Mafia #98: The Grinch Returns -- The Play

[jpappy789]

I think this is correct...if not someone please correct it...

UN- Ice 162
Dun- FF 176, Ice 238, UN 280, LG 300, Dawg 304
FF- Dun 223
Bally- Wiz 232, Rich 240, AAF 243
Pap- Dun 285

No vote: Kash, Bally


The only other person I would think about voting for is Bally. But might as well just seal the deal on Dun. Pretty sure it's been covered why he is suspected by me...

I vote to lynch Dun

 

[jpappy789]

My reasoning is there but it does seem fairly obvious at this point that Dun is scummy. I figured I didn't have to state the obvious again. Even though I did in my last post.

I meant in regards to Wiz.

absolutely!

hahaha... you forget... i didn't ask all the questions... i just answered them...
"clearing up the confusion" by answering questions have done no good up until now... only caused more questions. what do i have to go on that would suggest that would change now?

then why would scum even post in the thread at all? seems ridiculous you'd say communications in the thread wouldn't help scum when you're quick to point out players who are not being "useful". huge contradiction, don't you think?

if i knew without a doubt you were innocent, i'd definitely count on it. unfortunately, i don't have that liberty.

There is no reason scum would communicate WITH EACH OTHER in the game thread.

What does people not being useful have anything to do with that?

 

[Ballyhoo]

...
This post stuck out to me because Rich seemed to know right off the bat who the hit was, while seemingly the rest of the town was in confusion about if it was a frosty or Grinch hit....

... That doesn't match up at all with what you originally said. At first Rich was the only one who knew and now Rich just posted really quickly. You seem to be changing the story quite a bit...

My original post, no where does it say that he was the only one who know. He just posted first then there was a discussion of thoughts on who sent in the hit.

 

[dundadundun]

I meant in regards to Wiz.



There is no reason scum would communicate WITH EACH OTHER in the game thread.

What does people not being useful have anything to do with that?

don't you think it's obvious, that if scum never posted "helpful" posts in the thread, everyone would always know who the scum is? also... if they never communicated with EACH OTHER in the thread, it would always be those players distancing themselves that were obvious scum. being you've been noted as one person that's capable of pulling that off, i assume you're definitely one that understands this.

 

[jpappy789]

My original post, no where does it say that he was the only one who know. He just posted first then there was a discussion of thoughts on who sent in the hit.

If Rich wasn't the only one who knew then how could the "rest of the town" be confused?

 

[jpappy789]

don't you think it's obvious, that if scum never posted "helpful" posts in the thread, everyone would always know who the scum is? also... if they never communicated with EACH OTHER in the thread, it would always be those players distancing themselves that were obvious scum. being you've been noted as one person that's capable of pulling that off, i assume you're definitely one that understands this.

Posting to appear to help the town is totally different then secretly posting to one another in the thread. They don't do that because they communicate outside the thread.

 

[dundadundun]

Posting to appear to help the town is totally different then secretly posting to one another in the thread. They don't do that because they communicate outside the thread.

says who? why "they" and not "we" or "I"?

 

[Ballyhoo]

If Rich wasn't the only one who knew then how could the "rest of the town" be confused?

At the time I read it he seemed to be the only one who knew, in hindsight he wasn't but at that moment I viewed it as he was.
I'm not saying that at this moment, 6:40pm on December 20th, he was the only one who knew.

 

[dundadundun]

when i'm posting particularly about your gameplay, there's no reason to distance yourself from that.

 

[dirtydawg10]

I meant in regards to Wiz.

OK...Misunderstood the question. I went back after nightfall to look at the posting and mostly because of the posts below I could see Wiz leaning scummy. I didn't like his responses to the questioning either. I haven't seen anything from him regarding my most recent questioning of him either. I don't like his voter/votee theory.

Wiz can you explain what was so interesting to you about this? I see no explanation and didn't see it as very interesting myself.


Now this I found a bit more interesting. JPap feeling the need to defend himself because Wiz found his vote interesting.


This is also interesting. UN is on your list but you're not sure why?




Wiz, UN voted to lynch Dun and then two minutes later you voted to tie up the vote with 2H. Do you find that interesting?

What I found interesting is that we had a three way tie that recurred with the same three candidates. As it was happening it seemed to me that someone wanted those three tied for some reason. Could I have been reading too much into it? Probably, I had stated my ead was fuzzy and I wasn't thinking too clearly.

Nice of you to pull this out of the middle of a conversation (out of context to be exact). When the answer to your question is in the conversation you pulled it out of. See post 114. I know that you read it or you wouldn't have found this post.

UN voted Dun as I was typing my vote. I had no way of knowing that he was doing so.

Thanks for the explanation. So you think you were reading too much into it. I would have to agree. Not sure scum would benefit from voting like that. They typically benefit from voting one person out. That's why I questioned it. It seemed more to me like you were making a bigger deal out of it as a way to begin pointing fingers.

I did read post 114 originally and wasn't sure what you were trying to say there. I reread it a couple times and see you were planning to vote for the voter or the votee based on your theory above? Correct me if I'm wrong. This doesn't seem to make a whole lot of sense either. Did you think the voting was scummy or the "being voted for" was scummy? I'm not liking the logic and it seems to me more like fingerpointing to see who might jump on if you mention some names.

Thanks...I was just trying to show why your theory may have some holes in it.