Magic Substrate?

AquaristDave

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Feb 8, 2006
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I heard someone say that they used a certain kind of sand along with a power fillter so that they never had to do water changes. The fish lived fine for years! So they claim.

I would like to know if there is such a substrate, or if this is really bad for the fish, and in this case the fish were hardy enough to survive.

hmm... It seems to me that there will always be a need for partial water changes because of the buildup of excess nitrates.
 
not just a certain sand, a whole filter. a fluidized bed filter. and they are good filters, but not that good
 
rediculous!! there are a variety of dissolved ORGANIC POLLUTANTS, substances such as proteins, amino acids, phenolic compounds, pheromones (hormones that affect the behavior of other fish) and other metabolic byproducts which are continuously being discharged into the aquarium water by the fish. If these DOCs are allowed to become concentrated in the water, the health of the fish will suffer. these can only be removed by water changes. no magic sand or anything else will remove these.

for example, laboratory studies have shown that high levels of DOC are associated with reduced fish feeding rates, slower growth, decreased reproduction rates, lower immune system activity and blooms of pathogenic bacteria in the water. it is now believed that many of the fish health problems thought to be the result of high nitrates are actually caused by DOCs.

in addition to those organic compounds noted above, inorganic byproducts of the nitrogen cycle in any aquatic environment also buildup in an your water. ammonia and nitrite are taken care of by your biofilter and converted to nitrate. this latter product can only be removed by dilution through water changes.

so while you may be thinking your fish are just fine, even without water changes, in fact they are not. the most obvious example, in the absence of outright disease and/or death is how long your fish live. many hobbyists simply replace fish after they die without a thought to how long that fish should have lived. goldfish can live for 30 years, however i'd be VERY surprised if anyone on this forum or elsewhere has been able to maintain a GF for more than 5-7 years. have you kept mollies for 5 years? a red tail shark or other cyprinids for 10 years? Characoids (tetras) such as Neons, Cardinals, Bloodfins and Rummy Nose Tetras, Glassfish and Hatchet fish for 10 years? corydoras for 8 years? if not, i suggest to you that you need to improve your tank maintainance including water changes.
 
Wow, I never new about all that DOC stuff in the water. It makes me want too change my water more often and use better filtration. I find it surprising that fish really do live that long. Of course, most aquarists would. I'm new to aquariums (about 6 months now), and I have had 3 adult angel fish, 1 clam, at least a dozen neons, 1 albino corydoras catfish, 1 upside down cat, and 1 beta all die. It was probably due to the lack of good water quality, and me purchasing fish from dealer's who don't give a rat's backside about the health of the fish (i.e. Wal-mart)

I am a student of biology, and I hold a high value for life, so I am a bit ashamed of this record. I've been reading a lot about purchasing bred fish for better health vs. wild caught fish, but I am having trouble finding a suitable dealer.

So what is a fluidized bed filter anyway?
 
Nobody with any real knowledge of captive aquatic environments ever said that nitrate is the primary pollutant. Nitrate is just the pollutant we can measure most easily, and in a fish-only tank is an excellent indicator of general pollution levels - in other words, if nitrate is high, so are all the other pollutants (for which we cannot test) likely to be high. So we use nitrate in FO as an easy scale for judgement on the need for water partials in unplanted tanks. Nitrate is generally worthless as an indicator of pollution in planted tanks.

There is no such thing as a magic substrate which makes water partials history. There are techniques for heavily planted tanks (Diana Waldstad and others) which minimize water changes, but they are debatable.
 
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I've seen in the fish store a pruoduct that clais it can keep your aquarium water for six months without the need for a water change. In fact, I've seen tanks with years of no mainteinance keeping fish alive.

But in the long run you'll find out the being alive and healthy are not the same thing.
 
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