Marine Discussion: 90g FOWLR (first SW tank) journal

macphoto said:
I went with an expensive Eclipse 12 gallon acrylic tank because, as before, I figured a 15g tall (a whopping $38 at my LFS!), plus cost of drilling 2 holes ($50), and a cheap light ($10) would put me in the same ballpark as this $90 Eclipse.
So you drilled holes in the side of the refugium (the Eclipse) so you could run intake from the refugium into the sump?

Peace...
 
It looks very nice!

The magaflow box is a headache of aquascaping. It seems the bottom inlet of the magaflow box is blocked by rocks. Is there any potential problem?

I also have a noob question: Why don't you place live rock after your tank is cycled?


Albert
 
If you add rock after the tank is cycled, it could start another mini cycle, as any of the dead stuff on the rock would cause a nitrate spike. Usually you add rock to help the cycle along. The only time you would add rock after a cycle, is if it's fully cured.
 
tomdkat said:
So you drilled holes in the side of the refugium (the Eclipse) so you could run intake from the refugium into the sump?
If I understand your question correctly, yes. The refugium is supplied via a tee/ball valve on the line from the return pump (so a little bit of the flow from the sump to the main tank is diverted to the refugium). The refugium then gravity drains (through those two holes) back into the return section of the sump.

--Mike
 
lbear said:
It looks very nice!
Thanks!

The magaflow box is a headache of aquascaping. It seems the bottom inlet of the magaflow box is blocked by rocks. Is there any potential problem?
I don't think so... I can look through rocks and see some of the bottom intake slots. Plus, any rocks that are directly in front of the intake don't totally seal it off. If anything, I think it will provide a nice little flow through this area of rock.

--Mike
 
macphoto said:
If I understand your question correctly, yes. The refugium is supplied via a tee/ball valve on the line from the return pump (so a little bit of the flow from the sump to the main tank is diverted to the refugium). The refugium then gravity drains (through those two holes) back into the return section of the sump.
Yep, you understood me. This is the first time I've seen a sump "assembled", let alone refugium so I'm trying to get my head wrapped around what's going on. :)

Peace...
 
tomdkat said:
Yep, you understood me. This is the first time I've seen a sump "assembled", let alone refugium so I'm trying to get my head wrapped around what's going on.
Well, keep in mind that this is not necessarily the "normal" way to do it. From what I can tell, it's far more common (and simpler) to incorporate the refugium as part of the sump, rather than have it as a separate standalone tank like mine is. Some people like to have the refugium in a visible location, which would necessitate a separate tank. In my case, I did it this way for the sake of being able to fit a freshwater storage tank in the stand while having as much sump/refugium capacity as possible. But without the freshwater storage tank, I could have fit a 40 breeder in there (it would have stuck out of the back of the stand a bit, but it would fit).

--Mike
 
I think those fanworm guys are feather dusters.. They will probably come out further at night...

I consider you lucky to get live rock at $6.00/lbs, up in Kingston, Canada we pay $10.00/lbs at our LFS, and if we get to Ottawa at all (3 hours away) we will still pay around $8.00/lbs..
 
Now it gets fun, with more than just bacteria in the tank.

I got a similar kit from IPSF a few years ago, and it was fine. I'll agree with the "I paid $99 for this" sentiment, but the amphipods and "strombus" snails (actually columbellids) are keepers. Don't worry about snail overpopulation. There will always be some cruising around, but it's not like FW pond snails.

Good luck with the gracilaria. I have tried several times, and it has never taken off in my fuges. It may be that my green macros, like ulva and chaeto, out compete it, or maybe I didn't give it enough circulation to keep it in motion.
 
macphoto said:
I had a meeting with a potential bride in the city today, so I stopped by the LFS (the one from which I bought the tank), and ended up taking home this really nice looking Florida aquacultured rock...

I am looking forward to see the latest pictures of your tank. Any update?

How many lb of liverock in your display tank and refugium now?

I am thinking of getting some hirocks, either 30 lbs or 60 lbs. What's the approximate size of each piece of hirock you've got?


Albert
 
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