So you think MC thought DD was innocent so he placed his vote on her to hide? I think MC was trying to tell us something and we missed it. I don't think MC was trying to hide and his comment about JPap confirms it...for me anyway.
Mafia 95 - "Mayor's Mansion" (The Play)
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Ok, I have very little time right now and I am going to use it to explain my thoughts. I may or may not have time later to go and pull posts but right now I am using what time I have to say what I see.....
I do believe MC investigated Doll, MC is old school mafia and hasn't played in quite a while...in the older games it was not unusual in any way for the detective to jump out of the box right after nightfall and vote who they found to be mafia. Then try and build a case on that person. Someone questioned me about her playing more this game (or something on those lines) that is not what I said or meant, I said when she is innocent she is more spuratic meaning she gets frazzled more easily and mixes her words up more making it easier for a "case" to be built on her. When she is mafia she seems to be more calm in her responses they are more thought out. I see that in this game.
Yes, I questioned MC..of course I did, it would of been stupid not too, I didn't know his role and yes he was making posts that drew attention to him, although with people pounding in his head that he was being illogical I'm sure he was frustrated..to the point of just giving up the fight. I didn't want anyone to pick up on the fact I thought he was detective, and hoped others saw that (obviously) they didn't (well at least the innocents didn't) and I believe the scum tried the hardest to get him lynched so they could get 2, fortunately the DR. made the right choice last night (THANK YOU DOC).
My vote to Labby..yes it stood out and I knew it would, but I was NOT going to vote MC, and even though I could see thoughts behind Wizard and Chill, I didn't feel it for either of them..I wasn't going to vote there either. Was I afraid to be the kill vote, or tie vote, some have asked, I sure didn't want to be in that spot NO of course not because I didn't think any were the scummiest. Did I not want to lynch a "team mate" some have asked...nope I sure didn't the town needs all the innocents we can keep.
Now, Pap and obviously Labby have a HUGE problem with my vote to Lab and my vote to Doll...why is that exactly? Both were very quick to jump on me for my vote to Doll after nightfall, neither could or acted like they could fathom the thought that he had investigated Doll...why is that such a hard thing to put your head around?
At this point I have Doll, Labby, Pap...possibly Zaff as my tops.
Yes, of course I can see the case for UN but I really think he made that post out of frustration. I don't think it is a case of either UN or Doll is mafia they both very well may be, but he could of only had one invest and even though it was brought up about the "something tells me" Pap is innocent, I really do not see any other reason he would of jumped right in with a vote to Doll if he hadn't investigated her...he had to of known that move would draw alot of attention to him, he's not stupid and I'm sure he thought he would be able to convince others before nightfall, or at least get others to look more at her, but instead he was attacked and attacked pretty hard and non stop by others, he had to go on the defense and that never turns out good for anyone. So IMO the ones saying he did it to himself really need to go back and see what really went on.
My vote stays and unless something more convensing comes up it will.
I do believe MC investigated Doll, MC is old school mafia and hasn't played in quite a while...in the older games it was not unusual in any way for the detective to jump out of the box right after nightfall and vote who they found to be mafia. Then try and build a case on that person. Someone questioned me about her playing more this game (or something on those lines) that is not what I said or meant, I said when she is innocent she is more spuratic meaning she gets frazzled more easily and mixes her words up more making it easier for a "case" to be built on her. When she is mafia she seems to be more calm in her responses they are more thought out. I see that in this game.
Yes, I questioned MC..of course I did, it would of been stupid not too, I didn't know his role and yes he was making posts that drew attention to him, although with people pounding in his head that he was being illogical I'm sure he was frustrated..to the point of just giving up the fight. I didn't want anyone to pick up on the fact I thought he was detective, and hoped others saw that (obviously) they didn't (well at least the innocents didn't) and I believe the scum tried the hardest to get him lynched so they could get 2, fortunately the DR. made the right choice last night (THANK YOU DOC).
My vote to Labby..yes it stood out and I knew it would, but I was NOT going to vote MC, and even though I could see thoughts behind Wizard and Chill, I didn't feel it for either of them..I wasn't going to vote there either. Was I afraid to be the kill vote, or tie vote, some have asked, I sure didn't want to be in that spot NO of course not because I didn't think any were the scummiest. Did I not want to lynch a "team mate" some have asked...nope I sure didn't the town needs all the innocents we can keep.
Now, Pap and obviously Labby have a HUGE problem with my vote to Lab and my vote to Doll...why is that exactly? Both were very quick to jump on me for my vote to Doll after nightfall, neither could or acted like they could fathom the thought that he had investigated Doll...why is that such a hard thing to put your head around?
At this point I have Doll, Labby, Pap...possibly Zaff as my tops.
Yes, of course I can see the case for UN but I really think he made that post out of frustration. I don't think it is a case of either UN or Doll is mafia they both very well may be, but he could of only had one invest and even though it was brought up about the "something tells me" Pap is innocent, I really do not see any other reason he would of jumped right in with a vote to Doll if he hadn't investigated her...he had to of known that move would draw alot of attention to him, he's not stupid and I'm sure he thought he would be able to convince others before nightfall, or at least get others to look more at her, but instead he was attacked and attacked pretty hard and non stop by others, he had to go on the defense and that never turns out good for anyone. So IMO the ones saying he did it to himself really need to go back and see what really went on.
My vote stays and unless something more convensing comes up it will.
Where did I say anything even remotely close to that, Dawg? I think his vote for DD came from heightened emotion. I don't think much logic can be read into the things MC did. I think it was mostly excitement to play again and frustration. I think the invest on Jpap scenario is more likely than the other two, but I still don't think we should put much stock in that either. In fact, I think that the talk about the investigation is pretty much a red herring, and the people still pushing the conversation are more interested in confusing our poor, stupid town than trying to save it.
Where would you rank your ability? If Innocent certainly more valauble then the two you tried to save on Day1? I know you said you didn't have your usual sharpness but I'm seeing a lot of excuses here. At the moment you're givng me the most concen.
Bally I know you had some sort of laptop issue but I have seen you lying low when scum in past games care to join Kash's little party?
You didn't say it but you were questioning my post where I was pointing out that MC was not trying to hide. I thought you saw it the other way around.
Here's our conversation.
I bolded the last line of this to reply to..
I'll leave it up to others to interpret that, and I'll bet not one of them comes up with this:
Where did you come up with that first part? It seems to me more like you were trying to start a case and get me to say something stupid. I haven't been around much so it might be easy to get people to jump on me at this point. Again let me say that I believe those pushing to look at everything MC did/said for a clue that may or may not be there is a distraction technique.
Still don't get where you got this from.
In the post you commented on I was commenting on DD's original post...
Then I wrote this disagreeing with what she had posted.
I was trying to understand what you were getting at. It looked to me that you were agreeing that MC may have been trying to hide.
I understand that MC voted DD first. Barring that the only case has been offlt weak.
Un bounced his vote around and was over the top defesive lkast evening, that screams scum to me.
I do not see any other way to look at it.
G, that last post has me very concerned about you now, I see the same twisting that Ratty was trying and is still trying to pull.
Un bounced his vote around and was over the top defesive lkast evening, that screams scum to me.
I do not see any other way to look at it.
G, that last post has me very concerned about you now, I see the same twisting that Ratty was trying and is still trying to pull.
And what did I "twist" Rich?
I can completely see your point about his last post, but personally I believe if he invested UN and found scum....I wouldthink he would of pushed for UN from the beginning...not wait like that.
