n00b Question: Green Slime? (how to kill)

Thats definitely Cyano and i just got done(hopefully) with a 6 month battle with it in my 55. I tried every single method out there. I did several 1 week blackouts and dosed KN03 until i had 15ppm and it didnt help, so i slowly increased it to 30ppm and it got much worse. From my experiences with it im fairly certain that in some cases the only way to treat it is with an anti-biotic(maracyn). It just kept coming back no matter how many times i thought id gotten rid of it using traditional methods, and i even broke the tank down and swapped out all of the substrate to try and kill it, but it was back within a week. So after a long a fruitless battle i gave up and used medicine on my tank for the first time ever. I just got done with a 5 day treatment and i havent seen any at all. Im keeping my fingers crossed that this will work.

btw- The slime itself isnt the bacteria, its a form of protection that the bacteria uses as a shield and also uses to harvest energy. Basically, once you see the slime then its too late because that means that theres already a bacterial colony. Some people have gotten it in parts of their tank that doesnt have any flow and were able to remove it for good, but most of the time once it takes hold youll have to do something drastic like a long blackout or maracyn to actually kill it. Also, keep in mind that if you do use maracyn you need to clean out as much of it as possible and do a large water change before you start the treatment. Then once its begun make sure you get out all of the dead cyano asap so that it doesnt cause phosphate spikes in your water. Its a good idea to perform these steps when youre doing a blackout as well. Others have said that it wasnt necessary, but i did it just to be safe. Good luck man. I truly hope yours isnt as persistant as mine was.
 
Thank you all so much for the feedback! I don't think adding a filter will help as I already have an Eheim canister on the tank, just no bio media. I have had good results in the past using Excel to kill BBA in the past so I will try it for this as well and see if it helps. Next up would be the marycin. When I step up to the marycin does anyone know if that would kill my plants or Axolotl? How did I get this? None of my other tanks (300g, 125g, 120g, 45g) have it, should I be worried about it spreading to the other tanks?
 
Thank you all so much for the feedback! I don't think adding a filter will help as I already have an Eheim canister on the tank, just no bio media. I have had good results in the past using Excel to kill BBA in the past so I will try it for this as well and see if it helps. Next up would be the marycin. When I step up to the marycin does anyone know if that would kill my plants or Axolotl? How did I get this? None of my other tanks (300g, 125g, 120g, 45g) have it, should I be worried about it spreading to the other tanks?

This is a bacteria, not an algae. Excel wont do anything to it at all. Its already in your tank, so your only choice at this point is to kill it and remove every remaining dead bit. The only way to do that is a large blackout or maracyn. Id suggest doing a blackout according to my instructions above before you try maracyn since you have an Axolotl. I dont know if it will be affected negatively by the maracyn, but i do know that they react differently to medecines than most fish so id opt to stay on the safe side. If that doesnt work and you have to use maracyn it would probably be best to move him to a temporary holding tank for the three to five days that youll be dosing the main tank.

Cyano is literally everywhere. This type of bacteria has been found laying inertly in deserts that havent seen moisture for thousands of years. Its always around waiting for the right conditions to come out and establish a colony. You were probably having inconsistant nitrate levels which started the infection.
 
remove as much as you can.

trim your plants.

clean out any decaying material.

vac your gravel (if you can).

feed your plants. (especially N) 10-20 ppm or abouts for a target constant concentration.

make sure NOT TO LEAVE that stuff in your tank or filters because as it dies it will affect your water quality/02 concentration/etc. and can kill off your BB's and/or your inhabitants in the process. one of 2 reasons i don't suggest maracyn as a first resort. the other is the wide spread use of antibiotics in general.


the big things (to me) are keep your organic waste/matter to an absolute minimum and keep your plants in steady supply of no3.

cyano doesn't like current as it will lift it and blow it away. however... lack of current is not the issue. if it was, my 30 gal would still be covered in the stuff as it's filters are rated for 15 gallon tanks tops.

a couple info sources for ya...

http://www.aquariumalgae.blogspot.com/
http://theplantedtank.co.uk/algae.htm

although... i disagree with james that "a blackout is the best method". didn't work worth a squat for me. i actually had more after the blackout. ;)

tom's thread on dusko's article... http://www.barrreport.com/showthread.php/3008-Basic-algae-article-from-Dusko
 
Blackouts didnt do anything for me either. They actually started killing my plants after a while which just exacerbated the Cyano problem. Id still suggest them as a first resort though. Ill always suggest natural means of eradication before going to anti-biotics though. There are many different types of Cyano, and im pretty sure that some of them are more susceptible to lack of light than others. During my research i also found that some forms of Cyano are good at storing energy for long periods, and id be willing to bet that those are the forms that arent as affected by blackouts.
 
Even though you have an eheim on there...I bet you have some dead spots. Check it out. Blackout did nothing for me either. I agree with Dun about antibiotic use....but sometimes you gotta. If you do use abx....make sure you get out as much dead and loose stuff as you can with water chnages. But you need to know why or it will just happen again. Mine was filtration and flow. I tried blackout...not much improved. I moved things around figured out my flow issue...hit it with maracyn and have never had another issue.
 
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