my favorite pet store under fire?????

Just because the water is clear doesn't mean the water is clean. If he isn't vaccing I would guess that the tanks are FULL of planaria and probably have OTS. Although I must admit that only a dozen or so complaints within the last ten years is a pretty darn good track record and since the humane society did find no wrong doings obviously it can't be that bad.
 
I think it's based on someone's perception of what they think is all "icky"
Yeah, the store probably looked somewhat dirty, but you have all of those uptight people who never get their hands dirty and complain about it being a hideous shop.

Not saying I have anything against them, but seriously, you need to be educated enough to understand the difference between 'didn't vacuum the floor in a while' and 'neglect'.

It's just like calling 911 when someone has a controlled fire in their back yard. People have no clue what they're seeing, but they do it for the right reasons. They want to make sure the animals are okay.
 
I wish I had that kind of money to just throw around - make a statement with. Most people who really care about animals don't get huffy, they talk to the person in charge and really get to know what is going on. People who want a newspaper article written about them make a scene. Addressing reality is harder than dressing for work.
 
not trying to bash anyone but you cant go after all petshops that sell dogs just because a few in your area dont take care of their stock.


Prove me wrong! Take a picture of one/some of his tanks and where the dogs were, and I may agree with you. I just haven't seen any dogs kept in good conditions ever where I've been, always in a 3'x3' cage all day and kennels all night. And they're always wounded from bored, rough playing.

Oh, and did the pet store guy go and get the dogs and cat back? I'd be astonished to see one good, purebred sheltie for 250$, but two shelties and a cat? Something tells me they either weren't purebred or were sold to him very cheaply. My first sheltie, Jesse, had some problems with his testicles, so he was only 300$, but my second, Jasmine, was 500$ (the usual price I've seen for them).
 
OK You may all think I am wrong here but here goes.
Have you ever seen where these fish are pulled from. Most from murky silt laden ponds and rice paddies. I admit others come from clear water streams and beautiful lakes but there is still a load of crap passing by them everyday. Do you guys really think that crystal clear water is perfect? Perfect for you to see the fish but probably not perfect for the fish. I have fish in my shed that will do nothing breeding wise until the water is murky at best. Then they clean and clean a spot to lay. Just like in the wild. Come on guys most of the reasons we put so much time into our tanks is so we can see the pretty fishes.

Lighting is another thing. I do not have lights on all my tanks. I admit I am a bottom dweller fan so I believe not that much light can penetrate 20 feet of water. The fish are happy and content. The lighting again is for us and the plants.

So beat me up if you wish.
Just my thoughts sometimes we overthink things as the intelligent species on this planet.
 
What I can't believe is that she turned them over to the humane society! If she cared about them she would have kept them, at least until she could find them GOOD homes. The humane society will euthanize if they can't find a home in a certain amount of time, depending on the area. One by were I used to live was two weeks. The SPCA would be different; they only euthanize if there are behavioral problems. Either way, she obviously didn't care That much. Besides, if conditions were so bad, why not just let the police deal with it?
 
not trying to bash anyone but you cant go after all petshops that sell dogs just because a few in your area dont take care of their stock.

It's not that they are not cared for in the pet shop, though many are not, because if a pet store is willing to buy from a mill, they must not care.

I asked what his supplier is?
 
no doubt one of those noob types get their fist dog/cat/fish or whatever, learn a little bit about the maintenance and or care, then they make it their Divine right to haunt the local stores looking for anything they can complain about to "SHOW THEIR SUPERIOR KNOWLEDGE", they are easy to spot especially on the forums, They generally have settled on one breed of some pet, then they make the Brash statements covering all LPS while only seeing the actual problem at one or two stores, so now all Stores are culprits, and abusers etc etc etc.

Geez i have even seen a few ( on a particular forum based in Canada ) that seems have a large group of individuals ( Noob's ) that like to go into the LFS and bait the clerks into giving them wrong answers. Like one Guy goes in and gives the clerk a vial of water and asks if it is OK for fish. ( it was Tap Water ) of course the clerk was not told it was Tap water, just is it ok. AM=0 NO2=0 NO3=3 water is ok per the clerk, of course there was chlorine in it which would have killed the fish. So now the LFS is Black Balled by this group as unknowledgeable.
BTW this guy had been asked to leave this store several times prior to this by his own admission. People like this dont see as they are doing anything wrong doing this.
So now to him ALL stores in this chain are useless, and he has no problems telling anyone that will listen how bad they are, His only retort when you point out his errors in presenting is... so, Prove me wrong. Then complains to the moderator when he was proved wrong, poor baby was being picked on.

Point is you are gonna find those types everywhere, self righteous hypocrites.
 
OK You may all think I am wrong here but here goes.
Have you ever seen where these fish are pulled from. Most from murky silt laden ponds and rice paddies. I admit others come from clear water streams and beautiful lakes but there is still a load of crap passing by them everyday. Do you guys really think that crystal clear water is perfect? Perfect for you to see the fish but probably not perfect for the fish. I have fish in my shed that will do nothing breeding wise until the water is murky at best. Then they clean and clean a spot to lay. Just like in the wild. Come on guys most of the reasons we put so much time into our tanks is so we can see the pretty fishes.

Lighting is another thing. I do not have lights on all my tanks. I admit I am a bottom dweller fan so I believe not that much light can penetrate 20 feet of water. The fish are happy and content. The lighting again is for us and the plants.

So beat me up if you wish.
Just my thoughts sometimes we overthink things as the intelligent species on this planet.


My fish tend to die when the water gets murky. I doubt that's healthy. And very few fish come from "murky silt laden ponds and rice paddies".
 
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