more legislation that will undoubtedly affect our community...

50 years ago your position would have made a lot of sense. At this point the species in question are firmly established. If FL wanted to ban the introduction of additional species of exotics that would make sense, but penalizing a citizen for keeping what might as well be a native species makes no sense given the current situation.

exactly... there'll come a time when Fl needs (or wants) to create revenue once the legal specimens have all but been wiped out of other states and these "pets" will probably command a high dollar and only (legally) b available through trappers and re-sellers from florida. at that point, floridas stance on the whole situation, i'm sure will be a complete 180 in favor of their new found monopoly on the legal export of these animals.

not to mention the current way of handling these snakes in Fl is more of one that would preserve their standings in the wild rather than obliterate it. we've all seen the shows. they catch them, bag them tag them, then keep them. when the facility is blown over by the next hurricane, where are they going? not to mention, i believe there's an established hunting season for them. for those that don't know, hunting seasons are typically to control populations so they don't get out of hand and become a detriment to their own numbers. hunting seasons are designed to keep the highest population of a wild species healthy as possible without over populating and wiping out the whole population through the rampant spread of disease and lack of resources, starvation, etc..

i believe not only is this legislation ignorant to the truth, but it has a very narrow list of possible outcomes all leading to shutting down the reptile/herp/snake industry everywhere and forcing Fl to re-open it as an exclusive export trade to the rest of the country.

the sad part is many hard working, respectable individuals that care for their animals are going to lose revenue including some that might just be put on the street. instead we're paying (out of our taxes, not free will mind you) more chair and pc wielding bureaucrats who are useless without a pencil and a mouse much more money than any of these hard working individuals and deserve less to sit down, make bills on false statistics and their free will, misunderstandings and irrational fears and push them on the unsuspecting masses under false circumstances. so now that we've all already paid to fight for this ridiculous, retarded bill that was written without a factual or intelligent effort to find the truth or an alternative with less negative impact on so many people, those of us who oppose it are repaid with a long, expensive taxing struggle to get nowhere. those of us who don't oppose it on the other hand, aren't repaid with anything useful... but you guys do get to pay for more enforcement officers and whole new divisions in some counties/states to look over the situation a little more strongly.

one would think all this time, effort and money could be spent wiser on a program to educate the citizens living close enough to the problem and put together a program to remove the animals from the problem area... maybe even pass legislation where zones are created and licenses are issued for exotic animal ownership.

heck, even though, i'd probably never wear them, i'd pay for a pair of snakeskin boots if i knew the revenue was going back to support cleanup efforts. i think that's a good idea, too... products. if the gov't would give out grants to get businesses started that made and sold snakeskin products, it would create jobs instead of disband them. creating revenue is important. it's incentive that'll keep this country going. the money we have now only goes around so fast.
 
I would think a post to FB would work....everyone knows if it is on FB it HAS to be true!:grinyes:

:laugh: devious!
 
I am glad that I found this. I am a supporter of all animal owners rights. Including those who want to keep large cats. I personally believe that the whole issue with Florida is a Florida problem. I grew up in Louisiana and really do not see how (barring strange circumstances) that any of these large snakes can survive a winter due to their heat requirements. It worries me that our government has become PETA and H$U$ puppets in the War on Pet Ownership. Here is a petition to battle the current Python Ban
HTML:
https://wwws.whitehouse.gov/petitions/!/petition/overturn-python-ban/4wGFbc4Y#thank-you=p
This has been posted on faunaclassifieds and cornsnakes.com. We are trying to get 25,000 signatures, right now we only have 2,112.

Dundadundun, I agree with everything you have said in this thread.
 
signed and forwarded, thank you.
 
excellent vid! anyone who's followed from the onset knows that every word uttered was 100% on point. i can't wait to see how things go when small reptile, amphibian and fish keepers realize they're next.if the everglades are going to be the basis of federal law making on invasive species, here's a short list of what's definitely coming up... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_invasive_species_in_the_Evergladesif florida is going to be the basis, here's a slightly longer list... http://www.invasive.org/species/list.cfm?id=77if the focus is anything like the timeline suggests, all non-indigenous animals will be outlawed and the lacey act will be turned over. anyone who's been a member on this site as long as i have should remember getting mass admin pm's about fighting for your rights to own your pets. the bill that was up for petition at the time was indeed focused on criminalizing ownership/transport/exchanging ownership of any non-indigenous wildlife regardless of species until each specie was investigated and found to be of no threat and put on a "safe list". to me this is just a ploy and a place to start to get the ball rolling. if you start where you'll get the least resistance, you can minimize your resistance more and more until you virtually have none. by starting with snakes... especially big ones... they eliminate most of the pet owners and slowly whittle away at the opposition.
 
well, that post went to crap, somehow. i hope they get the bugs worked out soon.
 
i know how to fixit, we have to tag a bill on that bans the keeping of cats. people love cats and will shoot the bill down.
 
We should take a lesson from the movement to ban firearm ownership. The tactics of incrementalism being used are exactly the same.
 
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