Mafia Game #4 The Play

[judgemax]

Ok, so again, Judgemax, it looks like you've dropped off the last 6 pages or so, since others being calling you a lurker again. I'm waiting to see the trail pick up. In fact, you're put in the same place as Coler, and I'm thinking this is the point in the game where the tide's about to turn...

actually, I had to take my son, to meet his dad, then I had to go help a friend with her fish tank,drop off a birthday present, pick up some new fry, then I looked at a bird, that I have been considering adopting..Not dropped off the face of the earth, just had to leave the computer a few, and wasn't leaving long enough, to take the laptop...

 

[NeonJulie]

I am at a loss as to who to vote for... my suspicions with julie, are there, but since I was wrong about pete, it makes me nervous to oust someone again, I have read, and re-read, But still, the few that are standing out to me, , are now only doing so, because they are aggressive players, rather than I feel they are guilty...

post some more stuff, so I have more to go on folks!
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I also wanted to say sorry to ogre, I missed the post about dd saying there was 5 mafia..so that explains your thinking there, i think.

Ok, well... again it's annoying you continue to drag my name in next to every post, without ever really giving any reasons, albeit, I give you the heeby jeebies? (Let's remember at this point, I haven't been active in more than a day, so rest assured it isn't because of any new fuel I've added to the fire. Are you still waxing about the roleplay deal? The thing that happened out of boredom? Complete mindless, but fun! banter? I hate to wonder what some cops would do if they came across regular people having a fun conversation... )

Ah yes, days after you hang Nola you admit you missed. You always say "there are a few" and yet you never put lists out, and you continue to drop my name the most! If I had a reason to be nervous, I might set a harassment complaint to the lead detective's "supervisor." *jk*

Oh, two mistakes in a row to oblige? You "misread" something on the famous interweb you're notoriously good at reading? Now, before people begin to suspect me for this... Judgemax has laid out a LARGE challenge. She claims she has left all the clues to the whole game in her posts, and I really do, want to figure out how she could have pulled this off, in two days. Very remarkable. (Because she says it's not PM spying, which is an inconsistent idea anyway.) But this is darn frustrating to me. There isn't any real facts here - this must be Judgemax trying to make it look like she's busy, when she's pretty much putting words out, but nothing there! People look guilty because they are busy, yet most of the people to show up on your list are definitely not the aggressive type as you mention, the outspoken people.

Rats, work interrupted me. *jk*

 

[NeonJulie]

Judgemax, I totally disagree with your statement to only list one mafia. Here's why. If everyone only lists one, then we have lost a big part of our power. We can't compare notes and come to a better decision.

Let's say that I think player A is mafia and player B is innocent. You think player B is mafia and player A is mafia, then the two of us are at an impasse. However, what if both suspect player C, but for different reasons, if we tell each other, then suddenly we have a better canidate for lynching.

We must tell each other our ideas about everyone.

Again a word from the former knowledge base...

 

[NeonJulie]

Ok, I see your reasoning, I am just afraid at this point, we are so screwed, that if we start jumping on everyone, who a dead person had posted, we are playing into their hands...and just lynching ourselves because we are so eager to find the mafia, instead of actually thinking things through...

I can see every ones point about corylover to, but If he is just playing badly, we lost another innocent, ..And I will deeply regret that..

Since everyone seems so sure about CL I will also vote to lynch corylover however, as I have stated, my vote is subject to change.

( judge max crosses her fingers in hopes that cory is actually mafia )

and ogre...whats with the mafia master under your name?..are you trying to tell us something?..is your name really don?..j/k

Whoah, is this a new tactic? 'The fear and trembling tactic that I'm overlooking facts? I don't know what to do, I'm so afraid we might be wrong again, and even though CL seems very much guilty as most people agree, and the mafia is going to kill us all,?' (Going back and reading this, I'm shocked I didn't notice before how long you held back about CL.)

In light of what comes later, would this be considered an act, so you are continually underestimated? Are you trying to put fear into the community?

Curious, but why do you continue to point to irrelevant facts? Like the avatar labels, and such, it's the second time you've done it in the game, and we all know, it's meaningless. If this was court, I'd object state relevance to the game at hand. Is it a joke? Do you believe Ogre at this point is the Don? Are you trying to draw something out of him? Are you trying to draw something out of the rest of us?

Is this like the second time you've pointed out that people need to think things through, or be serious, because we're headed for trouble? But really don't do that yourself? Have you already put your list together by now, and you are trying to prepare the mafia into a false sense of security, by making them think you're crouching in fear and that they've won or something, before you hit them with your suspicion??

The more I go back reading for clues, the more I find I don't understand anything at all about your play style, and it seems very NOT straight played, presents no facts - in fact, it presents NEGATIVE fact. You seem later, so much more intelligent then this - this has to be an act, or you have really wheeled people. And based on these posts... there's nothing of any real determinative value in these posts! Help me out here? Have I missed your clue by now?

The only names dropped so far have been Ogre, MadCrawdad, DD as a response to misreading, CL, because he's the word of the day by now, and me, nothing knew. Where are the clues that will lead me to everyone else who will later be found on the list?

I'm simply AMAZED someone can get so far in the community esteem/trust without presenting any real FACTS! And being wrong several times.

 

[NeonJulie]

my top three suspects are:
cory lover
madcrawdad
mee mee

Wow. Enlightening. (No offense.) *lol* I'm going to chalk this down to being busy (I hope), bored, following the crowd, or couldn't come up with anything to base his accusations on. Actually, that wasn't really enlightening either. *shrug*

 

[NeonJulie]

I am also suspecting mad, but my reasoning is because usually hes much more vocal ..(atleast from what I have read in the other games) So, taking in light that its a holiday weekend, I am nervous to make that assumption

Orgre-I dunno, I still think he throws votes out, and just like to be the head of the lynch train, and if he can, he will, hes fishing like the rest of us, my trouble here is, is he fishing in teh dark(innocent) or fishing in the day, (mafia)


I think mee-mee is very wishy washy, but is that her normal personality, ..or a coverup?..

not saying anything bad mee-mee, please do not take offense..

Wait... a list here was posted. So maybe you allowed Ogre to change your mind from posting one suspect, and the mafia leading a train away, or no one would vote off of another's list... heck I don't know anymore why you do or you say what you do.

You just keep repeating Ogre and MadCrawdad over, simply for the well used up by now, reason that they present long and drawn out thoughts. Have to be red herrings, if these are the clues, what are we to do with them.

Mee-Mee is mentioned... the beginnings of what would later be known as The List. She truly is what you say, wishy washy, and many of us have begun to suspect her as well. So are you throwing the rest of us a bone? Or is this the clue? Mee-mee's mafia? (We later all learn that.)

 

[judgemax]

Ok, well... again it's annoying you continue to drag my name in next to every post, without ever really giving any reasons, albeit, I give you the heeby jeebies? (Let's remember at this point, I haven't been active in more than a day, so rest assured it isn't because of any new fuel I've added to the fire. Are you still waxing about the roleplay deal? The thing that happened out of boredom? Complete mindless, but fun! banter? I hate to wonder what some cops would do if they came across regular people having a fun conversation... )and, you would be surprised how much, regular people having a fun conversation give away...

Ah yes, days after you hang Nola you admit you missed. You always say "there are a few" and yet you never put lists out, and you continue to drop my name the most! If I had a reason to be nervous, I might set a harassment complaint to the lead detective's "supervisor." *jk*I can let you alone, I just think its fun to rile you up, ...

Oh, two mistakes in a row to oblige? You "misread" something on the famous interweb you're notoriously good at reading? Now, before people begin to suspect me for this... Judgemax has laid out a LARGE challenge. She claims she has left all the clues to the whole game in her posts, and I really do, want to figure out how she could have pulled this off, in two days. Very remarkable. (Because she says it's not PM spying, which is an inconsistent idea anyway.) But this is darn frustrating to me. There isn't any real facts here - this must be Judgemax trying to make it look like she's busy, when she's pretty much putting words out, but nothing there! People look guilty because they are busy, yet most of the people to show up on your list are definitely not the aggressive type as you mention, the outspoken people.why would I care if I appear busy?.I am busy, on a good day, and on a bad one, i am in over my head...You are starting to confuse me, ..and then, with both julies confused, where would the town be?....

Rats, work interrupted me. *jk*

Julie, you crack me up, I haven't left clues to the whole game, never implied leaving clues to the whole game..just clues..I also never implied that I did not search pms, just that I hadn't gotten, or sent any, and I am still saying your name, cause its my name to, and its always fun, to repeatedly say your own name to some one else...Maybe thats just me, And, you are still, a little to far back..But I must admit, you would be a good text analyst, and If I ever need one, I will be calling you!...And, my goodness, I make a mistake, and you still, haven't let me live that down, jeez, I hope I never have to make you a sandwich...I might forget something..AND i never said I was good at reading the web, just that its the best place to look for information, and evidence in alot of places..

 

[johnlarson66]

Hmm... I think the Club pact is broken. *jk* JohnLarson66 is now suspicious of BKW, instead of voting with him, but apparently is it just because he holds their gameplay in regard? Or was he following the same train of thought Zs was, and I having reviewed the alternate game play. (After this game, I confidently believe most everyone will be held in esteem, and the list will grow for some reason, instead of the same 5-6 to like 19. lol)

My list is of people I would INVESTIGATE and people I RESPECT.

In no way did I call these people and even think they are mafia. Can one or more of them be mafia, of course. Odds are atleast one of them are mafia. I too would add my name to the list.

As far as the whole join the club thing, it was in response to the being a "stick in the mud" and our dislike of the role playing.

I have also not agreed 100% with judgemax's list and we have yet to lynch anyone from her original list. I have stated before that the list is suspect, but I am willing to go along until she is wrong.

Another thing, Coler in game 1 was an innocent, Game 2 was mafia, Game 3 was the detective. So if he is not playing the way he was in games 2 and 3, what does that show?

I think Cory Lover and Mee-mee played very odd for mafia members and the choices in the mafia hits are odd also. I am not sure why they choose to hit judgemax at all. I am thinking the mafia is more confused that the town.

I think as a town we should somewhat agree on who we lynch. I think in some game modes you have to have a set number of votes to lynch. I think it is good for the town to see who is for the town or for themselves.

I want to atleast try judgemax's list. At one point she was willing to die for her votes. That means something. I am willing to follow until she is wrong.

I think as a town, it would not hurt us to rally behind judgemax until she is wrong.

 

[NeonJulie]

Well, I truly have no #3 and #2 is weak for me. I am leery of Mad, Ogre, Mee-Mee, and Max (aka Julie) but I think it's more of a case of nerves mixed with their post styles.

Hooked Newbie just hit on the fact that you're posting style has been... well, scary. Very true. I begin to wonder now, if you hadn't been so lucky with one hit on your list being correct, how anyone could have believed you. You are so fickle. You are so timid. You are so uninformative. You've been half wrong. When I left what I call clues, they looked more like... "gee I have SO much paperwork to do." and "the people never stop coming" and dropped hints like "do no harm" and words like "curing". (And even then not one person got it.) So I'm not sure if you realize how well these so-called clues go over...

Mee-mee's become the rage these days. It was bound to happen, with voting inconsistency.

 

[NeonJulie]

The more you post JM, the more I think you are mafia. I have made exactly two votes to lynch in two days. I have given excellent reasons for both... although I borrowed Mad's, but even you admit that mee-mee is acting weird. I wouldn't sweat it, she's not going to get lynched today... CL almost certainly will be.

The post just makes me think mafia. JM is reiterating what others (specifically me) have said previously and then adding me to her suspect list. That doesn't make a lot of sense... if you agree with what I say, then you should trust me to some degree.

If you think I'm jumping out front and taking charge... I'm trying to. That's how I play games. However, I've never said a single thing to help incriminate or defend CL. I have said that I don't think he's mafia. But since what I say about him doesn't matter at this point, I'll not belabor it.

Ogre's beginning to wonder why you keep bringing him up too, when he feels he's more than done his duty right by the town, and many of us agree. He points out too, that your playing style is simple regurgitation. That it doesn't make sense. That you claim to agree with him, then show no believe or trust in him. The town has definitely found it's hit by now, with MadCrawdad and Ogre leaning towards Mee-mee as a later would be candidate.