That my friends is a cute and funny vid.!! Keep doing what you do Jetajockey! You know you are right and that's all you need to know!
Mildly controversial topic, prestressing fish for shipping
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LOL! The video was really cute. Your fishroom looks great, btw 
I know they're probably incompatible, but I would love to have some black cories to hang with my black moors...I have quilted Mels in with them (who don't mind a heaterless tank) but they really miss A LOT of food, because they can't get their little piggy faces into the crevices between decorations!
I know they're probably incompatible, but I would love to have some black cories to hang with my black moors...I have quilted Mels in with them (who don't mind a heaterless tank) but they really miss A LOT of food, because they can't get their little piggy faces into the crevices between decorations!
Do you know what the toxin is that they release, btw? Is it something that can be tested for? You probably can't tell for sure when they've released it since I'm sure it's odorless and colorless...
i see no issue with this. if it makes the little guys safer to ship and reduces their stress levels and possible fatality during transit then go ahead. as said, im sure they dont see any difference between a puppet against the glass and a net chasing them around the tank. both must be incredibly stressful but its shortlived. i love the black cories, my local aquatics place sells them. been tempted so often but they simply wouldnt show up against my black gravel :irked:
lol, nice video! I'm sure that in the 'wild' these fish would be put in much more stressful situations, i bet that toxin is there to make other fish not eat them, and in a large pond it would work well. Shame on anyone who thinks that stressing a fish out to keep it alive is bad, yes stress isn't awesome, but its better then death IMO
I put them in a dip and pour, smack the crap out of the sides and then change the water a few minutes later....repeat. The glove is a joke people. The thing is, these fish can and often will die in transit if not properly packaged. Although it seems harsh, this is the correct way to package them. Cories (especially the ones with the orange pectorals it seems) can die from the fish store to home if not bagged properly or from the tank to the fishstore. This is the correct method to ensure their safety.
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I, personally would rather have my fish be stressed 1 time, than die a much more cruel and lingering death.
Agreed with what everyone else has said. Congrats Jetajockey for keeping some great fish breeding, alive and healthy!
If you think that this video is wrong, seriously think about it. This was supposed to be funny with the glove. If this ensures you a healthy specimen, then I'm all for it.
If you think that this video is wrong, seriously think about it. This was supposed to be funny with the glove. If this ensures you a healthy specimen, then I'm all for it.
As a breeder of sterbai cories, sterbai are known to release a toxin from behind their gills when stressed, therefore commiting suicide and taking the rest of the fish in the bag or container to heaven along with them. I had to do a little research on this before I shipped my baby cories. I used a method called "kick the bucket". Before shipping, I'll catch the cories 1st, and kick the bucket every time I pass it. They will release toxins into the water, which you can actually see at the top. It appears as a clear, foamy looking substance at the top. They release most of it into the bucket, so then you change the water, and bag them up. They'll still have some left during shipping, but it is estimated to be less then 20%.
From what I've read, the species that have the most toxins are Sterbai (Sterbai is considered the worst), Arcuatus, Adolfoi, Haroldschwartzi, Burgessi and possibly Robustus. I think if you can ship them while they are still small there is much less chance of the poisoning happening. I shipped many, many small sterbai (approximately 8 weeks old) all across the country without issue. Until I shipped a batch of larger sterbai....which released the toxins and arrived DOA. Shipping fish is stressful enough for me, after this happened I stopped breeding the sterbai. Maybe try the "kick the bucket" method.
Have you found any reference to this happening to black cories from anyone else? I have a group of 10 that I was hoping to breed. I think they are not quite 2 years old. But if they do the same thing for shipping, I'll not be selling any young ones. Redkahuna would be a good one to ask, he has shipped a gazillion cories.
From what I've read, the species that have the most toxins are Sterbai (Sterbai is considered the worst), Arcuatus, Adolfoi, Haroldschwartzi, Burgessi and possibly Robustus. I think if you can ship them while they are still small there is much less chance of the poisoning happening. I shipped many, many small sterbai (approximately 8 weeks old) all across the country without issue. Until I shipped a batch of larger sterbai....which released the toxins and arrived DOA. Shipping fish is stressful enough for me, after this happened I stopped breeding the sterbai. Maybe try the "kick the bucket" method.
Have you found any reference to this happening to black cories from anyone else? I have a group of 10 that I was hoping to breed. I think they are not quite 2 years old. But if they do the same thing for shipping, I'll not be selling any young ones. Redkahuna would be a good one to ask, he has shipped a gazillion cories.
