Mafia #99: The ACville Files- Game Thread

[IceH2O]

I'll be back at 9

 

[the wizard]

You mind answering a question for me,you might have overlooked?

If Zaffy was s cum why tie it between me and FF when he could have voted you for a tie with me and sent one of us home instead especially when it looked like FF would UD anyway?

Ice, this was discussed earlier. The issue I have with my decision tonight is, I can see a scum Zaffy voting FF because it would be a safe vote even if it was the kill vote and FF flipped town

 

[the wizard]

Kash - Dawg(438) Noods(508) Ice(512) Zaff(533)
Dun - Dawg(328) JB(386)
Dawg -AAF(485)
Zaff -Kashta (525

I think this is right

 

[Kashta]

why would it matter who he was the tying vote on be it me you or FF, still got an innocent killed,still would be looked at.

Okay. I just don't think he'd view all three innocents equally. As scum, I'd expect him to shie away from us. Unless he wanted to make a particularly bold move. The problem trying to analyze his action indepth is we don't know whether it really was a quick move without fully digesting the thread first or if it's just supposed to appear that way.

Zaffy says he misunderstood the vote count. That may be true because Pappy had me listed twice. I think if he even skimmed through the posts long enough to see that before making his vote, it's kinda hard for him to have completely missed all the other posts with that vote count where we joked about there being two of me, me correcting Pappy's vote count, him responding, Wizard commenting, and so on. So I'm inclined not to believe him.

 

[noodles62]

Kash - Dawg(438) Noods(508) Ice(512) Zaff(533)
Dun - Dawg(328) JB(386)
Dawg -AAF(485)
Zaff -Kashta (525

I think this is right

Thanks Wiz, but you have Dawg listed twice. I have that he retracted his vote on Dun. Everything else looks the same as I have.

 

[Dangerdoll]

ok, I haven't read all posts but I do want to give input for what I did read. I know I said I was going back to see the discussion between Kash and Wiz and Dawg a little more and I will but I want to at least get these thoughts out. It looks to me though that they are basically in here anyway.

I am off today so I will be on and off the thread.

I didn't miss anything, except I did mean to do a g/o g/o for your dog. I have been working 12 to 14 hour days lately and if you check the time stamps on my posts you will see I too have been on late and intelligent or not, I do attempt to make some kind of input instead of excuses why I can't be on.

I could be wrong (not likely) but, it seems to me that if you have time to post you have time to try to help the town no matter how feeble an attempt. If you are in fact innocent that is.

I am sorry wiz that you are working so hard, my job seems impossible too. Add to that trying to keep a household in order with 4 big dogs and one needing constant looking after. If everyone would like to know the deal, I came home from work last week to a bleeding swelling on his leg that was the size of a softball. He is just a year old and I was panicked. Rushed him to the emergency vet and they gave me antibiotics to last him the night until I could get him to my regular vet. I brought him the next day to my regular vet and they took him in immediately for surgery. They cut the tumor (for lack of a better word) and sent it out for biopsy. We should find out the results this week. He is just a year old so monitoring him with a bandage on is front elbow is a bit difficult. We are constantly pulling it up over what is now a stitched area with a stent for drainage. I am bringing him into the vet daily to get the bandage replaced, possible lazering whatever... she didn't really say as she does it... so that is where I am at. The good thing is she said that because of his age, the likelihood off it being cancer is little but we are still incredibly worried.
Now my thoughts:

In general, There are so many unknowns to the equation. Kashta didn't completely change her view of me but after rereading said she saw what I was saying she missed. I don't know for sure how I feel about that. It could be legitimate or it could have been the scum team saying she wasn't getting anywhere with me and to extricate herself from the exchange. I have never been able to read her scum or innocent so at this point all I can do is watch.

I said I was willing to give Dun a chance to get caught up and post with a clear head and it does appear that he is trying now.

Still hoping AAF can learn from our exchange yesterday morning and apply it to his game play so that he asks pointed questions so as to be more helpful for the town and a better player.

Zaffy I am still on the fence about. with his flippant attitude it is difficult to read him but could push him off the fence to the scum side easier that the town side.

Dawg is almost impossible to read. I need to rely more on gut feel with him than anything. I have been right about him with my initial feel the past couple of games but am not getting a feel either way at this point.

As much as I like to get into it with LR there just isn't enough for me to make a decision yet.

Suspecting JB is a given, but he appears to be helping the town at this point.

Noods and DD are in the same category for me. With their lack of input and participation I am smelling something fishy in Denmark and it aint the tuna.

What sucks is we are coming to the third night fall tonight and with the lack of content the past two game days there just doesn't seem to be enough to make a good firm decision on alignments.

I am not used to Kash being led around from advice of other folks but it sure seems to me like someone told her to chill out a bit... or it could be distancing because I am leery of trusting you at this point too. Every time I think I am trusting anyone over anyone else, someone points something else out. I just know that from the beginning, Kash has seemed a little off and when I said so, she went all bat-crap out on me.... so you would be lower on my list than her.

These are my thoughts too. That is why I do not want to vote for either one tonight. It would just be a guess at which one is scum and I am not very good at guessing correctly.

I don't get this, Noods. Maybe it's because I do not really feel one way or the other about Zaffy so far other than suspecting him because he hasn't been as visible as I am used to him being. That could be something in and of itself but I haven't seen any reasons for anyone voting him yet... anything of substance I should say. Admittingly though, I haven't read thoroughly enough and since I see that we have until 10, I will follow up to see what I am missing.

This doesn't make sense, Noods. If you truly believe one is scum and the other is innocent you should at least vote one or the other. Reveal one role gives you insight on the other, plain and simple. Now, if you believed we're both innocents butting heads, THAT's a reason to not vote either of us. But according to this post that isn't what you believe is true.

This posts suggests Noods may know which one of us is scum but instead of putting her name on a vote against me... she dodged it so no one would come back to her to explain herself for that vote later on. It also gives an excuse to NOT vote her teammate. And it contributes to the level of general confusion over this for the town.

Scummy strategy there, Noods.

I am nervous that I had this same thought as Kash when Kash was the first person I find scummy up to this point. Could it be a sly way to seem helpful, I dunno.

Since we have an extension until nightfall, I'm going to run some errands and thing more about my vote. In my head, I see two different scum teams. One has Kash on it, the other has Dawg. Noods would be on Dawg's team. Dun and AAF would be on Kash's team. DD could be on either, she's not taken a stance on way or the other.

Umm... I think my stance the entire game has been on you, Kash.

Speaking of DD, I hope her "little" pup is ok, but I would really like to hear from her. The last few games I have played with her, she has participated little and sometimes UD'd, regardless of her alignment. We cannot afford another UD and I would like to hear what she has to say.

I have not UD's for at least 2 games... come on, cut me some slack there, Noods.

I am not real sure where my vote will land yet. I still don't feel comfortable choosing between Dawg and Kashta. My vote could well land on Zaffy or DD at this point.

This is why I am having a rough time with you. Yoou say almost the same thing as Noods about Dawg and Kash and are willing to vote off to somewhere else. Again, I am not sure about the whole Zaffy issue but I will look back again to see what I am missing.

That makes good sense.

I retract my vote on Dawg and vote to send Zaffy to the looney bin.

I must be missing a lot... I have to read up so I can see the Zaffy thing... I am glad we got an extension tonight.


So there are my thoughts. I am teetering between Kash, Wiz, Dawg, and Noods.... I would say that's my order as well. I need to check back on Zaffy. My list may change after reading more.... so to be continued.

 

[noodles62]

I will not be around for nightfall or the cut off time. I am happy with where my vote is. Good luck townies!

 

[Kashta]

Umm... I think my stance the entire game has been on you, Kash.

That was Lab Rat's post; not mine.

And yes, you've based your entire game on one thing. A single first post from me where I said it looked like a great game and asked Noods what she named her new kitten.

Clearly, that was not a game-related post in any stretch of the imagination. How on earth does a post like that indicate anyone's role assignment? You're full of beans, DD.

 

[the wizard]

ok, I haven't read all posts but I do want to give input for what I did read. I know I said I was going back to see the discussion between Kash and Wiz and Dawg a little more and I will but I want to at least get these thoughts out. It looks to me though that they are basically in here anyway.
I am sorry wiz that you are working so hard, my job seems impossible too. Add to that trying to keep a household in order with 4 big dogs and one needing constant looking after. If everyone would like to know the deal, I came home from work last week to a bleeding swelling on his leg that was the size of a softball. He is just a year old and I was panicked. Rushed him to the emergency vet and they gave me antibiotics to last him the night until I could get him to my regular vet. I brought him the next day to my regular vet and they took him in immediately for surgery. They cut the tumor (for lack of a better word) and sent it out for biopsy. We should find out the results this week. He is just a year old so monitoring him with a bandage on is front elbow is a bit difficult. We are constantly pulling it up over what is now a stitched area with a stent for drainage. I am bringing him into the vet daily to get the bandage replaced, possible lazering whatever... she didn't really say as she does it... so that is where I am at. The good thing is she said that because of his age, the likelihood off it being cancer is little but we are still incredibly worried.
Now my thoughts:



I am not used to Kash being led around from advice of other folks but it sure seems to me like someone told her to chill out a bit... or it could be distancing because I am leery of trusting you at this point too. Every time I think I am trusting anyone over anyone else, someone points something else out. I just know that from the beginning, Kash has seemed a little off and when I said so, she went all bat-crap out on me.... so you would be lower on my list than her.


I don't get this, Noods. Maybe it's because I do not really feel one way or the other about Zaffy so far other than suspecting him because he hasn't been as visible as I am used to him being. That could be something in and of itself but I haven't seen any reasons for anyone voting him yet... anything of substance I should say. Admittingly though, I haven't read thoroughly enough and since I see that we have until 10, I will follow up to see what I am missing.

I am nervous that I had this same thought as Kash when Kash was the first person I find scummy up to this point. Could it be a sly way to seem helpful, I dunno.

Umm... I think my stance the entire game has been on you, Kash.

I have not UD's for at least 2 games... come on, cut me some slack there, Noods.


This is why I am having a rough time with you. Yoou say almost the same thing as Noods about Dawg and Kash and are willing to vote off to somewhere else. Again, I am not sure about the whole Zaffy issue but I will look back again to see what I am missing.


I must be missing a lot... I have to read up so I can see the Zaffy thing... I am glad we got an extension tonight.


So there are my thoughts. I am teetering between Kash, Wiz, Dawg, and Noods.... I would say that's my order as well. I need to check back on Zaffy. My list may change after reading more.... so to be continued.

So is your problem that I am willing to vote my best suspect instead of following the pack to picking between two I am unsure of? Or is it that you could be the one my vote falls on?

 

[dundadundun]

just catching up again. trying to get 3 kids down to bed as well, so we'll see how this goes. been trying to keep up with the goings on and make heads or tails of the whole dawg/kash thing and i'm totally clueless. i would like to know what definition of cantankerous kash is referring to in reference to me, though.

one thing that has caught my attention is 2 games back, JB vowed he was going to vote me in the next game. he missed the next game and this is his first chance. being that he's pretty much focused on me this game, i dunno how to take that.

so for now... i vote to lynch JB

on the top of my suspect list is AAF (why the heck would he defend me when i totally looked as if i wasn't contributing, let alone say i looked pro town... this somewhat irks me, but it is AAF, so knowing if that's a scum tell is a long stretch, IMO)
noods... i vaguely remember her being more helpful in days of old. since this is her first time back to the game it's hard to tell if she's just not interested or she's dripping with scum sauce and mopping up her tracks with ambiguity.
dawg/kash... this one's killing me. i can't tell heads for tails.