Need help stocking 55 Gallon

Doitsu said:
nice tone...
Look, I gave the person a list of different Silver Dollar variants, plus the details, and cited that:

"The Metynnis argenteus is the one with the spots and the most common one found in the pet trade. I have two of those and one with no dots at all."

I also provided him with two links to Metynnis argenteus and one Metynnis hypsauchen that were available on line and you pull up some obscure link to a variant that grows too big for his tank?

and the link i gave was to the 12" Myleus rubripinnis,
Couldn't figure out why you would even do that since it's not readily available in the pet trade.

By the way, according to fishbase.org, that particular variant is known in the USA as Redhook metynnis or Redhook myleus or simply Redhook, not Silver Dollar.

sorry im in the school of thought that if a fish is capable of growing to 12"s (and all fish can reach and exceed their potential size as listed in a online profile) it should be kept in an enviroment allowing it, not one that will stunt it and thereby make it fit your tank...
I'm not even going to justify that with an answer.

Doitsu said:
i see Myleus rubripinnis constantly at petco, walmart and my LFS
Wonderful. Your local petcos and walmarts are selling imported wild Redhooks and they are labled as Silver Dollars?

Why don't you write them a letter and have the situation corrected?

Roan
 
I would go with at least more tiger barbs, very neat fish and they'll look much more striking in a larger school, plus be less likely to harrass whatever other fish you choose. I would not go with gouramis, in case they did find the little "tentacles" too tempting. I would also not go with the silver dollars for this reason:

These Characins should be kept in schools of five or more. Although they don't get overly large, Silver Dollars are quick fish that need their space. Provide an aquarium of no less than 35 gallons for a small school. The tank should be decorated with bogwood and plants, though plastic plants may be nessessary due to their herbivorous nature. Keep the light levels low; Silver Dollars fright easy and are generally shy fish.

I think 5 or more 6 inch fish in a 55g would be quite a bit. Throw in schooling fish that get pretty large themselves and I think it could border overstocking. JMO :D
 
nice tone, maybe you're so wildly bitter becuase you are keeping 6" fish in a 20 gallon as per your profile? "Wonderful. Your local petcos and walmarts are selling imported wild Redhooks and they are labled as Silver Dollars?" yes, in fact i've seen them as such in about 90% of fish stores ive visited in southern CT, they're not rare at all here.

i really dont feel like arguing with someone like you, the 2 posts of yours ive already had the misfortune of reading make water changes seem fun.
 
Holly9937 said:
These Characins should be kept in schools of five or more. Although they don't get overly large, Silver Dollars are quick fish that need their space. Provide an aquarium of no less than 35 gallons for a small school. The tank should be decorated with bogwood and plants, though plastic plants may be nessessary due to their herbivorous nature.
Nod, I'm moving my 3 to a 55 in a couple of weeks and adding 1 more.

Keep the light levels low; Silver Dollars fright easy and are generally shy fish.
An honest faux pas on my part, Holly. Good catch. I forgot to mention that. I don't find mine shy, but they *do* startle easily.

I think 5 or more 6 inch fish in a 55g would be quite a bit. Throw in schooling fish that get pretty large themselves and I think it could border overstocking. JMO :D
Well, yah, 5 or more 6 inches would be a wee tad too much :)

I figured he'd go 3 or 4 dollars and 6 barbs. You do have a point and I'm glad you mentioned it. I guess it will depend on what type of ratio he wants in the 55g. :)

Roan
 
Doitsu said:
nice tone, maybe you're so wildly bitter becuase you are keeping 6" fish in a 20 gallon as per your profile?
ROFL! Yer a hoot!

"Wonderful. Your local petcos and walmarts are selling imported wild Redhooks and they are labled as Silver Dollars?" yes, in fact i've seen them as such in about 90% of fish stores ive visited in southern CT, they're not rare at all here.
So do something about it.

i really dont feel like arguing with someone like you, the 2 posts of yours ive already had the misfortune of reading make water changes seem fun.
Good, cause your fish probably need you more than I need to see your responses :p

Roan
 
Tigers would never work in my tank, but I think they are really neat fish and if you are going to have them, I think they should be one of the main attractions :thm: !! Of course thats personal preference, but I do think there are probably better options than the dollars. I know I don't abide by all the lighting recommendations my fish need, but the fact that they are a bit skittish makes me wonder if they would be too much so with the barbs.

I think one or two larger size fish would be neat with a big school of tigers, but I can't really think of any that would fit the bill :cool:
 
Holly9937 said:
Tigers would never work in my tank, but I think they are really neat fish and if you are going to have them, I think they should be one of the main attractions :thm: !!
That's the only reason why we're keeping them. We got the 20g, barbs and dollars from the LFS -- first tank, of course. Dorks didn't even bother to tell us they REALLY needed a 55g. I found that out, myself, about a month ago. Boy, was I mad!

I took a strip off them in the shop and they were gonna take them back, but we decided to just buy them a bigger tank instead.

We're buying the dollars and barbs a 55g for Christmas :)

Of course thats personal preference, but I do think there are probably better options than the dollars. I know I don't abide by all the lighting recommendations my fish need, but the fact that they are a bit skittish makes me wonder if they would be too much so with the barbs.
To be honest, the only reason I think they are rather skittish right now is because they are so cramped and it's kinda hard to hide behind a plant when you are bigger than it is :) . Can't wait to get them into the bigger tank! They are going to love it :o

I think one or two larger size fish would be neat with a big school of tigers, but I can't really think of any that would fit the bill :cool:
Actually, do you have a reference that cites they are schooling fish? Now that I think of it, I don't recall really seeing one. Hrm.

Roan
 
The Tiger barb is a small, schooling fish that is popular among aquarists. The body is shaped in the usual barb fassion and is an orange color. Three large black bands run vertically on the body and fins. :laugh:

From the species profile on this site. However, I have to say I would disagree with some of the info. It says a minimum of 10g :eek: !! Maybe the tigers in my area are on steroids, b/c I have seen some really BIG ones. A school would not be very happy in a 10g!! Not only were they a good 2-3 inches, but they are FAT and pretty tall too
 
Holly9937 said:
The Tiger barb is a small, schooling fish that is popular among aquarists. The body is shaped in the usual barb fassion and is an orange color. Three large black bands run vertically on the body and fins. :laugh:
ROFL! Nah, I meant the dollars. I knew the barbs were schoolers.

From the species profile on this site. However, I have to say I would disagree with some of the info. It says a minimum of 10g :eek: !! Maybe the tigers in my area are on steroids, b/c I have seen some really BIG ones. A school would not be very happy in a 10g!! Not only were they a good 2-3 inches, but they are FAT and pretty tall too
Thus is the root of why I advocated dollars and barbs. The information on that fishy is all over the map on a lot of sites. I was going on them being 2" max, which is what I had read in the past. Mine haven't grown much in the time we've had them. I'd say one was 1½ and the other 2".

I did a broader search after your post and found anywhere from 2-3" max.

Interesting.

Roan
 
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