first of all, jason, all of what you are doing is quite unnecesary, your being quite mean, i don't care at all, but im just saying, if you want to have a good side with most of these people on the forum, try stepping down the rudeness level a bit. And to all the rest, thanks a lot, blue2, im trying your method, bc i do have non sal talerant fish, and one more question, should i start adding the salt and stuff after the ick is off the fish???