My 72gal bowfront is only 62gal! where did the 10gal go??!!

excuzzzeme said:
I have to say that you are certainly all making a mountain out of a molehill and trying to compare apples to oranges. Yes, outside measurements are often employed in the classification of a tank but so is the water level. When a 72 gallon tank is filled completely to the top, it will hold within a 5% tolerance the advertised gallons. The problem arises that we do not use 100% of the tank. Most often we use approximately 80% in a realistic application. Some people don't fill tank to the trim and are using even less. Add in substrate, decor, and fish, displacements are more pronounced. Example a 150 gallon tank may only hold 146 gallons (within 5% of advertised) and you actually use maybe 135-140 gallons!

Get a grip on reality!
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I AM CURIOUS TO YOUR REACTION COMMENT OPINION ON THIS LINK

http://www.bestfish.com/tips/052198.html

AND WONDERING HOW YOU CAME TO A 5% TOLERANCE LEVEL - IS THAT YOUR TOLERANCE LEVEL, OR THE GENERAL CONSUMER PUBLIC, OR THE ACTUAL PURCHASER, OR THE MANUFACTURER OR WHO?

& DID YOU MISS MY STATEMENT THAT MY TANK WAS BARE BARE BARE LIKE A NAKED BABE BABE BABE JUST AIR AIR AIR?

& I FILLED IT WITH 1GAL. JUGS TO THE BRIM? & THERE WAS NO SPEEDY EVAPORATION INTO THIN AIR WHILE FILLING?

HOW DOES ONE DO A REALITY CHECK IF YOU & THE OTHERS CONTINUE TO DISPUTE DOUBT MY FILLING UP MY TANK CAME UP SHORT OF 72 OR 71 OR 70 OR 69 OR 68 OR OR OR! MY REALITY IS 63!

I JUST FEEL A BIT DISAPPOINTED THAT MY 72 IS A 63. SORRY IF YOU FEEL YOU NEED TO INTERJECT YOUR OPINIONS & REPEAT WHAT CASH & FROGGY HAVE ALREADY STATED (GEE THEY BEAT YOU TO THE PUNCH - GRATED MINDS THINK ALIKE THEY SAY).

EXPERIENCE IS THE BEST TEACHER. THERE'S REALITY FOR YA! :uhoh:
 
psyche said:
Well, I filled my completely empty 3 gallon desktop tank to the very brim with 2.2 beaker-measured gallons of water. So I think misrepresentation goes from the small to the large tanks pretty routinely.
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ARE YOU SURE IT WAS COMPLETELY EMPTY? YOU SURE YOU DIDN'T HAVE ANY SUBSTRATE ORNAMENTS DRIFTWOOD ROCKS IN THE HEAD....!!!

YOU MUST HAVE POURED SOME ON THE OUTSIDE OF THE TANK OR POURED TOO FAST OR MIS-COUNTED OR YOUR BEAKER IS REALLY 2.9 OR YOUR 3GAL DESKTOP TANK MUST HAVE BEEN TILTED OR OR OR....

GEE PSYCHE - DO YOU THINK THE OTHERS WOULD DISPUTE DOUBT YOUR EXPERIENCE?? YOURS FALLS INTO THE 5% TOLERANCE LEVEL DON'T YOU AGREE?? YOU'RE A VERY TOLERANT PERSON RIGHT? YOU DON'T MIND YOU WERE SHORTCHANGED ABOUT 25% DO YA??

A LITTLE FAR-FETCH DON'T WE THINK?

http://www.bestfish.com/tips/052198.html

THIS LINK TELLS IT LIKE IT IS.

BUT YOU & I & BEABROCA & D_K JUST HAD AN OUT OF THIS WORLD OR OUT OF BODY EXPERIENCE!!??

:rofl: :y220e: ;) :iagree: :nilly: :hi:
 
Freezekougra said:
Well on the bright side, we know that we are doing a bigger % water change :D
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BIGGER % IS GREAT! NOW IF WE ALL CAN GET A BIGGER % RAISE ON SMALLER SALARY GALLONS!!

:lol2: :woot:
 
Sushiray, if you really want to have some fun, do some tests to calculate actual flow rates on some leading brand name aquarium filters and compare those results to the manufacturer's tank size ratings and advertised gph claims. These differences are very well known and are generally accepted throughout the retail industry. It may be a real pain for us sometimes and you may not be happy about it, but it still becomes a matter of consumer awareness.
 
Kashta said:
Sushiray, if you really want to have some fun, do some tests to calculate actual flow rates on some leading brand name aquarium filters and compare those results to the manufacturer's tank size ratings and advertised gph claims. These differences are very well known and are generally accepted throughout the retail industry. It may be a real pain for us sometimes and you may not be happy about it, but it still becomes a matter of consumer awareness.
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YEAH! SOMEONE ELSE SUGGESTED THAT! EVEN KNOWING THIS I'M STILL VERY SATISFIED WITH MY AC110'S & FLUVAL204 & SPONGE FILTER - DIDN'T BOTHER TO LOOK AT THEIR PERFORMANCE LEVELS OR BE CONCERNED.

IT'S THE SAME ANALOGY WITH GAS MILEAGE! I KNOW THE DIFFERENCES EXIST (WELL AS THEY SAY DUE TO DIFF. DRIVING HABITS ONE MAY NOT HAVE THE SAME EXPERIENCE AS STATED BY THE MFR) DOESN'T MEAN I'M FULLY SATISFIED WITH IT BUT HAVE TO LIVE WITH IT.

SAME GOES FOR MY 72GAL WANNABEE BOW FRONT TANK. I BOUGHT IT I HAVE TO ACCEPT IT FOR WHAT IT IS CUZ I HAVE TO LIVE WITH IT. BUT DOESN'T MEAN I'M A FULLY SATISFIED CONSUMER.

JUST LIKE I WOULDN'T WANT TO BUY MILK OR FORMULA FOR MY KIDS & FIND OUT EACH CONTAINER IS MISSING 10-15% OF PRODUCT, I HAVE TO STILL BUY IT & LIVE WITH IT - WOULDN'T YOU AGREE?

BUT HEY I'M NOT ON ANY CRUSADE ON EVERYTHING WRONG IN THIS WORLD! BUT WITH TANK VOLUME THAT TO GETS TO ME A BIT. THAT'S JUST ME!

SO BE IT AS IT MAY I WILL LIVE WITH IT, ENJOY IT AS MUCH AS I CAN & MOVE ON.

BUT WHEN PEOPLE IMPLY OR SUGGEST THAT I MAY HAVE NOT COUNTED CORRECTLY CUZ OF IMAGINARY SUBSTRATE & OTHER OBJECTS MUST HAVE BEEN IN THE TANK OR MY 1GAL JUG ISN'T REALLY 1GAL OR MAYBE I DID THROW IN 10 GAL W/O BEING CONSCIOUS THAT I DID OR OR OR.

OK - LET IT BE. QUE SERA SERA. "SAY GOODNITE GRACIE"

THKS ALL FOR THIS STIMULATING DIATRIBE!

http://www.bestfish.com/tips/052198.html

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I hate to be off topic...but can we please not type in all caps? It turns people off from posting again when it appears that they are being yelled at for no reason. Thanks.

As for the actual topic, I have to agree with Kashta. It's the industry standard and you sort of have to deal with it.
 
jpappy789 said:
I hate to be off topic...but can we please not type in all caps? It turns people off from posting again when it appears that they are being yelled at for no reason. Thanks.

As for the actual topic, I have to agree with Kashta. It's the industry standard and you sort of have to deal with it.
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sorry, thks for the feedback, didn't realize that's what it projects. not what's intended.
 
SMinNC said:
I was thinking someone was getting seriously tired of people saying they couldn't count. :)
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will start a new thread to continue this thought process. I am now using another empirical method of calculation in combo with actual physical experience.

see you later, thks to all again for your commentaries - even cash & froggy presenting doubts on one's actual experience. there's one in every crowd (in this case 2 who think alike but I suggest in the future to read exactly the person's issues & info/facts they provide b-4 adding your 5cents).

but Leah especially - that link was very insightful - tho the author didn't cite any specific examples - at least the acknowledgement that this exists industry wide & I was not making this all up.
 
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