown a teammate under the bus I believe she truely thought I was the only one who hadn't posted.

After calling her out saying she knew I was around he posted the above. What really strikes me is that he states that he "truly" believed she had made a mistake.

If that is true why didn't you change your vote?

Pir, I think I'll just agree with Kash on you. I see his posts so far as normal Pir. Don't really know which side of the town your on.

Chill, Kash kind of beat me to the punch on you. I was thinking the same things she wrote this morning, last night. I remember you sprinkling in some game play here and there. Is it all rust?

You agree with Kashta's thoughts on chill but didn't post anything about it.

That's it for now. Wish I could be here during the day tomorrow to see what else happens.



As it stands right now, I'm hard pressed to find a compelling suspect. Overall, I think a few people seem real suspicious for not making any effort to help us in the time they've been present (based on posts made).

I vote to genetically test Chill.

I think Chill has been the least helpful poster thus far. This is basically a gut call based on a real low signal-to-noise ratio from him.

When he's a townie, Chill is quite good at scum digging. But I have yet to see him even start doing this. He's given us lots of fun role play stuff, posted music videos, and tended bar. Thanks for all that, Chill... but I already have a great bartender so I won't be needing you for that.

I'd much rather have you helping us poke around for clues to find those without souls.

Kashta's vote and reason on Chill.

I am no math teacher but something doesn't add up.

You left your vote on Plant after stating she made a mistake, agree with Kashta that chill hasn't been helping the town, yet you don't vote for Chill.

If I understand this game correctly, innocents are supposed to help the town are they not?

Plant was trying to help the town by getting people to post.

By your own posting you don't think Chill was helping the town.

Who was your vote on?

 

[the wizard]

Got my quotes...

Expect a case soon.

>.< they all dissapeared after I posted that...... so either later tonight or tomorrow.

We are still waiting for your case Pir. Are we going to see it soon or are you just going to hide as you did D2?

It seems that after you barely squeaked through the test D1 you have stopped your input to the game. Were you told to lay low?

 

[TwoHobbies]

Wiz's first post a little after midnight. Notice now he mentions G & I.

2H, your posts did not answer my concerns. I do believe that everyone cares about how many scum there are, however, I did not question you on that. I simply asked if G caught you in a slip when you were discussing the matter.

What really concerns me is that you seem to have everything figured out by D2 even though we have not genetically tested any scum yet. I am concerned that you seem to be on the defensive side.

You have made some pretty bold claims for this early in the game.

His next post

It seems to me that there was too much discussion about why the Ginger's didn't use their serum last night. Honestly, can we benefit from this type of distraction?

I think I will go back and see who started the topic because it was a distraction and I don't think that there was any bush kicking going on while it was being discussed.

Mentions me again.

A couple of things here.

First, it appears as though 2H was the first to bring up that they didn't use their serum.

Second, rather that look at who voted Plant off, he wants to look at those who did not post or behave in a suspicious manner.

If you are pro town, I cannot grasp your logic. It seems to me that only scum would want to avoid looking at those responsible for voting off an innocent.

Just keeping my name front and center.

How can you be so sure? Why the vote switches if all the lead vote getters were innocent?



Again bringing up the serum not being used. 2H, it would appear to me that you have been trying to distract the town. You make bold statements with out any evidence.

You brought up the scum not using the serum twice. It then became a topic that pretty much dominated the thread today and where did that get us? Did we uncover any deep dark scum secrets?

On a final note, you have yet to actually state why you voted Plant. JP gave his reason, LR gave her reason and Rich stated his reason. You on the other hand said something like this shouldn't come as a surprise.

Your play has not been very pro town IMO.

First mention of Dawg

I need to vote before going to work and still am unclear on where it would be best placed.

JP brought up a point that I must say I completely missed. Dawg only bringing up that Rich was giving advise in the game about how the scum should use the serum and not mentioning Labby on the topic at all. Combine that with the fact that when he was posting about the vote switches he himself stated that he didn't include all the voting in his post.

I know he explained why but let's not forget Dawg is one of the few that can get away with slipping in the thread and explaining it away and no one thinks anything of it. (Not saying that was the case this time but it does make one pause.)

I guess this was just to cover himself for not wanting to vote Pir.........again.

Meanwhile, Pir has basically been absent since nightfall. The few posts he has made,I think there were three, make me wonder is tonight his UD?

Because of this possibility, I will not return my vote there tonight as it is hit or miss if I can sneak on the thread during the day once I vote it is pretty much there to stay for that reason.

Mentions me again.

Would like to see something from 2H before voting as I really would like to be enlightened as to what made him say what he has since night fall.

After all that, he votes Dawg. Why is that Wiz?

I don't have anymore time so

I vote to genetically test Dawg

I will try to get on with my phone if nothing else today to see his response it is more a gut feel than anything. Dawg is better than to bring up only one player for doing something another player was also doing.

He had to already know I was in big trouble. Did you want to make sure there were two innocents up Wiz.

I believe this was an answer to a question from Labby.

Basically you and Rich said the same thing about the serum. What strikes me is that Dawg called Rich for it and stated he was giving advise in the thread. Initially I missed the fact that he didn't mention you but it stuck in my head after I did see it.

As for the discussion on the serum, with the heat and how my days have been I have been kind of foggy in my mind. It has been difficult to sift through all of the nonsense. Yes a couple of possibilities might have come out of it, but in essence it was more of trying to get inside the scum teams head. How is that different then trying to get inside the mod's head? (referring to were roles random or not?)

We all know that to be a distraction and waste of time and generally go after anyone that tries to get us going into that mindset.

Another post to me.

How many times did you say hit? Then after someone posts that the hitman is dead you say you meant test/lynch? How convenient. If I didn't think Dawg to be a bigger threat to the town when evil I would change my vote to you.

A post to JB about me.

Got to run but wanted to ask this real quick, JP, correct me if I am wrong but it looks like you are defending 2H.

Care to explain why? You don't find his posting to be scummy?

His last post before nightfall, questioning Jpap about me.

I didn't mean that you were but when you see posts that start with "If I were scum I would...." that is exactly what we don't want the town to do we want to kick bushes.

Crap I gotta go I won't be back before night fall but will be here for the night fall this weekend.

It really looks like Wiz posted a lot about me, yet his vote was on Dawg.

 

[TwoHobbies]

Now I have a question for you Wiz.

We all know JB was the game mod, and this game hinges on Chuck living, or dieing. Giving JB's feelings on PIR. Why did you feel he was the best choice for your day one vote?
You also made it sound like he would have been your choice for day two, if it wasn't for fear of him UDing.